yidnar
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3 trillion in private investments into the US economy in just 60 days .. more than double what Briben achieved in 4 yrs ..
When the Trump recession happens, how will republicans blame Biden?
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Huh?
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I have no idea what you are referring to
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Ended it?! With what?!
jc456
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won't happen, but tell us what the xiden accomplishment was that people ignored in the elections?
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TemplarKormac
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The question is:
This is a continuance of Biden's recession. How can you blame Trump for a recession Biden started?
jc456
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xiden is a demofk and never deserves blame. come on man.
TemplarKormac
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TK we are not in a recession by any stretch of the imagination
TemplarKormac
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Then you have your head in the deepest recesses of your rear.
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Hmm okay. So when did the recession start? What month and year? Surely you can answer that
Kruska
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Instead of just listening to your Liar in Chief - why don't you check out the internet to find out what tariffs the USA FACTUALLY imposes onto others!! - too lazy,?? too dumb??
1. Germany imposes 10% onto US cars and any other vehicles from the USA. - simply due to non-existent standards in regards to environmental protection in the USA, which therefore gives US companies a huge price advantage as compared to German companies that needed to invest billions to meet these requirements.
2. The USA imposes 25% onto Pickup Trucks, Vans and Mini-buses - so the USA is only and clearly protecting it's own manufacturers. But points fingers at Germany for imposing a 10% tariff, due to leveling out environmental costs.
Boeing - Airbus dispute under Trump
EU and US take decisive step to end aircraft dispute
European Commission Executive Vice-President Valdis Dombrovskis and US Trade Representative Katherine Tai reached an understanding relating to large civil aircraft.
Boeing complained about EU "subsidies" to Airbus, Airbus countered with US subsidies via the Pentagon to Boeing
Trump initiated and signed a "Tariff DEAL" with the EU in 2019, resulting in:
US importers having to pay tariffs for additionally US$ 2.2 Billion
Tariffs by Trump onto: aircraft, wines and spirits, dairy and cheese or machinery
EU importers having to pay tariffs for additionally US$ 1.1 Billion
Tariffs by the EU onto: aircraft, nuts, tobacco, spirits, handbags or tractors
So Trumps "great deal" cost the US economy 2.2 Billion - and the EU 1.1 billion
Factually for fuck'in nothing - since Airbus Civil aviation, has over taken Boeing Civil aviation in the Global market since 2019
Orders for 2023 Airbus = 2319
Orders for 2023 Boeing = 1456
And in Sept. 2024 Airbus even surpassed the Market Cap value of Boeing - resulting in a Boeing share drop of 38%
So instead of Tariffs - the USA needs to learn how to produce and offer products - that the customers want and expect!!!
Same goes for your lousy cars, etc. etc. etc.
Trump is factually trying to do what China did - China (attract) USA (forcing) foreign companies to produce in the USA so that Americans can learn/copy how to make QUALITY products that the world wants.
jknowgood
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Harris ran on fixing a broken economy, dumbass. Lol, what you say about that?
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lol I don’t give a shit. She’s completely irrelevant. Deflecting to her won’t save you.
jknowgood
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You voted for her, lol.
EvilCat Breath
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Did you get this from some degenerate democrat web site?Instead of just listening to your Liar in Chief - why don't you check out the internet to find out what tariffs the USA FACTUALLY imposes onto others!! - too lazy,?? too dumb??
1. Germany imposes 10% onto US cars and any other vehicles from the USA. - simply due to non-existent standards in regards to environmental protection in the USA, which therefore gives US companies a huge price advantage as compared to German companies that needed to invest billions to meet these requirements.
2. The USA imposes 25% onto Pickup Trucks, Vans and Mini-buses - so the USA is only and clearly protecting it's own manufacturers. But points fingers at Germany for imposing a 10% tariff, due to leveling out environmental costs.
Boeing - Airbus dispute under Trump
EU and US take decisive step to end aircraft dispute
European Commission Executive Vice-President Valdis Dombrovskis and US Trade Representative Katherine Tai reached an understanding relating to large civil aircraft.ec.europa.eu
Boeing complained about EU "subsidies" to Airbus, Airbus countered with US subsidies via the Pentagon to Boeing
Trump initiated and signed a "Tariff DEAL" with the EU in 2019, resulting in:
US importers having to pay tariffs for additionally US$ 2.2 Billion
Tariffs by Trump onto: aircraft, wines and spirits, dairy and cheese or machinery
EU importers having to pay tariffs for additionally US$ 1.1 Billion
Tariffs by the EU onto: aircraft, nuts, tobacco, spirits, handbags or tractors
So Trumps "great deal" cost the US economy 2.2 Billion - and the EU 1.1 billion
Factually for fuck'in nothing - since Airbus Civil aviation, has over taken Boeing Civil aviation in the Global market since 2019
Orders for 2023 Airbus = 2319
Orders for 2023 Boeing = 1456
And in Sept. 2024 Airbus even surpassed the Market Cap value of Boeing - resulting in a Boeing share drop of 38%
So instead of Tariffs - the USA needs to learn how to produce and offer products - that the customers want and expect!!!
Same goes for your lousy cars, etc. etc. etc.
Trump is factually trying to do what China did - China (attract) USA (forcing) foreign companies to produce in the USA so that Americans can learn/copy how to make QUALITY products that the world wants.
JohnDB
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We have been in a recession and stagflation for three years already.
We haven't really seen the accurate numbers out of the Government in a long time until now.
We've had 8%+ unemployment, double digit inflation, and falling GDP. The stock market hasn't really reflected that.
Technically, a recession is three consecutive quarters of negative growth. We've had that. Because in truth the negative growth was covered up by ballooning the ranks of Civil Service jobs and financing it with more federal debt. Which leads the US government into bankruptcy and insolvency.
Now, with federal computers being updated and networked to talk to each other....the economic indicators will be more clear and accurate and not need adjusting down three months or 9 months later.
The S&P is gonna fall another 700-800 until it hovers around 4700. Maybe a bit more if we get some good news soon. (Like Europe pulling its head out of its own buttocks)
Things are rough all over the world. Japan is in the dumpster, China too. (Which is why it wants to raid Taiwanese banks as well as chip factories)
Once all the dust has settled from these things and the tarrifs....
Then we can talk about economic growth.
We haven't really seen the accurate numbers out of the Government in a long time until now.
We've had 8%+ unemployment, double digit inflation, and falling GDP. The stock market hasn't really reflected that.
Technically, a recession is three consecutive quarters of negative growth. We've had that. Because in truth the negative growth was covered up by ballooning the ranks of Civil Service jobs and financing it with more federal debt. Which leads the US government into bankruptcy and insolvency.
Now, with federal computers being updated and networked to talk to each other....the economic indicators will be more clear and accurate and not need adjusting down three months or 9 months later.
The S&P is gonna fall another 700-800 until it hovers around 4700. Maybe a bit more if we get some good news soon. (Like Europe pulling its head out of its own buttocks)
Things are rough all over the world. Japan is in the dumpster, China too. (Which is why it wants to raid Taiwanese banks as well as chip factories)
Once all the dust has settled from these things and the tarrifs....
Then we can talk about economic growth.
Kruska
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Feel free to find some MAGA garbage & bullshit site - to counter these FACTS.
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