What to do with the $800 billion the illegal aliens send home?

[Mac-7]

They earned their money working hard. Take it out of the people hiring them.

Why dont you want to deport them?

 

[WorldWatcher]

The US has E-Verify

Its questionable how well it works

Correct, it can be improved. The current I-9 system is crap.

But that is a starting point at least

Agreed.

Still, confiscate all the wages and property of illegal aliens we catch on the job and deport them forthwith whether employer vetted them properly or not

And fine the employers at a rate of 100% of all compensation paid to illegal aliens.

WW

 

[Care4all]

“Sales tax”……WTF?
This thread is about income tax and FAIR SHARE

Sales tax is how States fund their governments off the backs of the poorer masses who do not earn enough to pay state or federal income tax. States like Florida, and Texas abuse the poor by funding their govt without an income tax, giving a tax break to the wealthier, and putting more on to the shoulders of the poor.....

 

[Coyote]

And if YOU are all about “reasonable,” you will not ignore the other half of the equation: what the illegals cost us, which is a NET cost of $150 billion a year.

So…what is the net result fueling your “reasonable” taxation of remittances plan? I merely presented the other part of the equation you didn’t factor in.

Did you see that meeting with the working class Chicagoans, furious with their prog mayor because he wants to raise taxes on them in order to fund more programs for illegals? How would YOU feel if you had a household income of $50,000 or so, trying your make a rent payment of $1200 on a modest apartment, dealing with groceries that cost 20% more than four years go, coming up with car insurance that is 50% higher, and cutting back on meat purchases, etc., and then see your taxes going to support illegal aliens?

You are placing the interest of foreigners who exploit our laws over that of hard-working, law-abiding Americans.

Why aren’t you hitting the people who employ them? Why do you continue to support the hiring of illegal immigrants? Why should taxpayers be left holding the bag because businesses want to circumvent labor laws and hire cheap labor?

 

[Foxfyre]

Yes, you read that right - the illegals, while costing us $150 billion a year, send home $800 billion a year. How should Trump use this to America’s benefit?

Option 1) Tax the remittances by 25%, thereby recapturing the fortune the illegals cost America taxpayers and use it to offset their costs

Option 2) Tax the remittances by 50%, thereby recapturing the fortune we spend on them AND using the balance to secure the border and pay for deportations of criminal aliens

Option 3) Block remittances entirely, which will hurt the originating country and pressure them to take back the illegals (as some countries have said they won’t), and use the money for border security, deportations, and more

https://www.weforum.org/stories/2023/02/remittances-money-world-bank/

A princely sum indeed. Enough maybe to pay Americans a bit more to do the hard labor some of the illegals do so there is zero justification for the illegals to be here at all.

 

[Lisa558]

We actually don’t need illegal workers….they are self-serving.
We need all 50 million sent home….Look at the bright-side, the noncontributing self-serving underground tax free black market economy they’ve built within our legitimate economy would collapse immediately….as planned…concurrently, opportunity for real Americans would open wide, wages for real Americans would skyrocket, education and healthcare would improve immediately, social services would improve for blacks, emergency services / first response would improve, auto and healthcare premiums would fall, communities would be safer and cleaner, jails and prisons would empty out….Do you need me to continue?
Tell us how the aforementioned couldn’t/wouldn’t happen.

The price of my parents’ house, once all the illegals who are jammed together in houses meant for a single family, and their broken down cars aren’t parked all over the place, and the nearby school wasn’t 70% free lunches and half ESOL, the value would go up.

 

[Lisa558]

So…what is the net result fueling your “reasonable” taxation of remittances plan? I merely presented the other part of the equation you didn’t factor in.



Why aren’t you hitting the people who employ them? Why do you continue to support the hiring of illegal immigrants? Why should taxpayers be left holding the bag because businesses want to circumvent labor laws and hire cheap labor?

What a retarded post!

 

[WorldWatcher]

We will just go after the illegals. Legal immigrants are allowed to send money home without taxation.

And you're going to do this how?

All citizens would be "papers please". That's a truley small government solution.

WW

 

[Kondor3]

Legal and illegal immigrants are sending money to their home countries . Your plan is unworkable.

Not really...

Just make it a requirement on the US side of the transaction to check immigration status on-the-spot...

If you're a US citizen or you have a valid Green Card or valid Visa checked in real-time then there is no surcharge...

And that status-check is documented on the transaction's electronic record and held for a while in electronic archives...

Subject to auditing if-and-as desired by the Feds...

Fail to produce the appropriate documentation at transaction-time and you can still send the money...

It's just that you get hit for a 25% or 50% surcharge...

The transmitting agent keeps half of the surcharge and the Feds get the other half...

That'll make both the transmitting agent AND the Feds happy and it accomplishes the goal without a lot of new overhead...

 

[Mac-7]

Hello! How do you know who is legal and who isn't?

Someone knows

Otherwise how did libs make their studies bragging about how many taxes illegals pay?

 

[Soupnazi630]

Wrong.
Mexico used to be very successful, and it was only after we illegally invaded them twice and took over all their industry that they no longer are successful.
Its called colonial imperialism, and that is why we arm and train their police and military, in order to prevent them from having free elections of getting paid a decent wage.
What you are forgetting is that while we have some protections in the US, unions, you will get assassinated and disappear if you try to get justice in places we control, like Mexico.

We never invaded them illegally

We took no industry from them

You are full of shit as always

 

[Mac-7]

And you're going to do this how?

All citizens would be "papers please". That's a truley small government solution.

WW

I guess you never cashed a check and had to show your “papers”

 

[Coyote]

What a retarded post!

Kind of in line with the retarded OP. Everyone is all about going after illegal workers who are typically working sub minimum wage jobs but not so much the moneyed interests who rely on their labors. Just look at the topics on it. They wouldn’t come if there weren’t jobs. So, let’s tax remittances instead.

 

[WorldWatcher]

They have to show proof.

They came here from a foreign country. They have passports. /s

I see the "/s" tag.

But if they have a valid passport to use, they are here legally. And I lot of citizens don't have passports. So again you are taxing legal people.

WW

 

[Lisa558]

And you're going to do this how?

All citizens would be "papers please". That's a truley small government solution.

WW

if it helps us recapture the fortune the illegal aliens are costing us, I’m for it.

Anyone sending money home who is here legally has a passport (or how would they have gotten here)? Just like I have to show my passport when I come back to America from a foreign visit, all people sending money “home” just have to show their passport.

Failing that, they pay the 25% tax.

 

[Arlette]

They have to show proof.

They came here from a foreign country. They have passports. /s

So they show you their fake ID. Are you gonna ID check everybody brown or "illegal" looking. Your brain fart isn't workable.

 

[WorldWatcher]

I guess you never cashed a check and had to show your “papers”

To pay a tax? Nope, never.

WW

 

[Care4all]

The numbers don't match Lisa's story....

$800 billion remittances, divided by say....20 million claimed illegals is each ilkegal, sending $40,000.00 back to their home countries each year......do you REALLY THINK each illegal makes $60 to $80k a year to be able to live and then send back half of their earnings? Seriously!! $40,000 a year sent back from each illegal???

Malarkey!

 

[Mac-7]

Correct, it can be improved. The current I-9 system is crap.



Agreed.



And fine the employers at a rate of 100% of all compensation paid to illegal aliens.

WW

If you have a functioning E-verify that can catch phony documentation

But you just conceded we dont have a good system yet

 

[Lisa558]

Kind of in line with the retarded OP. Everyone is all about going after illegal workers who are typically working sub minimum wage jobs but not so much the moneyed interests who rely on their labors. Just look at the topics on it. They wouldn’t come if there weren’t jobs. So, tax remittances instead.

Are you so retarded that you don’t understand I called you that because you called my OP retarded?

There are jobs because liberals give Americans a choice of welfare OR a job. Take away that choice, and Americans will take jobs.