What will be the fate of the party Elon starts called the "America party"?

[Votto]

Elon Musk vows to start a new political party after Trump feud. Here's why that's harder than it sounds.

Billionaire Elon Musk is floating a new political party dubbed the "America Party" — but the idea could face major hurdles.

www.cbsnews.com

As billionaire Elon Musk feuds with President Trump over his signature tax and domestic policy legislation, Musk has reupped his calls to launch a new political party — a daunting task even for the wealthiest person on Earth.

Musk first floated launching a third party, dubbed the "America Party," earlier this month, part of a nasty back-and-forth between the president and the Tesla CEO that marked the likely end of their political alliance. Musk raised the idea again this week as lawmakers raced to send the One Big Beautiful Bill Act to Mr. Trump's desk — and this time, Musk put a time limit on the plan.

"If this insane spending bill passes, the America Party will be formed the next day," Musk wrote in a post on X Monday evening, hours before the bill passed the Senate on Tuesday and headed back to the House. "Our country needs an alternative to the Democrat-Republican uniparty so that the people actually have a VOICE."

So, assuming the bill passes, which I think it will, what will be the fate of Elon's party?

Personally, I don't blame those wanting another party as both parties have allowed the largest debt to accumulate in US history, threatening the viability of the very Republic they swore and oath to defend. There really is no excuse for it.

On the other hand, Elon is out of his element. Sure, he is rich, but his political acumen is horrible. He simply does not come across well and I think he thinks he knows more about how to sway political power than he really does.

Personally, I think this the wrong approach. The problem is not the party; the problem is centralized power. Why? Because power corrupts. If you start this other party, it will in no time be infiltrated and corrupted, just as bad, if not worse.

That is why I support the Article V movement, to give power back to the states as it is taken away from the centralized economic planners.

U.S. Constitution Threatened as Article V Convention Movement Nears Success

www.commoncause.org

I think it a long shot to succeed, but I think it really is the only hope for the Republic not to implode fiscally.

 

[BluesLegend]

I think it really is the only hope for the Republic not to implode fiscally.

That ship has sailed. We are already past the point of no return and there's no sign the borrowing is even slowing down. The next shoe to drop will be printing money and devaluing the dollar. AKA government stealing everyone's savings to feed it's spending habit. Remember, these are ADDICTS.

 

[Votto]

That ship has sailed. We are already past the point of no return and there's no sign the borrowing is even slowing down. The next shoe to drop will be printing money and devaluing the dollar. AKA government stealing everyone's savings to feed it's spending habit. Remember, these are ADDICTS.

Do you really think there will be a ground swell of support for a party to subdue government spending?

Most Americans only want free things along with reduced taxation.

In other words, most are stupid as a rock.

That is why the Article V amendment is so brilliant. Most voters only care about voting for the President, and have no idea even who their state representatives even are who have the power to call a Constitutional convention among the states. All you need is a sizable group who care about fiscal viability voting in key states to start the process of amending the Constitution, so the states can then impose a Constitutional amendment to balance the federal deficit. In fact, most Americans probably do not even know that the states can amend the Constitution themselves because it has never been done, but the provision was placed in the Constitution by the Founders for a reason, and that reason is here.

Congress certainly will not impose these restrictions on themselves, no matter what party may be in control.

And I get it, things are too far gone, but why not try anyway?

Do we just give up?

 

[BluesLegend]

Do you really think there will be a ground swell of support for a party to subdue government spending?

LOL nope!

 

[JGalt]

Elon Musk vows to start a new political party after Trump feud. Here's why that's harder than it sounds.

Billionaire Elon Musk is floating a new political party dubbed the "America Party" — but the idea could face major hurdles.

www.cbsnews.com

As billionaire Elon Musk feuds with President Trump over his signature tax and domestic policy legislation, Musk has reupped his calls to launch a new political party — a daunting task even for the wealthiest person on Earth.

Musk first floated launching a third party, dubbed the "America Party," earlier this month, part of a nasty back-and-forth between the president and the Tesla CEO that marked the likely end of their political alliance. Musk raised the idea again this week as lawmakers raced to send the One Big Beautiful Bill Act to Mr. Trump's desk — and this time, Musk put a time limit on the plan.

"If this insane spending bill passes, the America Party will be formed the next day," Musk wrote in a post on X Monday evening, hours before the bill passed the Senate on Tuesday and headed back to the House. "Our country needs an alternative to the Democrat-Republican uniparty so that the people actually have a VOICE."

So, assuming the bill passes, which I think it will, what will be the fate of Elon's party?

Personally, I don't blame those wanting another party as both parties have allowed the largest debt to accumulate in US history, threatening the viability of the very Republic they swore and oath to defend. There really is no excuse for it.

On the other hand, Elon is out of his element. Sure, he is rich, but his political acumen is horrible. He simply does not come across well and I think he thinks he knows more about how to sway political power than he really does.

Personally, I think this the wrong approach. The problem is not the party; the problem is centralized power. Why? Because power corrupts. If you start this other party, it will in no time be infiltrated and corrupted, just as bad, if not worse.

That is why I support the Article V movement, to give power back to the states as it is taken away from the centralized economic planners.

U.S. Constitution Threatened as Article V Convention Movement Nears Success

www.commoncause.org

I think it a long shot to succeed, but I think it really is the only hope for the Republic not to implode fiscally.

I can tell you the fate of this "America Party" right now. Been that, done there already.

 

[Votto]

LOL nope!

Which is why the Elon plan of another party will fail.

The guy may be brilliant in other areas, but politics and human nature is not one of them.

Again, the Article V movement is a way for the minority to maybe save the Republic.

Looking at history, the majority did not want to revolt against the British crown either.

 

[TNHarley]

Maybe REAL MAGA would go to that party, since the R party(including the prez) is nothing but a bunch of democrats anyways.

 

[ColonelAngus]

It will go nowhere.

 

[Votto]

Maybe REAL MAGA would go to that party, since the R party(including the prez) is nothing but a bunch of democrats anyways.

I highly doubt that, but Ok.^^^^^^

The Aricle V is a way to keep all of MAGA together.

 

[Donald H]

Elon Musk vows to start a new political party after Trump feud. Here's why that's harder than it sounds.

Billionaire Elon Musk is floating a new political party dubbed the "America Party" — but the idea could face major hurdles.

www.cbsnews.com

As billionaire Elon Musk feuds with President Trump over his signature tax and domestic policy legislation, Musk has reupped his calls to launch a new political party — a daunting task even for the wealthiest person on Earth.

Musk first floated launching a third party, dubbed the "America Party," earlier this month, part of a nasty back-and-forth between the president and the Tesla CEO that marked the likely end of their political alliance. Musk raised the idea again this week as lawmakers raced to send the One Big Beautiful Bill Act to Mr. Trump's desk — and this time, Musk put a time limit on the plan.

"If this insane spending bill passes, the America Party will be formed the next day," Musk wrote in a post on X Monday evening, hours before the bill passed the Senate on Tuesday and headed back to the House. "Our country needs an alternative to the Democrat-Republican uniparty so that the people actually have a VOICE."

So, assuming the bill passes, which I think it will, what will be the fate of Elon's party?

Personally, I don't blame those wanting another party as both parties have allowed the largest debt to accumulate in US history, threatening the viability of the very Republic they swore and oath to defend. There really is no excuse for it.

On the other hand, Elon is out of his element. Sure, he is rich, but his political acumen is horrible. He simply does not come across well and I think he thinks he knows more about how to sway political power than he really does.

Personally, I think this the wrong approach. The problem is not the party; the problem is centralized power. Why? Because power corrupts. If you start this other party, it will in no time be infiltrated and corrupted, just as bad, if not worse.

That is why I support the Article V movement, to give power back to the states as it is taken away from the centralized economic planners.

U.S. Constitution Threatened as Article V Convention Movement Nears Success

www.commoncause.org

I think it a long shot to succeed, but I think it really is the only hope for the Republic not to implode fiscally.

Most probable:

1. Trump will try to make friends with hiim.

2. Trump will have him eliminated.

 

[TNHarley]

I highly doubt that, but Ok.

I do too. I just wanted to talk shit about MAGA.

 

[Votto]

I do too. I just wanted to talk shit about MAGA.

Well, you have had your fun, so off you go!!!

 

[Votto]

Most probable:

1. Trump will try to make friends with hiim.

2. Trump will have him eliminated.

You don't even understand what the Article V movement is, do you?



See guys, this is my point. Our adversaries only understand one thing, and that is Orange man is bad, or any other poor soul that may challenge DNC power. That is the extent of their mental capacity.

 

[initforme]

If it causes chaos in our politics. Im all for it.

 

[IM2]

If it were someone more credible and liked, the party might go somewhere.

 

[Donald H]

You don't even understand what the Article V movement is, do you?



See guys, this is my point. Our adversaries only understand one thing, and that is Orange man is bad, or any other poor soul that may challenge DNC power. That is the extent of their mental capacity.

Do I have to know article 5 to make a prediction. If so just ignore what I said.

How did any fascist regime handle a challenge to its power?

I probably should have said that the Trump regime is unstoppable now.

 

[Unkotare]

Do I have to know article 5 to make a prediction. If so just ignore what I said.

How did any fascist regime handle a challenge to its power?

I probably should have said that the Trump regime is unstoppable now.

Are you going to say "fascist" 1000 times in a row now, or will you switch back to "Nazi"?

 

[d0gbreath]

It will likely explode on the launch pad.

 

[task0778]

What will be the fate of the party Elon starts called the "America party"?​

First, the timing isn't quite right IMHO. Right now, there is little support for fiscal sanity but I think there could be at some point down the road. Might be awhile though, too many people do not want to face that problem even as it grows larger with each passing year. That 3rd party would have to start out fairly small, hopefully getting enough congressional seats to influence spending bills to be reduced.

 

[Donald H]

We only can know that a fascist regime can't permit political oppoition. Trump's only two choices on dealing with a challenger such as Musk is to become friends with him again, or eliminate him.

Musk will have a choice to abandon any challenge and he will be given many reasons why he should, by the regime.

The Demo party is not completely incapable. They have a record going back decades of fkng over the working class.