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A photo emerged of a GOP lawmaker who last week downplayed the Capitol siege and compared the rioters to tourists barricading the House doors with furniture on January 6.

Rep. Andrew Clyde said during a House oversight committee hearing on Wednesday that it was a "bald-faced lie" to call the riot an insurrection. He said the riot, in which hundreds of Trump supporters breached the Capitol, resembled a "normal tourist visit."

After Clyde's comments, a photographer shared a photo he had taken of Clyde using furniture to barricade the House against rioters trying to force their way in to disrupt the certification of President Joe Biden's election victory. Several people died in the riot.
so what
Hey dope...Clyde is barricading himself against "tourists"
 

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Definition of insurrection​


: an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government.


January 6th meets that standard.
where

Where what?
Where what on January 6?

You mean the insurrecti

Definition of insurrection​


: an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government.


January 6th meets that standard.

From your link:

"REVOLT and INSURRECTION imply an armed uprising that quickly fails or succeeds"

Here's more info defining the scope of the term "insurrection" and whether a particular event is accurately characterized as such, from legal dictionaries that are recognized as authoritative by courts, and prevailing federal court cases on this point:

From Black's Law Dictionary (11th ed. 2019)

  • insurrection : "A violent revolt against an oppressive authority, usu. a government."

“Insurrection is distinguished from rout, riot, and offense connected with mob violence by the fact that in insurrection there is an organized and armed uprising against authority or operations of government[.]” 77 C.J.S. Riot; Insurrection § 29, at 579 (1994).​
  • insurgent n. : "Someone who, for political purposes, engages in armed hostility against an established government."

  • armed adj. : "1. Equipped with a weapon <an armed robber>. 2. Involving the use of a weapon <armed robbery>"

Prevailing federal court cases defining "insurrection":

"[T]he word insurrection means ‘(1) a violent uprising by a group or movement (2) acting for the specific purpose of overthrowing the constituted government and seizing its powers." Pan Am. World Airways, Inc. v. Aetna Cas. & Sur. Co., 505 F.2d 989, 1018 (2d Cir. 1974) (holding that armed offensive, destructive demonstrations and threats of violence by the fedayeen in Jordan was not an "insurrection" because there was no objective to violently overthrow the government and seize power, but rather, amounted to severe unrest intended to put pressure on King Hussein and the Jordanian government).

"To constitute an insurrection [] there must have been a movement accompanied by actions specifically intended to overthrow the constituted government and to take possession of the inherent powers thereof. As the insurrection develops into an affair of greater magnitude, so that the insurgents come into de facto control of a definite region of the country, the insurrection may be spoken of as a ‘rebellion’. If the insurrection or rebellion proceeds to the attainment of its objective, viz., the overthrow of the old constituted government and the establishment of a new one in its place, then the movement, retroactively, will be dignified by the characterization of a ‘revolution.’" Home Ins. Co. of New York v. Davila, 212 F.2d 731, 736 (1st Cir. 1954)

. . . . .

In sum, a brief incident of civil disorder that erupts spontaneously by certain members of a larger political gathering, consisting of people who are not armed or organized with the specific intent to violently overthrow the established government and seize its powers, does not meet the definition of an "insurrection." It may be a riot, to be sure, but not an insurrection. Otherwise, countless events would be treated as "insurrections" each year, particularly during the past couple of years.
You would think that those same people squalling about the "mostly peaceful " protest at the Capital on January 6th would remember the 100's of protesters that stormed the Hart Senate building and breached the police line trying to break in to the Supreme Court trying to stop a new Supreme Court Justice from being confirmed. What's that familiar smell? Just the stench of democrat hypocrisy wafting over the nation.
 

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. Chansley has been in jail for more than 4 months. He’s not accused of assaulting an officer, vandalism, or any serious crime.
Chansley is charged:

Civil Disorder; Obsrtuction of an Official Proceeding; Entering and Remaining in a Restricted Building; Disorderly and Disruptive Conduct in a Restricted Building; Violent Entry and Disorderly Conduct in a Capitol Building; Parading, Demonstrating, or Picketing in a Capitol Building

Some very serious, but his lawyer is pleading mental illness on Chansley's behalf. We'll have to wait until November to find out.

And again, just your lack of doing your homework and probably not a purposeful lie


The 'QAnon Shaman' is in plea negotiations after being diagnosed with mental illnesses, including schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, report says​

 

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Chansley is charged:

Civil Disorder; Obsrtuction of an Official Proceeding; Entering and Remaining in a Restricted Building; Disorderly and Disruptive Conduct in a Restricted Building; Violent Entry and Disorderly Conduct in a Capitol Building; Parading, Demonstrating, or Picketing in a Capitol Building

Some very serious, but his lawyer is pleading mental illness on Chansley's behalf. We'll have to wait until November to find out.

And again, just your lack of doing your homework and probably not a purposeful lie
Disorderly conduct is a misdemeanor. The violent entry was through open doors. All bullshit. They ( Pelosi et al) are making themselves look like fools.
 

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Disorderly conduct is a misdemeanor. The violent entry was through open doors. All bullshit. They ( Pelosi et al) are making themselves look like fools.
Not points to debate. Chansley will most likely spend some time in a mental health institution. It was obvious to me at the time that something wasn't quite right with him.
 

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Not points to debate. Chansley will most likely spend some time in a mental health institution. It was obvious to me at the time that something wasn't quite right with him.
Or they can let him lose in the nearest Democratic shithole. Maybe DC.
 

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Just because the Wehrmacht.....er, Democrats, need a way to hide the year-long riots and anarchy they instituted is no reason to believe the propaganda about January 6th.
Instead, remember that the Democrats lie about everything.

Same for their state media.


“BOMBSHELL VIDEO Emerges of Capitol Police Giving the OK to Enter the Capitol on January 6th

Exclusive video obtained by American Greatness shows USCP officers talking with January 6 protestors inside the building that day, giving the ok to enter and peacefully protest:

Julie Kelly reports: A newly-obtained video shows United States Capitol Police officers speaking with several January 6 protestors—including Jacob Chansley, the so-called “Q shaman”—inside the Capitol that afternoon.

The clip directly contradicts DOJ complaint that claims USCP told this group, which included Jacob Chansley, to leave. Chansley has been in jail for more than 4 months. He’s not accused of assaulting an officer, vandalism, or any serious crime.


#BREAKING!

Exclusive video obtained by American Greatness shows USCP officers talking with January 6 protestors inside the building that day, giving the ok to enter and peacefully protest.

From @julie_kelly2 @theamgreatness pic.twitter.com/Tl0iulJ8UZ

— SCUBA MIKE (@scuba2024) May 16, 2021

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And a real 'insurrection'.....


Completely ignored behind the pretense that this was an insurrection, a rebellion, an attack on democracy itself, was the real such attack on America: The three day siege of the White House in May of 2020, occupation of Lafayette Park, and the burning of the historic St. John's Church.



“More than 60 Secret Service officers and special agents sustained multiple injuries in three days worth of violent clashes stemming from protests demanding justice for George Floyd in Washington, D.C.



The uprisings overflowed from Lafayette Park and continued near the White House on Saturday night and early into Sunday morning. Protesters in the area had taken to the streets since Friday to condemn police brutality.”

At least 60 Secret Service members injured during George Floyd protests in DC



“St. John's Church Near White House Set on Fire ….fire crews were able to get to the scene to save the historic structure where every president since James Madison has attendended services,…” St. John's Church Near White House Set on Fire










First time a President had to be evacuated from the White House since the War of 1812.



Here is MSNBC reporting on that ‘mostly peaceful protest” attacking the WhiteHouse


“….folks trying to make a point of being peaceful….”



Peaceful protesters jumping the barriers at the White House.

Time to crucify the key RumpBots who incited and engaged in Insurrection on January 6, 2021, against the lawful authority of the United States.
 

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Definition of insurrection​


: an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government.


January 6th meets that standard.
if that were true then SOMEONE would have been charged with it.
 

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Time to crucify the key RumpBots who incited and engaged in Insurrection on January 6, 2021, against the lawful authority of the United States.
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An angry TRUMPmob storming the Capitol and attempting to capture Congress members and Mike Pence
Driving Congress out of the building for seven hours and preventing them from certifying a new President
Attacking Capitol Police with fists, kicks, bear spray, clubs, fire extinguishers

INSURRECTION

No one is as left wing as I am, and the capital occupation was definitely not an insurrection.
Nor was it unwarranted.
While I think the claim of voter fraud is silly, congress is a bunch of lying criminals who should have been protested decades ago.
The war on drugs is totally illegal, congress lied to cause the war with Iraq, the 3 strikes laws are illegal, all federal gun control is illegal, etc.
 

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Yeah, opened with a battering ram! F every last one of them. They’re getting off easy.
38% of the protestors were let in. FACT.
 

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No one is as left wing as I am, and the capital occupation was definitely not an insurrection.
Nor was it unwarranted.
While I think the claim of voter fraud is silly, congress is a bunch of lying criminals who should have been protested decades ago.
The war on drugs is totally illegal, congress lied to cause the war with Iraq, the 3 strikes laws are illegal, all federal gun control is illegal, etc.

The sad part is Trump fed his mob a lie.
First that the election had been stolen
Second that Congress could overturn the EVs of the states

They believed him to the point of becoming enraged and trying to capture Congress members and Pence himself
 

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The sad part is Trump fed his mob a lie.
First that the election had been stolen
Second that Congress could overturn the EVs of the states

They believed him to the point of becoming enraged and trying to capture Congress members and Pence himself
When watching Pelosi and Biden we see Pelosi is quickly walking like with wide eyes looking like an an insane woman at a mental institution with Biden walking like a very old mentally deficient man at a retirement center home.
 

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When watching Pelosi and Biden we see Pelosi is quickly walking like with wide eyes looking like an an insane woman at a mental institution with Biden walking like a very old mentally deficient man at a retirement center home.
what does that have to do with what I posted?
 

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