Zone1 What to Do with Gaza?

[M14 Shooter]

They still occupy part of Syria and Lebanon, not to mention the occupied west bank.

Jordan ceded the West Bank to Israel in 1994, by treaty,.
Israel cannot "occupy" lad that lies within its international borders.

 

[TruthNotBS]

In 1950, Jordan annexed the West Bank, gave all the Palestinians citizenship, the right to vote, and representation in its legislature.

Yes, but 750 thousand Palestinians were driven from their lands and homes, into Gaza and the West Bank. The European Jews didn't have the right to establish a Jewish State at their expense.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Gaza was NEVER a part of Egypt - a small part of it was occupied by Egypt in 1948/49 - whilst Israel had occupied a far larger portion of Gaza already in 1948. After 1974 in order to maintain a peace between Egypt and Israel - Israel returned Sinai, and kept on occupying Gaza.

Where on the UN partition-plan of 1947 do you see that Gaza belonged to Egypt? Egypt achieved independence in 1922 - whilst Gaza belonged to the British Mandate of Palestine till 1948 - when Israel annexed around 80% of the Gaza-Palestinian designated territory.

IIRC - I had already posted that info to you on two separate occasions - regarding your same false claim.

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And Egypt annexed it after conquering it in the 1948 war. Just like Jordan annexed the West Bank at the same time. So YES Gaza was part of Egypt and the UN made no bones about it.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Gaza was NEVER a part of Egypt - a small part of it was occupied by Egypt in 1948/49 - whilst Israel had occupied a far larger portion of Gaza already in 1948. After 1974 in order to maintain a peace between Egypt and Israel - Israel returned Sinai, and kept on occupying Gaza.

Where on the UN partition-plan of 1947 do you see that Gaza belonged to Egypt? Egypt achieved independence in 1922 - whilst Gaza belonged to the British Mandate of Palestine till 1948 - when Israel annexed around 80% of the Gaza-Palestinian designated territory.

IIRC - I had already posted that info to you on two separate occasions - regarding your same false claim.

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In my opinion, they should all go back to the original UN partition plan. The Palestinians should let go of their attachment to the land that they lost and accept the original UN partition plan. However, due to what is happening now in Gaza, that's probably impossible now. Too much bad blood between the Jews and Palestinians.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Not necessary the UN. This international body can be created by an agreement of some involved countries.

What makes you think that any international body would behave any differently than the UNHCR?

 

[TruthNotBS]

And Egypt annexed it after conquering it in the 1948 war. Just like Jordan annexed the West Bank at the same time. So YES Gaza was part of Egypt and the UN made no bones about it.

Are you appealing to the UN as an authority? That's interesting because the same UN you're using as an authority considers Israel's current occupation of the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza as illegal. The control that Israel has over Gaza is considered illegal according to international law. Occupiers have no right to defend their occupations. Those who are being occupied have a right to resist, even violently, according to the UN.

 

[Deadstick]

Jordan ceded the West Bank to Israel in 1994, by treaty,.
Israel cannot "occupy" lad that lies within its international borders.

Bollocks!!

 

[ESay]

Well historically it’s been the Palestinians who have walked away from 2 state solutions, so they may have already broken too many bridges. Israel has offered major concessions in the past but Palestinian leaders rejected them. It seems all the will accept is for Israel to suddenly cease to exist and for all land to be given to them.

That’s not likely to happen, nor should anyone expect a nation like Israel to just surrender their land for no reason.

So it’s on Palestinian leadership, but they may not even want a 2 State solution to continue to fan the flames of anti-semitism as a tool they can use…

If we begin from the start, then we should admit that the Palestinians not only rejected a 2 state solution, but they rejected the partition of Palestine altogether.

Today, it is pointless to talk about that as long as the West Bank is in essence divided on 3 parts with Jerusalem being annexed by Israel. The 2 state solution, at least how it was meant before, is gone.

 

[ESay]

What makes you think that any international body would behave any differently than the UNHCR?

I don't know how it would behave. It may well be that they also would fail.

Do you have something better to propose? If it is something like nuking Gaza or cleansing it from the Arabs, then don't bother to answer please.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Bollocks!!

Boy, you sure convinced me! What an intellectual response lol

 

[Deadstick]

Boy, you sure convinced me! What an intellectual response lol

It's the only response it deserves.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Boy, you sure convinced me! What an intellectual response lol

He's a complete tosser on the dole most likely.

 

[Deadstick]

He's a complete tosser on the dole most likely.

I took retirement after a very good working life, how about you Muppet?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I took retirement after a very good working life, how about you Muppet?

I am of retired age but enjoy running my company so have not retried.

I do hope the amount you receives helps you keep up your caravan though.

 

[Lisa558]

Or pressurize them with CO Gas like NYC is doing to kill underground rats.

Rats being a higher life form of course.


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How can Israel do that when the savages likely have hostages in the tunnels?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

It was never "their" land. The nomads have never had their own. Never a nation nor country

A Pit Stop for Desert Bandits

 

[Mr. Friscus]

It's the only response it deserves.

Well, it only wastes your time and board space in application

 

[Deadstick]

How can Israel do that when the savages likely have hostages in the tunnels?

Well all that frenzied bombing has probably killed some of them.

 

[surada]

Bull in 1922, the Arabs launched a pogrom to eradicate the Jews in Jerusalem. The Brits fought a minor war to stop them. They’ve been trying to eradicate the Jews ever since.

Human rights in Israel and Occupied Palestinian Territories

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[surada]

Wrong, Gaza was part of EGYPT.

As the Arabs see the Jews, by His Majesty King Abdullah - Balfour Project

The American Magazine November, 1947 Summary This appeal to the American people, written by King Abdullah, son of Sharif Hussein and grandfather of the current King of Jordan, appeared in the United States six months before the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. In the article, King Abdullah disputes the...

balfourproject.org

Excerpt:

Our case is quite simple: For nearly 2,000 years Palestine has been almost 100 per cent Arab. It is still preponderantly Arab today, in spite of enormous Jewish immigration. But if this immigration continues we shall soon be outnumbered—a minority in our home.

Palestine is a small and very poor country, about the size of your state of Vermont. Its Arab population is only about 1,200,000. Already we have had forced on us, against our will, some 600,000 Zionist Jews. We are threatened with many hundreds of thousands more.

Our position is so simple and natural that we are amazed it should even be questioned. It is exactly the same position you in America take in regard to the unhappy European Jews. You are sorry for them, but you do not want them in your country.

We do not want them in ours, either. Not because they are Jews, but because they are foreigners. We would not want hundreds of thousands of foreigners in our country, be they Englishmen or Norwegians or Brazilians or whatever.

Think for a moment: In the last 25 years we have had one third of our entire population forced upon us. In America that would be the equivalent of 45,000,000 complete strangers admitted to your country, over your violent protest, since 1921. How would you have reacted to that?

Because of our perfectly natural dislike of being overwhelmed in our own homeland, we are called blind nationalists and heartless anti-Semites. This charge would be ludicrous were it not so dangerous.

No people on earth have been less “anti-Semitic” than the Arabs. The persecution of the Jews has been confined almost entirely to the Christian nations of the West. Jews, themselves, will admit that never since the Great Dispersion did Jews develop so freely and reach such importance as in Spain when it was an Arab possession. With very minor exceptions, Jews have lived for many centuries in the Middle East, in complete peace and friendliness with their Arab neighbours.

Damascus, Baghdad, Beirut and other Arab centres have always contained large and prosperous Jewish colonies. Until the Zionist invasion of Palestine began, these Jews received the most generous treatment—far, far better than in Christian Europe. Now, unhappily, for the first time in history, these Jews are beginning to feel the effects of Arab resistance to the Zionist assault. Most of them are as anxious as Arabs to stop it. Most of these Jews who have found happy homes among us resent, as we do, the coming of these strangers.