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[cnm]

But rather than mess around trying to force people to buy insurance, the government will just buy it on their behalf and tax them for it. This is called "Medicare". The insurance companies get our money, either way.

Why would the government buy insurance for its citizens rather than healthcare?

 

[dblack]

But rather than mess around trying to force people to buy insurance, the government will just buy it on their behalf and tax them for it. This is called "Medicare". The insurance companies get our money, either way.

Why would the government buy insurance for its citizens rather than healthcare?

They're required to. It was a compromise to get the original Medicare bill passed.

 

[cnm]

So that needs to change, Shirley?

 

[airplanemechanic]

I think Congress should have the same healthcare as Native American Indians have.

Fair is fair.

Yea, I agree. What is Elizabeth Warrens health care plan, anyway?

 

[Flopper]

If you're talking about the constitutionality of implied powers vs enumerated powers, that was settled in 1791, 1816, and thousands of times since then.

as per the 10th amendment no it hasnt,,,

Explain how the 10th amendment supports your contention.

thats simple,,,just read it,,,

it very clearly says delegated powers not implied,,,

To delegate means to entrust, to assign powers regardless of whether those powers are expressly stated or implied. To delegate powers makes no judgement as to whether those powers are expressly stated or implied.

So when the ten amendment says, "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution," it means means powers not assigned to the United States by the Constitution. It does not mean powers not expressly stated.

The founding fathers were well aware of the meaning of delegating powers versus delegating expressly stated powers. They were discussed in the Federalist papers. So it is no accident that the 10th amendment reads powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution

James Madison argued against using the wording expressly stated "as it would force Congress to do nothing in times of need or to work around the term, the former disarming Congress and the latter forcing Congress to disregard the Constitution." The congress agreed and the amendment submitted for ratification would include the term " delegated powers" and not expressed stated powers.

The Original Meaning of the Tenth Amendment and "Expressly" Delegated Power | Tenth Amendment Center

Delegated powers are government powersspecifically outlined in the U.S. Constitution. Thesepowers limit what Congress can do, and also definewhat Congress is in charge of regulating.Jul 31, 2016
Delegated Powers - Definition, Examples, of Congress and Government

Delegated Powers - Definition, Examples, of Congress and Government

I don't think you understand implied powers which come primarily from
Article 1:Section 8: Clause 18:
To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

The legitimacy of Implied Powers comes from this clause as well as the Taxing and Spending clause, and the Common Commerce clause.

Conservative are quick to condemn implied powers but what would America look like if we only recognized enumerated powers. For starters there would be no IRS, SEC, INS, CDC, FDA or most of the alphabet soup of agencies. There would be no DEA but we wouldn't miss it because there would be no federal drug laws. Nor would there be federal banking rules, FDIC, or Federal Reserve. There would be only 4 cabinet positions. There would be no National Parks and Moments and no federal environmental protection laws, no federal highways including interstates, no federal funding for disaster release. And of course there is no enumerated powers in the constitution for national emergencies. The president could not respond to a nuclear attack without convening congress and asking for an act of war. Of course we know that would not be necessary since there would be no congress or a military to respond.