When white people used to do farm work

[Mac-7]

What do you propose the do?

Never mind what they should do, since that isnt going to happen

An update of “Profiles in Courage” would not include a chapter dedicated to the 2025 teachers

 

[Mac-7]

What do you propose the do?

First I would introduce cameras in the classroom

Then allow patents to take their children and education dollars over to private schools

That would be over the protests of public teachers and paper shuffling administrators

 

[80zephyr]

If you are losing out on a job to someone with no money, no contacts and a limited grasp on the English Language, you've made all the wrong life choices. That's not their fault, it's yours.

Bullshit. They are stealing good paying construction jobs. Tell you what, we would see the borders closed real quick if they were importing lawyers to steal jobs from our homegrown ones.

 

[JoeB131]

Per pupil we are way ahead of almost everyone

And we have little to show for it

Btw: trump is wrong to allow 300,000 chinese to study in US colleges

Only because you are short-sighted

If you guys were serious about wanting China to someday embrace Western values, the fastest way to do that would be to invite as many of their best and brightest as we could to come here to study.

No, we aren't going to change the minds of Xi and his generation. But we can help to mold the generation that follows it.

 

[JoeB131]

Bullshit. They are stealing good paying construction jobs. Tell you what, we would see the borders closed real quick if they were importing lawyers to steal jobs from our homegrown ones.

Um, guy, here's the thing. No one wants to go into the trades. (And I say that as someone whose family is in the trades.)

My brother (who just retired from the Sheet Metal Workers union after 40 years) did nothing but complain about how few new apprentices there are and how the ones they are getting are dumber than shit.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Never mind what they should do, since that isnt going to happen

An update of “Profiles in Courage” would not include a chapter dedicated to the 2025 teachers

So, once again, you pop off and can't back up when you are proven wrong. Mental midget.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

First I would introduce cameras in the classroom

Then allow patents to take their children and education dollars over to private schools

That would be over the protests of public teachers and paper shuffling administrators

Illegal. Next!

Laughable. Not happening. I am not paying for Muhammed's kids in a madrassa. I say that as a parent and grandparent.

 

[80zephyr]

Um, guy, here's the thing. No one wants to go into the trades. (And I say that as someone whose family is in the trades.)

My brother (who just retired from the Sheet Metal Workers union after 40 years) did nothing but complain about how few new apprentices there are and how the ones they are getting are dumber than shit.

Again, bullshit. I have electricians, plumbers, and carpenters in my family. One is my 36 year old son, 3 are nephews in their 40's.

I know plenty of young kids in the trades. My son, at 36, is sometimes the oldest on the job.

 

[JoeB131]

Again, bullshit. I have electricians, plumbers, and carpenters in my family. One is my 36 year old son, 3 are nephews in their 40's.

I know plenty of young kids in the trades. My son, at 36, is sometimes the oldest on the job.

Right.

So these guys are lying then?

https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/people-and-organizational-performance/our-insights/tradespeople-wanted-the-need-for-critical-trade-skills-in-the-us

The aging of the United States is becoming increasingly evident: between 1984 and 2027, the ratio of post-working-age individuals to working-age individuals is projected to rise by about 75 percent, from 2:10 to 3.5:10.3 In some sectors, the impact is already acute.4 Since the pandemic, labor force participation rates for people 55 and older have declined by about 2 percent, while for 16- to 24-year-olds, both participation rates and employment population ratios remain below pre-COVID-19 levels.5

Moreover, Gen Z workers report persistent cultural barriers to vocational training. Despite a recent 3 percent rebound in vocational enrollment (up from 2018 levels),6 a survey of 1,000 US-based 18- to 20-year-olds found that 74 percent perceive a stigma associated with choosing vocational school over a traditional four-year university. An overwhelming 79 percent of respondents said their parents wanted them to pursue a college education after high school, while only 5 percent said the same about vocational school.7
Younger workers’ employment preferences pose an additional challenge. McKinsey recently compared worker attitudes and behaviors across five small, consistently sized age groups: Gen Z (18- to 24-year-olds), younger millennials (25- to 34-year-olds), older millennials (35- to 44-year-olds), Gen X (45- to 54-year-olds), and younger baby boomers (55- to 64-year-olds). We found that when taking a new job, contrary to all other age groups, Gen Z prioritizes career development and advancement potential as their top factors. When deciding to stay in a job, Gen Z, younger millennials, and older millennials prioritize workplace flexibility. The on-site and highly structured nature of construction and manufacturing jobs typically doesn’t map to these preferences.

 

[80zephyr]

Right.

So these guys are lying then?

https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/people-and-organizational-performance/our-insights/tradespeople-wanted-the-need-for-critical-trade-skills-in-the-us

The aging of the United States is becoming increasingly evident: between 1984 and 2027, the ratio of post-working-age individuals to working-age individuals is projected to rise by about 75 percent, from 2:10 to 3.5:10.3 In some sectors, the impact is already acute.4 Since the pandemic, labor force participation rates for people 55 and older have declined by about 2 percent, while for 16- to 24-year-olds, both participation rates and employment population ratios remain below pre-COVID-19 levels.5

Moreover, Gen Z workers report persistent cultural barriers to vocational training. Despite a recent 3 percent rebound in vocational enrollment (up from 2018 levels),6 a survey of 1,000 US-based 18- to 20-year-olds found that 74 percent perceive a stigma associated with choosing vocational school over a traditional four-year university. An overwhelming 79 percent of respondents said their parents wanted them to pursue a college education after high school, while only 5 percent said the same about vocational school.7
Younger workers’ employment preferences pose an additional challenge. McKinsey recently compared worker attitudes and behaviors across five small, consistently sized age groups: Gen Z (18- to 24-year-olds), younger millennials (25- to 34-year-olds), older millennials (35- to 44-year-olds), Gen X (45- to 54-year-olds), and younger baby boomers (55- to 64-year-olds). We found that when taking a new job, contrary to all other age groups, Gen Z prioritizes career development and advancement potential as their top factors. When deciding to stay in a job, Gen Z, younger millennials, and older millennials prioritize workplace flexibility. The on-site and highly structured nature of construction and manufacturing jobs typically doesn’t map to these preferences.

They were right. Attitudes are changing. My son makes over 50 bucks an hour with excellent benefits. They will respond.

 

[JoeB131]

They were right. Attitudes are changing. My son makes over 50 bucks an hour with excellent benefits. They will respond.

Good for him.

We should all make that kind of money for working.

The problem is, the Trades are one of the few places where you can still be in a union to make that kind of money.

 

[80zephyr]

Good for him.

We should all make that kind of money for working.

The problem is, the Trades are one of the few places where you can still be in a union to make that kind of money.

If we all made that kind of money for working, the trades would have to be paying over a hundred dollars an hour for people to stay in them. Why work like that when you could get a job working less and make the same pay?

 

[Mac-7]

If you guys were serious about wanting China to someday embrace Western values, the fastest way to do that would be to invite as many of their best and brightest as we could to come here to study.

I would bar all chinese students in STEM subjects

But if they want to study economics or politics that might be ok

 

[JoeB131]

I would bar all chinese students in STEM subjects

But if they want to study economics or politics that might be ok

Since you are barely smart enough to even spell "STEM", I don't think you are the best person to listen to.

Colleges WANT Chinese scholars. They enhance the quality of the research they do.

 

[Mac-7]

Since you are barely smart enough to even spell "STEM", I don't think you are the best person to listen to.

Colleges WANT Chinese scholars. They enhance the quality of the research they do.

Maybe you dont know what STEM stands for

Its Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics

stem subjects meaning at DuckDuckGo

DuckDuckGo. Privacy, Simplified.

duckduckgo.com

The greedy educators want chinese students because they pay more

 

[JoeB131]

Maybe you dont know what STEM stands for

Its Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics

Right. Stuff you aren't smart enough to do. Got it.

The greedy educators want chinese students because they pay more

Why is that a bad thing? You Republicans normally LOVE greed and the wealthy putting profits above common decency.

So you have a choice between a dumb-as-a-stump white kid who grew up in the Bible Belt and thinks that Evolution is a hoax, or a really sharp Chinese babe who maxed her SAT, and is willing to pay more.

I know which one I'd pick.

 

[Robert W]

So you have a choice between a dumb-as-a-stump white kid who grew up in the Bible Belt and thinks that Evolution is a hoax, or a really sharp Chinese babe who maxed her SAT, and is willing to pay more.

Why are you roaring about evolution? Citizens can get educated and not even spend time on evolution. Work is done all year long and nobody is talking about evolution. Why not talk about women of China since you have actual hands-on experience?

 

[JoeB131]

Why are you roaring about evolution? Citizens can get educated and not even spend time on evolution. Work is done all year long and nobody is talking about evolution. Why not talk about women of China since you have actual hands-on experience?

Frankly, if you are getting a high school diploma and don't know what Evolution is, then you aren't educated.

yeah, I like my "hands on" experience.

 

[Robert W]

Frankly, if you are getting a high school diploma and don't know what Evolution is, then you aren't educated.

yeah, I like my "hands on" experience.

What else do humans have besides their rectums? Opinions Joe.
In my case we never discussed this in my university level courses in high school Joe. Do I know a lot about evolution? Sure, I know a lot about evolution as much as citizens need to know.

 

[JoeB131]

What else do humans have besides their rectums? Opinions Joe.
In my case we never discussed this in my university level courses in high school Joe. Do I know a lot about evolution? Sure, I know a lot about evolution as much as citizens need to know.

Again, the problem with Americans is that Evolution contradicts Christianity... which is why we don't learn it.

And the universities need to import Chinese so the collective IQ doesn't drop.