Zone1 When Christianity Just Doesn't Make Sense

[Arlette]

Yep. Looking at Trump's head, had Trump's head been turned a quarter inch EITHER WAY, any other way than exactly where it was the moment that bullet passed by, Trump's face or head would have been grazed badly injuring him and likely taking him out of the race.

Once can take that either of two ways:

1. Phenomenal luck to end all luck.
2. Divine intervention.

It is all in how one chooses to see it. I cannot prove you right nor wrong, I just happen to believe it was maybe a little of BOTH, as luck THAT GOOD almost never happens on its own! There were a MILLION possible scenarios and Trump just happened to live THE ONLY ONE where all he got was just a bit of bloody skin off the tip of his ear lobe.

By that logic Hitler holds the record for divine interventions.

 

[SweetSue92]

I mean don't get me wrong I'm still a believer but some things I just don't understand. Like if God knows everything and knew that Lucifer was going to bring sin into the world then why did He even create him in the first place? Couldn't Satan still repent if he wanted to and wouldn't God forgive him then?

First, it was worth it. All of it. Still worth it.

Second, there are multiple accounts in the Bible of people contributing to their own spiritual condemnation, even past the point of being saved. One that comes to mind is Pharoah in ancient Egypt. This is my understanding: you invite evil in, and keep inviting it, and then it takes over. And at some point God will say "all right then, you made your choice".

Also. God is in no way held hostage by our whim or will. He is not beholden to us for anything. Not even "forgiveness"

 

[Z99]

I mean don't get me wrong I'm still a believer but some things I just don't understand. Like if God knows everything and knew that Lucifer was going to bring sin into the world then why did He even create him in the first place? Couldn't Satan still repent if he wanted to and wouldn't God forgive him then?

It was/is God's plan for Satan to do everything that he is doing. It's Satan's job to torment (test) humanity. In the end, Satan will be cleansed and then he too will happily follow Jesus into God's Kingdom along with ALL who ever existed.

Philippians 2:10-11
so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

 

[Z99]

Angels cannot repent once they made their initial decision to accept God’s plan or to reject it.

Nowhere in the Bible.

 

[theHawk]

Nowhere in the Bible.

Feel free to point out in the Bible where it says fallen angels can be redeemed.

 

[theHawk]

It was/is God's plan for Satan to do everything that he is doing. It's Satan's job to torment (test) humanity. In the end, Satan will be cleansed and then he too will happily follow Jesus into God's Kingdom along with ALL who ever existed.

Philippians 2:10-11
so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

^^ more lies.

Revelation clearly states the dragon(Satan) will be destroyed along with hell itself in the lake of fire.


Satan already does confess that Jesus is Lord. That is how exorcists can command him during possessions, he ultimately must submit to the authority of God. He still hates God and rejects him though.

 

[Z99]

Feel free to point out in the Bible where it says fallen angels can be redeemed.

They can and WILL be redeemed!

Philippians 2:10-11 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

 

[Z99]

^^ more lies.

Revelation clearly states the dragon(Satan) will be destroyed along with hell itself in the lake of fire.

You lack understanding and discernment and you don't follow the Bible.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Satan already does confess that Jesus is Lord.

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iii. NotfooledbyW xxix to ttsor00001: The Republican Party’s Father which art in (H)eaven kills nearly half of all recently conceived baby fetuses every year due to natural causes during pregnancies that end in miscarriage, mostly during the first twenty weeks of pregnancy / or before “potential”. viability. nfbw 241123 Vwcjdm00029

With the above in mind; praying for the Godly and the Holy Kingdom of Jesus Christ to come to replace Western liberal multi cultural democracy in the United States of America is of course irrational.

But, placing the levers of ultimate US power and the nuclear war codes “unto” the pussy grabbing, unholy and ungodly Don Trump, is not only irrational; it is insane.

It is insane to rationalize that a “rational” earthly decision has been made by all the “mostly white, born again, Republican, “saved” future members of Jesus Christ’s anticipated thousands year rule on earth from the Kingdom’s Capitol in Jerusalem a couple weeks ago.

But Saint Hawk and Saint Crossbody voted or many did not vote at all as in Saint Papageorgio ‘s stubborn case (by default not by conviction) to put us in that realm of our current insanity where a US Congressmember and confirmed whoremonger was the first pick by Don Trump to be US Attorney General.

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[BreezeWood]

I mean don't get me wrong I'm still a believer but some things I just don't understand. Like if God knows everything and knew that Lucifer was going to bring sin into the world then why did He even create him in the first place? Couldn't Satan still repent if he wanted to and wouldn't God forgive him then?

the recorded history of the desert religions is far more suspect than the phony story of satan having any influence over humanity than simply an excuse for the behavior of those religions over time.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Philippians 2:10-11
so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father

Don Trump will drive more mortals away from Jesus than gather mortals to Him and his church.

Why do white evangelical Christians and nearly half of all Catholics put their trust in the Donald instead of Jesus?

 

[Meriweather]

Why do white evangelical Christians and nearly half of all Catholics put their trust in the Donald instead of Jesus?

That's like asking, Why do people put their trust in transportation instead of education? President Trump has been entrusted to guide the country. We entrust Jesus to guide our individual lives.

 

[Z99]

Don Trump will drive more mortals away from Jesus than gather mortals to Him and his church.

Why do white evangelical Christians and nearly half of all Catholics put their trust in the Donald instead of Jesus?

 

[Z99]

Satan already does confess that Jesus is Lord.

No he doesn't. Show the verse.

 

[theHawk]

But, placing the levers of ultimate US power and the nuclear war codes “unto” the pussy grabbing, unholy and ungodly Don Trump, is not only irrational; it is insane.

Biden is the insane one because he is instigating nuclear war with Russia,

President Trump is the one who wants to avoid war and have world peace.

You all claimed he would start WW3 in his first term, yet he turned out to be the only President to not start any new wars in the last 40 years.

These are the facts, and yet you still cannot accept it because you have severe TDS and can only view President Trump as “Hitler”.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Biden is the insane one because he is instigating nuclear war with Russia,

President Trump is the one who wants to avoid war and have world peace.

You all claimed he would start WW3 in his first term, yet he turned out to be the only President to not start any new wars in the last 40 years.

These are the facts, and yet you still cannot accept it because you have severe TDS and can only view President Trump as “Hitler”.

Biden didnt start anything. The genicidal Hitler friend of Don Trump started this. You are in the Hitler II Movement for sure.

We need a political movement to advance western liberal democracy and government tending to the advantage for the working class that cannot be cursed corrupted duped distorted and disrupted by the market place and whites mostly evangelical religion.

Putin has to love it. The Republican Party (for the billionaire and the baby fetus ) is tearing itself apart in the Kremlin’s gold gilded Maralago before assuming power.

'Huge fight': Warring factions inside Trump transition get into 'big blowup' at Mar-a-Lago

According to the Post, three different factions have formed — each with their own leaders and strategic goals. One of those camps is led by Trump's eldest son, Donald Jr., with Vice President-elect JD Vance on his side as well as "longtime MAGA warriors" like former Fox News prime-time host Tucker Carlson, Vance advisor Andy Surabian and ex-Trump White House official Cliff Sims.​

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Another faction is led by Trump White House chief of staff Susie Wiles, who also co-chaired Trump's 2024 campaign. Wiles' camp mostly includes her advisors and acolytes, like Trump campaign political director James Blair and deputy campaign officials Taylor Budowich and Robert Gabriel. And a third group consists of transition co-chair and Secretary of Education-designate Linda McMahon and alumni from the America First Policy Institute like Brooke Rollins (who was rumored as a finalist for chief of staff) and Keith Kellogg, who was former Vice President Mike Pence's national security advisor.​

 

[whutTHEYsay]

You all claimed he would start WW3 in his first term,

I didn’t. he’s a greedy billionaire. Putin is a greedy billionaire. America has been infected by greedy billionaires. greedy billionaires are too much in love with keeping and making money money money. money too much to promote a dude who is likely to start Armageddon..

 

[theHawk]

No he doesn't. Show the verse.

All knowlesdge is not in the Bible. Can you show the verse in the Bible that says Satan will repent? This is what you are claiming, yet there is no verse in the Bible what shows that.

Revelation chapter 20:

10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.

1 John 3:8​

8 The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work.

John 8:44​

44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies






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Exorcists who cast out demons, including the devil himself, are able to command the demons by the power of Christ. They are able to do this because of the authority of God and the fact that the demons recognize that authority and must submit to it.

In the Book of Job, God commands Satan to not lay a finger on Job himself but empowers him to ruin the rest of his life, Satan obeys.

Job 1:
12 The LORD said to Satan, “Very well, then, everything he has is in your power, but on the man himself do not lay a finger.” Then Satan went out from the presence of the LORD.

Matthew 4:
10 Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’”
11 Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him.

 

[Z99]

Can you show the verse in the Bible that says Satan will repent?

I have but you reject the scripture.

 

[theHawk]

Biden didnt start anything. The genicidal Hitler friend of Don Trump started this. You are in the Hitler II Movement for sure.

We need a political movement to advance western liberal democracy and government tending to the advantage for the working class that cannot be cursed corrupted duped distorted and disrupted by the market place and whites mostly evangelical religion.

Putin has to love it. The Republican Party (for the billionaire and the baby fetus ) is tearing itself apart in the Kremlin’s gold gilded Maralago before assuming power.

'Huge fight': Warring factions inside Trump transition get into 'big blowup' at Mar-a-Lago

According to the Post, three different factions have formed — each with their own leaders and strategic goals. One of those camps is led by Trump's eldest son, Donald Jr., with Vice President-elect JD Vance on his side as well as "longtime MAGA warriors" like former Fox News prime-time host Tucker Carlson, Vance advisor Andy Surabian and ex-Trump White House official Cliff Sims.​

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Another faction is led by Trump White House chief of staff Susie Wiles, who also co-chaired Trump's 2024 campaign. Wiles' camp mostly includes her advisors and acolytes, like Trump campaign political director James Blair and deputy campaign officials Taylor Budowich and Robert Gabriel. And a third group consists of transition co-chair and Secretary of Education-designate Linda McMahon and alumni from the America First Policy Institute like Brooke Rollins (who was rumored as a finalist for chief of staff) and Keith Kellogg, who was former Vice President Mike Pence's national security advisor.​

You really are a retard.

The civil war in Ukraine was started during Obama. When the US State Department lead by Victoria Nuland and John Kerry installed a puppet regime in 2014. That started a civil war in Ukraine and when they started killing ethnic Russians, Russia got involved as they always do when people start attacking Russian people.

Biden said himself arming Ukraine with our tanks and missiles would start WW3, yet here he is doing it now.

He is a maniac that wants to punish America for rejecting him and Kamala. And you are cheerleading it all.


Have you renounced Biden giving Ukraine missiles to launch into Russia? No, you haven’t and you won’t because you are a warmongering asswipe just like John Bolton and Dick Cheney.