When wingnuts and moonbats fly: What people | Palin | Gore | really said.

[Dante]

When wingnuts and moonbats fly: What people | Palin | Gore | really said.​

AL Gore : what did he actually say and in what context? Do you know?

Starting with Al Gore, below is a defense that is printed in full as the source of a particular web page could not be found.

One of the fathers of the internet, Vint Cerf:

Vint Cerf responded to MSNBC's questions about the Net's origins with this e-mail:

VP Gore was the first or surely among the first of the members of Congress to become a strong supporter of advanced networking while he served as Senator. As far back as 1986, he was holding hearings on this subject (supercomputing, fiber networks...) and asking about their promise and what could be done to realize them. Bob Kahn, with whom I worked to develop the Internet design in 1973, participated in several hearings held by then-Senator Gore and I recall that Bob introduced the term ``information infrastructure'' in one hearing in 1986. It was clear that as a Senator and now as Vice President, Gore has made it a point to be as well-informed as possible on technology and issues that surround it.

As Senator, VP Gore was highly supportive of the research community's efforts to explore new networking capabilities and to extend access to supercomputers by way of NSFNET and its successors, the High Performance Computing and Communication program (which included the National Research and Education Network initiative), and as Vice President, he has been very responsive to recommendations made, for example, by the President's Information Technology Advisory Committee that endorsed additional research funding for next generation fundamental research in software and related topics. If you look at the last 30-35 years of network development, you'll find many people who have made major contributions without which the Internet would not be the vibrant, growing and exciting thing it is today. The creation of a new information infrastructure requires the willing efforts of thousands if not millions of participants and we've seen leadership from many quarters, all of it needed, to move the Internet towards increased availability and utility around the world.

While it is not accurate to say that VP Gore invented Internet, he has played a powerful role in policy terms that has supported its continued growth and application, for which we should be thankful.

We're fortunate to have senior level members of Congress and the Administration who embrace new technology and have the vision to see how it can be put to work for national and global benefit.

wingnut

moonbat

 

[Dante]

"I can see Russia from my house." Palin's actual words "You can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska."



wingnut

moonbat

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

When wingnuts and moonbats fly: What people | Palin | Gore | really said.​

AL Gore : what did he actually say and in what context? Do you know?

Starting with Al Gore, below is a defense that is printed in full as the source of a particular web page could not be found.

One of the fathers of the internet, Vint Cerf:

Vint Cerf responded to MSNBC's questions about the Net's origins with this e-mail:

VP Gore was the first or surely among the first of the members of Congress to become a strong supporter of advanced networking while he served as Senator. As far back as 1986, he was holding hearings on this subject (supercomputing, fiber networks...) and asking about their promise and what could be done to realize them. Bob Kahn, with whom I worked to develop the Internet design in 1973, participated in several hearings held by then-Senator Gore and I recall that Bob introduced the term ``information infrastructure'' in one hearing in 1986. It was clear that as a Senator and now as Vice President, Gore has made it a point to be as well-informed as possible on technology and issues that surround it.

As Senator, VP Gore was highly supportive of the research community's efforts to explore new networking capabilities and to extend access to supercomputers by way of NSFNET and its successors, the High Performance Computing and Communication program (which included the National Research and Education Network initiative), and as Vice President, he has been very responsive to recommendations made, for example, by the President's Information Technology Advisory Committee that endorsed additional research funding for next generation fundamental research in software and related topics. If you look at the last 30-35 years of network development, you'll find many people who have made major contributions without which the Internet would not be the vibrant, growing and exciting thing it is today. The creation of a new information infrastructure requires the willing efforts of thousands if not millions of participants and we've seen leadership from many quarters, all of it needed, to move the Internet towards increased availability and utility around the world.

While it is not accurate to say that VP Gore invented Internet, he has played a powerful role in policy terms that has supported its continued growth and application, for which we should be thankful.

We're fortunate to have senior level members of Congress and the Administration who embrace new technology and have the vision to see how it can be put to work for national and global benefit.

wingnut

moonbat

More to the point:

Despite the derisive references that continue even today, Al Gore did not
claim he "invented" the Internet, nor did he say anything that could reasonably be interpreted that way. The "Al Gore said he 'invented' the Internet" put-downs were misleading, out-of-context distortions of something he said during an interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN's "Late Edition" program on 9 March 1999.

snopes.com: Al Gore Invented the Internet

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"I can see Russia from my house." Palin's actual words "You can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska."



wingnut

moonbat

And again to the point:

The basis for the line was Governor Palin's 11 September 2008 appearance on ABC News, her first major interview after being tapped as the vice-presidential nominee. During that appearance, interviewer Charles Gibson asked her what insight she had gained from living so close to Russia, and she responded: "They're our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska":

snopes.com: I Can See Alaska from My House

 

[Amelia]

Al Gore:

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

 

[Douger]

I just added another 13 lbs. to my cheese press.Doing sharp cheddar. Is there a problem ?

 

[Liability]

I just added another 13 lbs. to my cheese press.Doing sharp cheddar. Is there a problem ?

No. Incoherence and irrelevance is not a problem for you.

It's your usual state of being.

 

[Liability]

Meanwhile, Dante's thread does make a valid point.

Wait. Did I just say that? I mean, I typed THOSE words?

Really?

Well, ok. I'll cop to it.

What the candidates actually said is often different than the spin put on their words by the partisans of the opposing camp.

 

[whitehall]

Beats talking about Obama I guess.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Al Gore:

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

You obviously didn’t read the cited article; but keep the conservative tradition of repeating a lie often enough until it’s perceived as true alive, regardless the facts.

Beats talking about Obama I guess.

Why bother? Conservatives won’t enter into a good faith debate predicated on facts. As per post #5 they’ve closed their minds to the truth, as it conflicts with rightist dogma.

 

[whitehall]

Is that the way it's going to be for the rest of the election cycle? Childish name calling and discussing Algore instead of Hussein?

 

[Liability]

Al Gore:

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

You obviously didn’t read the cited article; but keep the conservative tradition of repeating a lie often enough until it’s perceived as true alive, regardless the facts.

Beats talking about Obama I guess.

Why bother? Conservatives won’t enter into a good faith debate predicated on facts. As per post #5 they’ve closed their minds to the truth, as it conflicts with rightist dogma.

Blather.

algore DID say it:

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

And yeah yeah. We KNOW that doesn't mean that he claims to have invented the fucking internet.

But his grandiose claim of participating in the initiative to create the internet was also nearly complete bullshit.

come on, dude. Even a hyper partisan drone like you OUGHT to be able to admit that much.

 

[dilloduck]

My mind has been completely opened. Now I know that AlGORE are smart.

 

[Dante]

Al Gore:

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

You obviously didn’t read the cited article; but keep the conservative tradition of repeating a lie often enough until it’s perceived as true alive, regardless the facts.

Beats talking about Obama I guess.

Why bother? Conservatives won’t enter into a good faith debate predicated on facts. As per post #5 they’ve closed their minds to the truth, as it conflicts with rightist dogma.

Blather.

algore DID say it:

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

And yeah yeah. We KNOW that doesn't mean that he claims to have invented the fucking internet.

But his grandiose claim of participating in the initiative to create the internet was also nearly complete bullshit.

come on, dude. Even a hyper partisan drone like you OUGHT to be able to admit that much.

poor fool

a defense that is printed in full as the source of a particular web page could not be found.

One of the fathers of the internet, Vint Cerf:

Vint Cerf responded to MSNBC's questions about the Net's origins with this e-mail:

VP Gore was the first or surely among the first of the members of Congress to become a strong supporter of advanced networking while he served as Senator. As far back as 1986, he was holding hearings on this subject (supercomputing, fiber networks...) and asking about their promise and what could be done to realize them. Bob Kahn, with whom I worked to develop the Internet design in 1973, participated in several hearings held by then-Senator Gore and I recall that Bob introduced the term ``information infrastructure'' in one hearing in 1986. It was clear that as a Senator and now as Vice President, Gore has made it a point to be as well-informed as possible on technology and issues that surround it.

As Senator, VP Gore was highly supportive of the research community's efforts to explore new networking capabilities and to extend access to supercomputers by way of NSFNET and its successors, the High Performance Computing and Communication program (which included the National Research and Education Network initiative), and as Vice President, he has been very responsive to recommendations made, for example, by the President's Information Technology Advisory Committee that endorsed additional research funding for next generation fundamental research in software and related topics. If you look at the last 30-35 years of network development, you'll find many people who have made major contributions without which the Internet would not be the vibrant, growing and exciting thing it is today. The creation of a new information infrastructure requires the willing efforts of thousands if not millions of participants and we've seen leadership from many quarters, all of it needed, to move the Internet towards increased availability and utility around the world.

While it is not accurate to say that VP Gore invented Internet, he has played a powerful role in policy terms that has supported its continued growth and application, for which we should be thankful.

We're fortunate to have senior level members of Congress and the Administration who embrace new technology and have the vision to see how it can be put to work for national and global benefit.

wingnut

moonbat

 

[Dante]

Meanwhile, Dante's thread does make a valid point.

Wait. Did I just say that? I mean, I typed THOSE words?

Really?

Well, ok. I'll cop to it.

What the candidates actually said is often different than the spin put on their words by the partisans of the opposing camp.

yet in the post above this one you had to go back to your old self? read the defense of Gore by a father of the internet

 

[hortysir]

Tina Fey: I can see Russia from my house

 

[Amelia]

Al Gore needed the defense because of what he said. What is the point in pretending that he didn't say it. Every time you act like it's outrageous for us to quote him, you undermine your case that this is much ado about nothing.

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

It is what it is.

There you go ... have fun spending another 2, 10, 20 pages calling us wingnuts for quoting him. lol

 

[Dante]

Al Gore needed the defense because of what he said. What is the point in pretending that he didn't say it. Every time you act like it's outrageous for us to quote him, you undermine your case that this is much ado about nothing.

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

It is what it is.

There you go ... have fun spending another 2, 10, 20 pages calling us wingnuts for quoting him. lol

considering people like you fail to grasp meanings in basic English? I've never said Gore never said what he said. Never.

But I do like truth as well as fact. Truth is what bothers you. The fact can be spun for the purposes of propaganda, lying by omission. You omit what Gore meant in the context he spoke. That is deceitful, dishonorable, and deceptive.

You are a moron. Case closed:


a defense that is printed in full as the source of a particular web page could not be found.

One of the fathers of the internet, Vint Cerf:

Vint Cerf responded to MSNBC's questions about the Net's origins with this e-mail:

VP Gore was the first or surely among the first of the members of Congress to become a strong supporter of advanced networking while he served as Senator. As far back as 1986, he was holding hearings on this subject (supercomputing, fiber networks...) and asking about their promise and what could be done to realize them. Bob Kahn, with whom I worked to develop the Internet design in 1973, participated in several hearings held by then-Senator Gore and I recall that Bob introduced the term ``information infrastructure'' in one hearing in 1986. It was clear that as a Senator and now as Vice President, Gore has made it a point to be as well-informed as possible on technology and issues that surround it.

As Senator, VP Gore was highly supportive of the research community's efforts to explore new networking capabilities and to extend access to supercomputers by way of NSFNET and its successors, the High Performance Computing and Communication program (which included the National Research and Education Network initiative), and as Vice President, he has been very responsive to recommendations made, for example, by the President's Information Technology Advisory Committee that endorsed additional research funding for next generation fundamental research in software and related topics. If you look at the last 30-35 years of network development, you'll find many people who have made major contributions without which the Internet would not be the vibrant, growing and exciting thing it is today. The creation of a new information infrastructure requires the willing efforts of thousands if not millions of participants and we've seen leadership from many quarters, all of it needed, to move the Internet towards increased availability and utility around the world.

While it is not accurate to say that VP Gore invented Internet, he has played a powerful role in policy terms that has supported its continued growth and application, for which we should be thankful.

We're fortunate to have senior level members of Congress and the Administration who embrace new technology and have the vision to see how it can be put to work for national and global benefit.

wingnut

moonbat

 

[Uncensored2008]

When wingnuts and moonbats fly: What people | Palin | Gore | really said.​

AL Gore : what did he actually say and in what context? Do you know?

Starting with Al Gore, below is a defense that is printed in full as the source of a particular web page could not be found.

Ah, fucknuts and their idiocy....

Did 2.2 GPA Algore say he invented the Internet?

Lets see,

Roget’s Thesaurus

Look up word "created"

Built
Constructed
Fabricated
INVENTED
Produced


Gee, I guess Gore DID claim that he INVENTED the Internet, since invent and create are synonyms.

But I can understand where you gush about Algore, 'cause who is likened unto him?

Gore DID create the Internet,

But more than that, Gore was technologically savvy enough to build himself a time machine, went back to February 1962, used the name J.C.R. Licklider and defined the concept of the "Galactic Network," which was the birth of the Internet.

Then Algore, our superhero went forward to October, used the names Ivan Sutherland, Bob Taylor, and Lawrence G. Roberts. Now this even further proves just how special our Algore is, because he had to use a special "molecular splitter" to assume all four of these roles at once, but nothing is too much for our Algore.

Using these four names, Algore convinced the Department of Defense (DARPA) to fund a project to determine the feasibility of his idea (as Licklider.)

(Yeah, it’s true that congress had nothing to do with any funding until 1991, but that’s a minor point, Algore was responsible for DoD funding, as you can see!)

Then he went forward to 1964, and turned himself into Leonard Kleinrock, under this name, our superhero Algore created "packet switching," alleviating the need for physical circuits.

Of course this went on for some time, Algore mounting his time machine to go to different periods and "create the Internet."

Algore the perfect, made stops as Bob Kahn, so he could create NCP, the foundation of TCP/IP. Then still being Kahn employed the help of Vint Cerf to develop TCP/IP itself.

And of course, he assumed the identity of Bob Metcalfe to develop Ethernet, the networking system the Internet and most LANs use.


Now no one is quite sure why Gore used all these different names, or why he changed his appearance. But as Gore supporters, our job is to never question. He said he created the Internet, and it's our job to show that he did, no matter how stupid we may have to be in doing so.

Maybe Algore will take credit for inventing time travel next, and release the plans for his "way back machine" to the public.

Wouldn't that be swell?

 

[Dante]

When wingnuts and moonbats fly: What people | Palin | Gore | really said.​

AL Gore : what did he actually say and in what context? Do you know?

Starting with Al Gore, below is a defense that is printed in full as the source of a particular web page could not be found.

Ah, fucknuts and their idiocy....

Did 2.2 GPA Algore say he invented the Internet?

Lets see,

Roget’s Thesaurus

Look up word "created"

Built
Constructed
Fabricated
INVENTED
Produced


Gee, I guess Gore DID claim that he INVENTED the Internet, since invent and create are synonyms.

But I can understand where you gush about Algore, 'cause who is likened unto him?

Gore DID create the Internet,

But more than that, Gore was technologically savvy enough to build himself a time machine, went back to February 1962, used the name J.C.R. Licklider and defined the concept of the "Galactic Network," which was the birth of the Internet.

Then Algore, our superhero went forward to October, used the names Ivan Sutherland, Bob Taylor, and Lawrence G. Roberts. Now this even further proves just how special our Algore is, because he had to use a special "molecular splitter" to assume all four of these roles at once, but nothing is too much for our Algore.

Using these four names, Algore convinced the Department of Defense (DARPA) to fund a project to determine the feasibility of his idea (as Licklider.)

(Yeah, it’s true that congress had nothing to do with any funding until 1991, but that’s a minor point, Algore was responsible for DoD funding, as you can see!)

Then he went forward to 1964, and turned himself into Leonard Kleinrock, under this name, our superhero Algore created "packet switching," alleviating the need for physical circuits.

Of course this went on for some time, Algore mounting his time machine to go to different periods and "create the Internet."

Algore the perfect, made stops as Bob Kahn, so he could create NCP, the foundation of TCP/IP. Then still being Kahn employed the help of Vint Cerf to develop TCP/IP itself.

And of course, he assumed the identity of Bob Metcalfe to develop Ethernet, the networking system the Internet and most LANs use.


Now no one is quite sure why Gore used all these different names, or why he changed his appearance. But as Gore supporters, our job is to never question. He said he created the Internet, and it's our job to show that he did, no matter how stupid we may have to be in doing so.

Maybe Algore will take credit for inventing time travel next, and release the plans for his "way back machine" to the public.

Wouldn't that be swell?

you used Google?

Al Gore needed the defense because of what he said. What is the point in pretending that he didn't say it. Every time you act like it's outrageous for us to quote him, you undermine your case that this is much ado about nothing.

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

It is what it is.

There you go ... have fun spending another 2, 10, 20 pages calling us wingnuts for quoting him. lol

considering people like you fail to grasp meanings in basic English? I've never said Gore never said what he said. Never.

But I do like truth as well as fact. Truth is what bothers you. The fact can be spun for the purposes of propaganda, lying by omission. You omit what Gore meant in the context he spoke. That is deceitful, dishonorable, and deceptive.

You are a moron. Case closed:


a defense that is printed in full as the source of a particular web page could not be found.

One of the fathers of the internet, Vint Cerf:

Vint Cerf responded to MSNBC's questions about the Net's origins with this e-mail:

VP Gore was the first or surely among the first of the members of Congress to become a strong supporter of advanced networking while he served as Senator. As far back as 1986, he was holding hearings on this subject (supercomputing, fiber networks...) and asking about their promise and what could be done to realize them. Bob Kahn, with whom I worked to develop the Internet design in 1973, participated in several hearings held by then-Senator Gore and I recall that Bob introduced the term ``information infrastructure'' in one hearing in 1986. It was clear that as a Senator and now as Vice President, Gore has made it a point to be as well-informed as possible on technology and issues that surround it.

As Senator, VP Gore was highly supportive of the research community's efforts to explore new networking capabilities and to extend access to supercomputers by way of NSFNET and its successors, the High Performance Computing and Communication program (which included the National Research and Education Network initiative), and as Vice President, he has been very responsive to recommendations made, for example, by the President's Information Technology Advisory Committee that endorsed additional research funding for next generation fundamental research in software and related topics. If you look at the last 30-35 years of network development, you'll find many people who have made major contributions without which the Internet would not be the vibrant, growing and exciting thing it is today. The creation of a new information infrastructure requires the willing efforts of thousands if not millions of participants and we've seen leadership from many quarters, all of it needed, to move the Internet towards increased availability and utility around the world.

While it is not accurate to say that VP Gore invented Internet, he has played a powerful role in policy terms that has supported its continued growth and application, for which we should be thankful.

We're fortunate to have senior level members of Congress and the Administration who embrace new technology and have the vision to see how it can be put to work for national and global benefit.

wingnut

moonbat