When They Say "Democracy," They Don't Mean "Democracy"

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When They Say "Democracy," They Don't Mean "Democracy"

"Imagine if the US and EU were still aligned on the censorship-by-proxy strategy. Few people realize how close we were to global totalitarianism."

— Michael Shellenberger

8 Dec 2025 ~~ By James Howard Kunstler

Western Civ is choking itself to death with lawfare in the name of “democracy.” If you think just a little bit past the sale, you will realize that few will say what they mean by “democracy,” including the most ardent “democracy” cultists. What it supposedly means is legal outcomes that the political left wants, not what the law, or the truth, or justice requires.
On the surface, the left pretends to want outcomes that favor their roster of designated victim groups: women, dark-skinned people, and sexual outliers, the familiar cast of characters with its tiresome scripts. But that’s not what they really want. They don’t really care about the “marginalized.” What they really want is power. The “marginalized” are just their clients and shock troops. They want to push everybody around, tell them how to live, and what to think, including the marginalized. If society has to get wrecked in the process, that’s okay — that will just make it easier to “build back better” to their advantage, or so their operating algorithm dictates. The left does not think past its own algorithms.
The “democracy” cultists are foremost against freedom of speech, because speech is what distinguishes human beings among the rest of the animal kingdom, and if you allow it, human beings are liable to develop ideas — ideas being the product of language — and especially ideas that make the “democracy” cultists uncomfortable. For instance, the idea that the “democracy” cultists don’t deserve the power they crave because they are dishonest, unscrupulous, and sadistic. Can’t have people thinking that, or saying it out-loud.
~Snip~
When Mr. Trump miraculously survived manifold attempts to stuff him in prison via lawfare and then, attempted murder, and managed to get re-elected, he put an end to the censorship shenanigans in government. That, in turn, became inconvenient to the “democracy” cultists in Europe who were, apparently, not busy enough destroying their own countries’ cultures and their economies. They put extra effort into suppressing free expression among their citizen-subjects: serious jail time for mean texts and mere casual statements on the street.
Now they are coming after the international speech platform “X,” liberated by Elon Musk three years ago at a $44-billion price. The European Commission, a body of unelected bureaucrats under the EU, created a so-called Digital Services Act to deal with the threat of free speech. After a two-year-investigation, the commission has leveled a $140-million fine against “X” for a series of specious offenses, such as not meaningfully verifying account authenticity [blue check marks] eroding trust in verified content. Mr. Musk objected, naturally. Veep JD Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio, called it an “attack on American tech.” It’s more than that, of course. It’s an effort to wreck the company, which would eliminate the chief remaining public arena for free speech and genuine news worldwide.
~Snip~
We have enough trouble with the “democracy” cult here at home. The Norm Eisen Axis-of-Evil has enjoyed endless “funding” from the dark money spigots of George Soros, British hedge fund billionaire Christopher Hohn, and Shanghai-based American billionaire Neville Roy Singham. Once the money-flows are turned off, you will see a lot less nuisance litigation aimed at perverting the rule of law and destroying the country. Norm Eisen and his colleagues operate out of a set of foundations and NGOs, chiefly Brookings and the outfit Eisen founded called the States United Democracy Center. They are mere money-launderers.
The federal judiciary is the “democracy” cult’s remaining praetorian guard. The federal judges, especially the Obama and Biden appointed ones, are making sure that Lawfare ninjas won’t be prosecuted for any crimes. The two latest examples: James Comey, case dismissed on procedural issues (for now) on his charge of lying to Congress. And New York AG Leticia James, let off the hook on a mortgage fraud rap by a federal grand jury in the Eastern District of Virginia, probably a case of “jury nullification” and probably due to race — after the fashion of OJ Simpson skating on murder in 1995.
Unfortunately, the remedy of impeaching federal judges is unavailable due to the 60-vote majority required for removal in the Senate.


Commentary:
The Democrat party calling itself the Democratic party when there is nothing Democratic about it. Democrats define "Democracy" like The German “Democratic” Republic, or the “Democratic” Peoples Republic of North Korea.
Historically, Democracy meant government by consent, rooted in individual rights, free expression, and constitutional limits. This tradition—shaped by thinkers like John Locke, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and Alexis de Tocqueville—emphasized liberty, not state control.
But has begun to shift the meaning. In their rhetoric, “democracy” now implying economic equality enforced by the state, majoritarian rule unconstrained by constitutional checks and government as provider of outcomes, not protector of rights.
This Democrat Socialists of America (DSA) Marxist redefinition aligns more closely with collectivist systems than with classical liberal democracy. It echoes the logic of Rousseau’s “general will”, where dissent becomes illegitimate if it opposes the collective vision.
To DSA Progressive Elitist Marxists, Democracy means “Rule by the Democrats”.
That is rule by the elites who control the masses of plebeians
 
This isn't the first time I've posted my view that the DNC conducts itself in manner of organized crime which suppresses the party's rank and file.

I only glanced at the OP, given my thought that the party's leaders garner their own power rather than embracing democracy.
 
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"Democracy", in the United States, exists only in so far as we vote for the people who represent us in Congress.
That's it. That's the full extent of our national democracy.

The state level is similar, except that we also vote for governors and certain other executive officers of our individual states.
Some states allow plebiscites for changes in the state constitutions and the creation of some state laws.
In this, the states are far more democratic that the United States. As intended.

Understanding this, the constant screams from the left about the destruction of our democracy by Trump, et al, is, at best, mindless nonsense.
 
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There is a deep state. A permanent bureaucracy that not does change every 4 years that are grifters who steal taxpayers money for their own power and enrichment.

Just look at the CIA AND FBI HIERARCHY.

Senate.

House.

The corruption is so systemic that to stop the corruption, the patient would probably die.

Like an inoperable cancer.
 
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When They Say "Democracy," They Don't Mean "Democracy"

"Imagine if the US and EU were still aligned on the censorship-by-proxy strategy. Few people realize how close we were to global totalitarianism."

— Michael Shellenberger

8 Dec 2025 ~~ By James Howard Kunstler

Western Civ is choking itself to death with lawfare in the name of “democracy.” If you think just a little bit past the sale, you will realize that few will say what they mean by “democracy,” including the most ardent “democracy” cultists. What it supposedly means is legal outcomes that the political left wants, not what the law, or the truth, or justice requires.
On the surface, the left pretends to want outcomes that favor their roster of designated victim groups: women, dark-skinned people, and sexual outliers, the familiar cast of characters with its tiresome scripts. But that’s not what they really want. They don’t really care about the “marginalized.” What they really want is power. The “marginalized” are just their clients and shock troops. They want to push everybody around, tell them how to live, and what to think, including the marginalized. If society has to get wrecked in the process, that’s okay — that will just make it easier to “build back better” to their advantage, or so their operating algorithm dictates. The left does not think past its own algorithms.
The “democracy” cultists are foremost against freedom of speech, because speech is what distinguishes human beings among the rest of the animal kingdom, and if you allow it, human beings are liable to develop ideas — ideas being the product of language — and especially ideas that make the “democracy” cultists uncomfortable. For instance, the idea that the “democracy” cultists don’t deserve the power they crave because they are dishonest, unscrupulous, and sadistic. Can’t have people thinking that, or saying it out-loud.
~Snip~
When Mr. Trump miraculously survived manifold attempts to stuff him in prison via lawfare and then, attempted murder, and managed to get re-elected, he put an end to the censorship shenanigans in government. That, in turn, became inconvenient to the “democracy” cultists in Europe who were, apparently, not busy enough destroying their own countries’ cultures and their economies. They put extra effort into suppressing free expression among their citizen-subjects: serious jail time for mean texts and mere casual statements on the street.
Now they are coming after the international speech platform “X,” liberated by Elon Musk three years ago at a $44-billion price. The European Commission, a body of unelected bureaucrats under the EU, created a so-called Digital Services Act to deal with the threat of free speech. After a two-year-investigation, the commission has leveled a $140-million fine against “X” for a series of specious offenses, such as not meaningfully verifying account authenticity [blue check marks] eroding trust in verified content. Mr. Musk objected, naturally. Veep JD Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio, called it an “attack on American tech.” It’s more than that, of course. It’s an effort to wreck the company, which would eliminate the chief remaining public arena for free speech and genuine news worldwide.
~Snip~
We have enough trouble with the “democracy” cult here at home. The Norm Eisen Axis-of-Evil has enjoyed endless “funding” from the dark money spigots of George Soros, British hedge fund billionaire Christopher Hohn, and Shanghai-based American billionaire Neville Roy Singham. Once the money-flows are turned off, you will see a lot less nuisance litigation aimed at perverting the rule of law and destroying the country. Norm Eisen and his colleagues operate out of a set of foundations and NGOs, chiefly Brookings and the outfit Eisen founded called the States United Democracy Center. They are mere money-launderers.
The federal judiciary is the “democracy” cult’s remaining praetorian guard. The federal judges, especially the Obama and Biden appointed ones, are making sure that Lawfare ninjas won’t be prosecuted for any crimes. The two latest examples: James Comey, case dismissed on procedural issues (for now) on his charge of lying to Congress. And New York AG Leticia James, let off the hook on a mortgage fraud rap by a federal grand jury in the Eastern District of Virginia, probably a case of “jury nullification” and probably due to race — after the fashion of OJ Simpson skating on murder in 1995.
Unfortunately, the remedy of impeaching federal judges is unavailable due to the 60-vote majority required for removal in the Senate.


Commentary:
The Democrat party calling itself the Democratic party when there is nothing Democratic about it. Democrats define "Democracy" like The German “Democratic” Republic, or the “Democratic” Peoples Republic of North Korea.
Historically, Democracy meant government by consent, rooted in individual rights, free expression, and constitutional limits. This tradition—shaped by thinkers like John Locke, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and Alexis de Tocqueville—emphasized liberty, not state control.
But has begun to shift the meaning. In their rhetoric, “democracy” now implying economic equality enforced by the state, majoritarian rule unconstrained by constitutional checks and government as provider of outcomes, not protector of rights.
This Democrat Socialists of America (DSA) Marxist redefinition aligns more closely with collectivist systems than with classical liberal democracy. It echoes the logic of Rousseau’s “general will”, where dissent becomes illegitimate if it opposes the collective vision.
To DSA Progressive Elitist Marxists, Democracy means “Rule by the Democrats”.
That is rule by the elites who control the masses of plebeians
I’ve said several times that democrats confuse the words democrat and democracy. They think if you take democrats away then democracy is taken away.
 

When They Say "Democracy," They Don't Mean "Democracy"

"Imagine if the US and EU were still aligned on the censorship-by-proxy strategy. Few people realize how close we were to global totalitarianism."

— Michael Shellenberger

8 Dec 2025 ~~ By James Howard Kunstler

Western Civ is choking itself to death with lawfare in the name of “democracy.” If you think just a little bit past the sale, you will realize that few will say what they mean by “democracy,” including the most ardent “democracy” cultists. What it supposedly means is legal outcomes that the political left wants, not what the law, or the truth, or justice requires.
On the surface, the left pretends to want outcomes that favor their roster of designated victim groups: women, dark-skinned people, and sexual outliers, the familiar cast of characters with its tiresome scripts. But that’s not what they really want. They don’t really care about the “marginalized.” What they really want is power. The “marginalized” are just their clients and shock troops. They want to push everybody around, tell them how to live, and what to think, including the marginalized. If society has to get wrecked in the process, that’s okay — that will just make it easier to “build back better” to their advantage, or so their operating algorithm dictates. The left does not think past its own algorithms.
The “democracy” cultists are foremost against freedom of speech, because speech is what distinguishes human beings among the rest of the animal kingdom, and if you allow it, human beings are liable to develop ideas — ideas being the product of language — and especially ideas that make the “democracy” cultists uncomfortable. For instance, the idea that the “democracy” cultists don’t deserve the power they crave because they are dishonest, unscrupulous, and sadistic. Can’t have people thinking that, or saying it out-loud.
~Snip~
When Mr. Trump miraculously survived manifold attempts to stuff him in prison via lawfare and then, attempted murder, and managed to get re-elected, he put an end to the censorship shenanigans in government. That, in turn, became inconvenient to the “democracy” cultists in Europe who were, apparently, not busy enough destroying their own countries’ cultures and their economies. They put extra effort into suppressing free expression among their citizen-subjects: serious jail time for mean texts and mere casual statements on the street.
Now they are coming after the international speech platform “X,” liberated by Elon Musk three years ago at a $44-billion price. The European Commission, a body of unelected bureaucrats under the EU, created a so-called Digital Services Act to deal with the threat of free speech. After a two-year-investigation, the commission has leveled a $140-million fine against “X” for a series of specious offenses, such as not meaningfully verifying account authenticity [blue check marks] eroding trust in verified content. Mr. Musk objected, naturally. Veep JD Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio, called it an “attack on American tech.” It’s more than that, of course. It’s an effort to wreck the company, which would eliminate the chief remaining public arena for free speech and genuine news worldwide.
~Snip~
We have enough trouble with the “democracy” cult here at home. The Norm Eisen Axis-of-Evil has enjoyed endless “funding” from the dark money spigots of George Soros, British hedge fund billionaire Christopher Hohn, and Shanghai-based American billionaire Neville Roy Singham. Once the money-flows are turned off, you will see a lot less nuisance litigation aimed at perverting the rule of law and destroying the country. Norm Eisen and his colleagues operate out of a set of foundations and NGOs, chiefly Brookings and the outfit Eisen founded called the States United Democracy Center. They are mere money-launderers.
The federal judiciary is the “democracy” cult’s remaining praetorian guard. The federal judges, especially the Obama and Biden appointed ones, are making sure that Lawfare ninjas won’t be prosecuted for any crimes. The two latest examples: James Comey, case dismissed on procedural issues (for now) on his charge of lying to Congress. And New York AG Leticia James, let off the hook on a mortgage fraud rap by a federal grand jury in the Eastern District of Virginia, probably a case of “jury nullification” and probably due to race — after the fashion of OJ Simpson skating on murder in 1995.
Unfortunately, the remedy of impeaching federal judges is unavailable due to the 60-vote majority required for removal in the Senate.


Commentary:
The Democrat party calling itself the Democratic party when there is nothing Democratic about it. Democrats define "Democracy" like The German “Democratic” Republic, or the “Democratic” Peoples Republic of North Korea.
Historically, Democracy meant government by consent, rooted in individual rights, free expression, and constitutional limits. This tradition—shaped by thinkers like John Locke, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and Alexis de Tocqueville—emphasized liberty, not state control.
But has begun to shift the meaning. In their rhetoric, “democracy” now implying economic equality enforced by the state, majoritarian rule unconstrained by constitutional checks and government as provider of outcomes, not protector of rights.
This Democrat Socialists of America (DSA) Marxist redefinition aligns more closely with collectivist systems than with classical liberal democracy. It echoes the logic of Rousseau’s “general will”, where dissent becomes illegitimate if it opposes the collective vision.
To DSA Progressive Elitist Marxists, Democracy means “Rule by the Democrats”.
That is rule by the elites who control the masses of plebeians
Trying to turn democracy into a bad word, like woke or equity? :auiqs.jpg:
 
I’ve said several times that democrats confuse the words democrat and democracy. They think if you take democrats away then democracy is taken away.
No

It is more like Republicans are puppets to the wealthy while Democrats defend the poor and working class
 
"Democracy", in the United States, exists only in so far as we vote for the people who represent us in Congress.
That's it. That's the full extent of our national democracy.

The state level is similar, except that we also vote for governors and certain other executive officers of our individual states.
Some states allow plebiscites for changes in the state constitutions and the creation of some state laws.
In this, the states are far more democratic that the United States. As intended.

Understanding this, the constant screams from the left about the destruction of our democracy by Trump, et al, is, at best, mindless nonsense.
Worse than being mindless nonsense ... it's a blatant LIE. And THEY are the ones destroying our democratic Republic.
 
No

It is more like Republicans are puppets to the wealthy while Democrats defend the poor and working class
OMG, the amazing Castro-era leftist propaganda lives on!
The Democrats are owned by billionaires ...
Thanks for most hilarious post of the day. :laughing0301:

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OMG, the amazing Castro-era leftist propaganda lives on!
The Democrats are owned by billionaires ...
Thanks for most hilarious post of the day. :laughing0301:

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OK Skippy

Prove me wrong
Show any recent Republican legislation that helps the poor and working class more than the wealthy
 
OK Skippy

Prove me wrong
Show any recent Republican legislation that helps the poor and working class more than the wealthy
I don't need to, Castro.
Common sense tells me you don't follow news very closely and get all your information from Rachel Maddow.
 
I don't need to, Castro.
Common sense tells me you don't follow news very closely and get all your information from Rachel Maddow.
Failure on your part Skippy

You can’t show single piece of legislation
 
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