What will happen if Trump go to jail befote inauguration ?

[Crepitus]

Thanks for admitting it was all political

That is not what I said at all.

You are hallucinating as usual.

 

[para bellum]

For all intents and purposes, pardons do. They restore your right to vote and possess firearms. It is as if the conviction never occurred. Commutations do not do that.

It is probably more accurate to call it a judicial commutation, because there may be civil disabilities imposed. That's not entirely descriptive either, because a commutation is a reduction of a sentence, and unconditional discharge is just no sentence to begin with.

The only thing that makes it as if a conviction never occurred is an expungement. That literally deletes the record.

In pardons, the civil disabilities are removed but the conviction remains.

 

[struth]

That is not what I said at all.

You are hallucinating as usual.

Sure it was, you highlighted you only did it to get under republicans skin

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It is probably more accurate to call it a judicial commutation, because there may be civil disabilities imposed. That's not entirely descriptive either, because a commutation is a reduction of a sentence, and unconditional discharge is just no sentence to begin with.

The only thing that makes it as if a conviction never occurred is an expungement. That literally deletes the record.

In pardons, the civil disabilities are removed but the conviction remains.

I'm sorry, but I believe you are incorrect. I was only addressing pardons and commutations. I was not discussing judicial commutations as you were.

"Its practical effect is the restoration of civil rights and statutory disabilities of (e.g., firearm rights, occupational licensing) associated with a past criminal conviction."

Frequently Asked Questions

www.justice.gov

 

[para bellum]

I'm sorry, but I believe you are incorrect. I was only addressing pardons and commutations. I was not discussing judicial commutations as you were.

I had called the sentence "essentially a judicial pardon".

The fact that is may still impose civil disabilities, differentiates it from a normal pardon and makes it closer to commutation.

"Its practical effect is the restoration of civil rights and statutory disabilities of (e.g., firearm rights, occupational licensing) associated with a past criminal conviction."

Frequently Asked Questions

www.justice.gov

Yes, pardons remove civil disabilities, but do not remove the conviction. Only an expungement removes a conviction.

 

[jknowgood]

Nope. But he will get a sentence of some sort , making him a convicted felon

But still your president, you're going to amuse me for the next 4 years!

 

[jknowgood]

Well they are an emotional bunch of blowhards

I'm disappointed, I didn't get to see them running around in pussy hats yelling at the sky!

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Unconditional discharge means no penalties.

Pardons don't erase or vacate convictions, they just remove any penalty. They do not expunge.

Same thing the judge is doing here, it just has a different label.

No, the discharge removes nothing already in the law.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I had called the sentence "essentially a judicial pardon".

The fact that is may still impose civil disabilities, differentiates it from a normal pardon and makes it closer to commutation.

Yes, pardons remove civil disabilities, but do not remove the conviction. Only an expungement removes a conviction.

I guess you didn't read the link. Oh, well!

 

[Seymour Flops]

How will Judge Merchan's bailiff make it through President Trump's Secret Service detail?

 

[Road Runner]

Nope. But he will get a sentence of some sort ,

I highly doubt that even that's going to happen.

 

[para bellum]

I guess you didn't read the link. Oh, well!

I read it, what part do you think I am missing?

 

[para bellum]

No, the discharge removes nothing already in the law.

Just the penalties associated with the crime, simp.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Just the penalties associated with the crime, simp.

Leaving the restrictions in the law still intact.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Seymour cannot 'contextualize' besides unable to apply his night moisturizer in a timely and most seemly manner.

 

[kyzr]

Shhhh, ya OCD inflicted grammar Nazi. It's a public board.
Dumbass

I'm sorry to agree with the admiral, but grammar and spelling are important writing skills.
It's not that difficult to proof-read your post before and/or after posting.
My pet peeve are those posters who just food fight and name-call or insult instead of posting useful topic related information.
So please excuse the admiral and I for wanting to elevate the discussions above the 3rd grade level writing skill, we're old old school.

 

[eagle1462010]

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Nope. But he will get a sentence of some sort , making him a convicted felon

The verdict will be overturned.

 

[j-mac]

A New York court has scheduled for January 10 the sentencing of US President-elect Donald Trump in the case of porn actress Stormy Daniels, concerning the falsification of documents. Thus, the decision will be announced 10 days before his inauguration, which will take place on January 20.

Oh poor dear.....Not going to happen....You'll have to do better than trying to pursue your fantasy dreams in a thread....

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The verdict will be overturned.

Not by SCOTUS, not by NY courts.