Where does the constitution give Congress power to set up national health care?

[JakeStarkey]

The proof of this is the fact that conservatives have offered nothing to replace the ACA to achieve the Act’s goals, satisfied to allow millions of Americans to continue to suffer without health insurance and the related skyrocketing costs that adversely effect us all.

That is not true.

Yup, it is true. We Republicans failed to offer a reasonable alternative from 1994 to 2006, while protecting and profiteering from pharma and insurance and medical industries.

 

[bravoactual]

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the UN-ACA was never supported by the American people
it was pushed by a president who said an individual-mandate was unnecessary
it was passed thru Congress on the promise that wasn't a tax
then in typically twisted logic the the SupremeCourt said it was both not a tax, and a tax
it was written by insurance and medical industry lobbyists

Dammit - you left out the biggest point. It's not among the listed powers of congress and hence it is unconstitutional. That's what this thread is all about.

As stated in the Preamble - "To Promote The General Welfare".

Medical is essential to the General Welfare.

You need to get over the FACT THAT YOU LOST.

 

[RKMBrown]

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the UN-ACA was never supported by the American people
it was pushed by a president who said an individual-mandate was unnecessary
it was passed thru Congress on the promise that wasn't a tax
then in typically twisted logic the the SupremeCourt said it was both not a tax, and a tax
it was written by insurance and medical industry lobbyists

Dammit - you left out the biggest point. It's not among the listed powers of congress and hence it is unconstitutional. That's what this thread is all about.

As stated in the Preamble - "To Promote The General Welfare".

Medical is essential to the General Welfare.

You need to get over the FACT THAT YOU LOST.

No you need to get over the fact that you lost the House and no matter how much money you and your kind steal from us, you and your kind will never amount to anything more than sloth.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

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Dammit - you left out the biggest point. It's not among the listed powers of congress and hence it is unconstitutional. That's what this thread is all about.

As stated in the Preamble - "To Promote The General Welfare".

Medical is essential to the General Welfare.

You need to get over the FACT THAT YOU LOST.

So produce your evidence. Prove to us that obozocare will in fact promote the general welfare. Millions of americans see it as just another scam to enrich the medical industry and make americans worse off. Again i say - show us your evidence.

 

[TooTall]

The proof of this is the fact that conservatives have offered nothing to replace the ACA to achieve the Act’s goals, satisfied to allow millions of Americans to continue to suffer without health insurance and the related skyrocketing costs that adversely effect us all.

That is not true.

Yup, it is true. We Republicans failed to offer a reasonable alternative from 1994 to 2006, while protecting and profiteering from pharma and insurance and medical industries.

You wouldn't make a pimple on a Republican's ass. Now, have someone that knows how to read explain what I posted and you chose to omit.

WASHINGTON — A large group of House conservatives unveiled legislation Wednesday providing expanded tax breaks for consumers who purchase their own insurance and increasing the government funding for high-risk pools, the Republicans' first comprehensive alternative to President Barack Obama's health care overhaul.

Under the proposal by the Republican Study Committee, individuals who purchase coverage approved for sale in their state could claim a deduction of $7,500 against their income and payroll taxes, regardless of the cost of the insurance. Families could deduct $20,000. House Republicans issue their own health care proposal

| The Leaf Chronicle -- Clarksville, Tenn., and Fort Campbell | theleafchronicle.com

 

[antique4xpu]

the constitution provides for the supreme court to decide on constitutional questions

thats the law

the supreme court ruled obama care did not violate the constitution

failing to agree with the high court is treason

 

[Snookie]

The proof of this is the fact that conservatives have offered nothing to replace the ACA to achieve the Act’s goals, satisfied to allow millions of Americans to continue to suffer without health insurance and the related skyrocketing costs that adversely effect us all.

Yup, it is true. We Republicans failed to offer a reasonable alternative from 1994 to 2006, while protecting and profiteering from pharma and insurance and medical industries.

You wouldn't make a pimple on a Republican's ass. Now, have someone that knows how to read explain what I posted and you chose to omit.

WASHINGTON — A large group of House conservatives unveiled legislation Wednesday providing expanded tax breaks for consumers who purchase their own insurance and increasing the government funding for high-risk pools, the Republicans' first comprehensive alternative to President Barack Obama's health care overhaul.

Under the proposal by the Republican Study Committee, individuals who purchase coverage approved for sale in their state could claim a deduction of $7,500 against their income and payroll taxes, regardless of the cost of the insurance. Families could deduct $20,000. House Republicans issue their own health care proposal

| The Leaf Chronicle -- Clarksville, Tenn., and Fort Campbell | theleafchronicle.com

Works great if you are rich.

What about the poor? Let em die?

 

[Steven_R]

the constitution provides for the supreme court to decide on constitutional questions

thats the law

the supreme court ruled obama care did not violate the constitution

failing to agree with the high court is treason

Actually, the Constitution is silent on the Supreme Court deciding cases on Constitutionality. The Supreme Court said it had that authority in Marbury v. Madison.

 

[AnonymousMD]

The constitution was written quite ambiguously so that it could be altered as time saw fit. Things would get way out of hand if the federal government let every state have its own healthcare laws. The ACA helps out thousands of Americans who can't afford their own healthcare and will ultimately make health expenses for those who can afford health insurance cheaper.

 

[Contumacious]

Where does the constitution give Congress power to set up national health care?

Is on page 69 of our NEW Constitution:

Why?

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[NoTeaPartyPleez]

It's not there and that means they don't have it - the states do. Obamacare is obviously unconstitutional as is 99% of what the feds do. The states need to grow a pair and scream about this.

There was no space program in 1776 either. No transcontinental train system. No electricity or power plants. No oil and gas industry. Shall I go on?

This is why Thomas Jefferson wrote: ""I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and constitutions, but laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. ........with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors.

 

[Snookie]

Conservatives don't know the difference between constipation and the constitution.

They learn by rote, not logic.

 

[Steven_R]

If only there was some way to amend the Constitution when it proves to be inadequate to the times. Nah, that'd never work. Let's just pretend the Constitution allows what we want it to allow.

 

[Contumacious]

There was no space program in 1776 either. No transcontinental train system. No electricity or power plants. No oil and gas industry. Shall I go on?

No, dildo, no need to go on.

The services you identified are supposed too be provided by PRIVATE ENTERPRISE.

Yo do not have a right to electric power UNLESS YOU PAY FOR IT.

I AM NOT REQUIRED TO PAY FOR YOU TO GET IT.

CAPISCE?

.

 

[RKMBrown]

Yup, it is true. We Republicans failed to offer a reasonable alternative from 1994 to 2006, while protecting and profiteering from pharma and insurance and medical industries.

You wouldn't make a pimple on a Republican's ass. Now, have someone that knows how to read explain what I posted and you chose to omit.

WASHINGTON — A large group of House conservatives unveiled legislation Wednesday providing expanded tax breaks for consumers who purchase their own insurance and increasing the government funding for high-risk pools, the Republicans' first comprehensive alternative to President Barack Obama's health care overhaul.

Under the proposal by the Republican Study Committee, individuals who purchase coverage approved for sale in their state could claim a deduction of $7,500 against their income and payroll taxes, regardless of the cost of the insurance. Families could deduct $20,000. House Republicans issue their own health care proposal

| The Leaf Chronicle -- Clarksville, Tenn., and Fort Campbell | theleafchronicle.com

Works great if you are rich.

What about the poor? Let em die?

The poor have medicaid. Why do you keep repeating this lie?

 

[regent]

There was no space program in 1776 either. No transcontinental train system. No electricity or power plants. No oil and gas industry. Shall I go on?

No, dildo, no need to go on.

The services you identified are supposed too be provided by PRIVATE ENTERPRISE.

Yo do not have a right to electric power UNLESS YOU PAY FOR IT.

I AM NOT REQUIRED TO PAY FOR YOU TO GET IT.

CAPISCE?

.

Do you have any idea how much money the American government put into building railroads, canals, roads, electric power, dams, and so forth? Private enterprise is great but some things it can't, won't, or shouldn't do.

 

[Snookie]

You wouldn't make a pimple on a Republican's ass. Now, have someone that knows how to read explain what I posted and you chose to omit.

WASHINGTON — A large group of House conservatives unveiled legislation Wednesday providing expanded tax breaks for consumers who purchase their own insurance and increasing the government funding for high-risk pools, the Republicans' first comprehensive alternative to President Barack Obama's health care overhaul.


| The Leaf Chronicle -- Clarksville, Tenn., and Fort Campbell | theleafchronicle.com

Works great if you are rich.

What about the poor? Let em die?

The poor have medicaid. Why do you keep repeating this lie?

40 milo lacko

Why you ignorant slut. Everybody who can not afford health care can get medicaid.

You must be below the poverty level. Most working people who are above thepoverty level can not afford the rip off premiums of the health care monopolies.

"The main requirement of Medicaid eligibility is determining that a low income situation exists in the home. Currently, the requirement states that the family’s income must be below the poverty level. The number of people living in the household is taken into consideration, and all forms of income are counted, including child and spousal support. In 2014, some states will increase their financial Medicaid eligibility requirements to 133% of the poverty level. Therefore, many people who did not previously qualify for Medicaid will find themselves eligible at that time."

 

[ShootSpeeders]

the constitution provides for the supreme court to decide on constitutional questions

thats the law

HAHAHAHA. You incredibly ignorant jackass. The constitution says NO SUCH THING!!! The constitution does not directly say who has the authority to decide the constitutionality of laws. So by the tenth amendment it would appear the states do.

you are a legal ignoramus and the board laughingstock!!!

 

[ShootSpeeders]

It's not there and that means they don't have it - the states do. Obamacare is obviously unconstitutional as is 99% of what the feds do. The states need to grow a pair and scream about this.

There was no space program in 1776 either. No transcontinental train system. No electricity or power plants. No oil and gas industry. Shall I go on?

This is why Thomas Jefferson wrote: ""I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and constitutions, but laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. ........with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors.

Hey stupid. That's why the constitution itself spells out how it can be amended. Times change and the constitution should change with them. But it has to be done thru the amending process.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

If only there was some way to amend the Constitution when it proves to be inadequate to the times. Nah, that'd never work. Let's just pretend the Constitution allows what we want it to allow.

Yup - liberals want us to play pretend and bypass the amending process. They know the amending process requires 3/4 of the states approval and they can't get that for their crazy ideas.