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We see all to often bill's languish forever in the Senate and it got me to wonder what would happen if a president essentially "tabled" a bill?
Has it ever happened ?
Has it ever happened ?
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We see all to often bill's languish forever in the Senate and it got me to wonder what would happen if a president essentially "tabled" a bill?
Has it ever happened ?
That is a pocket veto.
/—-/ If the President refused to sign or veto, its called a pocket veto.We see all to often bill's languish forever in the Senate and it got me to wonder what would happen if a president essentially "tabled" a bill?
Has it ever happened ?
That makes sense. Dunno if I was taught that in school. I certainly don't remember it.We see all to often bill's languish forever in the Senate and it got me to wonder what would happen if a president essentially "tabled" a bill?
Has it ever happened ?
How A Bill Becomes A Law | U.S. Representative Alan Lowenthal
THE PRESIDENT
The bill is sent to the President for review.
- A bill becomes law if signed by the President or if not signed within 10 days and Congress is in session.
Truman had 50 or 60 pocket vetoes while in office. So yeah, it has happened before! Truman was famous for it!Has it ever happened ?
Truman had 50 or 60 pocket vetoes while in office. So yeah, it has happened before! Truman was famous for it!Has it ever happened ?
/——/ Back in the 1960s we were taught that in Civics class.That makes sense. Dunno if I was taught that in school. I certainly don't remember it.We see all to often bill's languish forever in the Senate and it got me to wonder what would happen if a president essentially "tabled" a bill?
Has it ever happened ?
How A Bill Becomes A Law | U.S. Representative Alan Lowenthal
THE PRESIDENT
The bill is sent to the President for review.
- A bill becomes law if signed by the President or if not signed within 10 days and Congress is in session.
I remember civics pretty clearly just not that bit of info. May have been glossed over./——/ Back in the 1960s we were taught that in Civics class.That makes sense. Dunno if I was taught that in school. I certainly don't remember it.We see all to often bill's languish forever in the Senate and it got me to wonder what would happen if a president essentially "tabled" a bill?
Has it ever happened ?
How A Bill Becomes A Law | U.S. Representative Alan Lowenthal
THE PRESIDENT
The bill is sent to the President for review.
- A bill becomes law if signed by the President or if not signed within 10 days and Congress is in session.
But were they signed when Congress returned?Truman had 50 or 60 pocket vetoes while in office. So yeah, it has happened before! Truman was famous for it!Has it ever happened ?
Not where I was. I find this very interesting. But in actuality, it is just delaying the signing or vetoing until Congress meets again, right?/——/ Back in the 1960s we were taught that in Civics class.That makes sense. Dunno if I was taught that in school. I certainly don't remember it.We see all to often bill's languish forever in the Senate and it got me to wonder what would happen if a president essentially "tabled" a bill?
Has it ever happened ?
How A Bill Becomes A Law | U.S. Representative Alan Lowenthal
THE PRESIDENT
The bill is sent to the President for review.
- A bill becomes law if signed by the President or if not signed within 10 days and Congress is in session.
That had to piss Congress off!Truman had 50 or 60 pocket vetoes while in office. So yeah, it has happened before! Truman was famous for it!Has it ever happened ?
Okay, I'll bite. What is a Christmas Tree Bill? Love this thread. Learning a lot. Thank you!The other aspect of a signed veto is the president has to include why he is vetoing and what changes would make the bill acceptable, which invites a Christmas tree bill.
Okay, I'll bite. What is a Christmas Tree Bill? Love this thread. Learning a lot. Thank you!The other aspect of a signed veto is the president has to include why he is vetoing and what changes would make the bill acceptable, which invites a Christmas tree bill.
So, in essence, it's changes to the bill plus bribes for individual states.Okay, I'll bite. What is a Christmas Tree Bill? Love this thread. Learning a lot. Thank you!The other aspect of a signed veto is the president has to include why he is vetoing and what changes would make the bill acceptable, which invites a Christmas tree bill.
The changes are added to get the bill passed and then little and not so little presents for the districts and states are tacked on to get the necessary votes. That is a Christmas tree bill.
No, Congress would have revote them and the usual process for an override(2/3 of each house) is not allowed.But were they signed when Congress returned?Truman had 50 or 60 pocket vetoes while in office. So yeah, it has happened before! Truman was famous for it!Has it ever happened ?
So, in essence, it's changes to the bill plus bribes for individual states.Okay, I'll bite. What is a Christmas Tree Bill? Love this thread. Learning a lot. Thank you!The other aspect of a signed veto is the president has to include why he is vetoing and what changes would make the bill acceptable, which invites a Christmas tree bill.
The changes are added to get the bill passed and then little and not so little presents for the districts and states are tacked on to get the necessary votes. That is a Christmas tree bill.
What do you think Trump will do? Just leave it as a veto and dems take to the SCOTUS on grounds of unconstitutional reasons?