What's new
US Message Board 🦅 Political Discussion Forum

Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

What The Euro Has Wrought


Diamond Member
Nov 22, 2003
Reaction score
I'm not so sure any of them will realise their problem. I think Europe is too far down the slope:


The Times October 26, 2006

What has four letters, begins with E and is slowly killing half of Europe? I disagree with 'half', he's just ignoring the other problems.
Anatole Kaletsky

WHILE MOST of the worldÂ’s attention has naturally focused on the catastrophe of Iraq, the nuclear showdown in North Korea and the electoral nemesis approaching for George W. Bush on November 7, it has also been an interesting week in Europe.

Hungarians marked the brutal suppression of their democracy by Soviet tanks 50 years ago by rioting against their elected Government. In Italy, the GovernmentÂ’s credit rating was reduced to the same level as BotswanaÂ’s, and Romano Prodi seemed on the verge of losing a vote of confidence, just six months after sweeping his reviled and derided predecessor, Silvio Berlusconi, from power. The British Home Secretary welcomed Bulgarians and Romanians into the European Union by restricting their ability to seek jobs.

The Iraq invasion, disastrous though it has been, may not go down in history as the greatest political blunder of the past decade. Actually, the jury is out on Iraq, but that doesn't prevent the Euro take on things, which is more than 'part' of the problem. That dubious honour will probably belong to an event most people still regard as a triumph: the creation of the euro. What we see today, not only in Italy and Hungary, but also in the other relatively weak economies on the southern and eastern fringes of the EU, is the beginning of the end of the European project. Again, it's not only the southern and eastern, the EU has had serious repercussions on UK and other 'western' powers.And if the euro project does turn out to be the high-water mark of European unification, then history will judge it a far more important event that anything happening in the Middle East. Not necessarily, though there is nothing on the horizon to say that such may occur. Another case of European hubris.

But what does the euro have to do with the political troubles in Hungary and Italy? And how can I compare the technocratic financial problems connected with the euro to a moral and humanitarian disaster such as Iraq? These two questions have a very clear answer: democratic self-government — or, more precisely, its denial.

What we see in Eastern and Southern Europe today are the consequences of the EUÂ’s transformation from a union of democratic countries into a sort of supra-national financial empire in which the most important decisions affecting EU citizens are no longer subject to democratic control. Again, underestimation of what has occurred. It's much more than financial; it's political, social, in fact a world view.

In Italy the Government is on the brink of collapse because of Signor Prodi’s insistence on implementing tax increases and budget cuts demanded by Joaquín Almunia, the EU Economic Commissioner, under the terms of the Maastricht Treaty. In Hungary, the riots began a month ago because the Prime Minister showed his contempt for democracy by publicly admitting that he had “lied, morning, noon and night” about the tax increases and public spending cuts that he had promised Señor Almunia before a recent election — and after the election was over, he naturally felt that his promises to Brussels were far more important than the ones he had made to Hungarian voters. While France and Germany, the architech's of the system ignore all the 'details', without repercussions.

The resulting budget cuts of 7 per cent of GDP over two years would be roughly equivalent in Britain to closing down the entire NHS. And Hungary, remember, is being forced to do this to comply with the Maastricht treaty, without even being admitted to the eurozone. And for that, who's fault is that? If I were a Hungarian citizen, I'd throw the rascals out.

There is now almost no chance of Hungary, or any other new European country, being admitted to the euro-zone in the foreseeable future. This was demonstrated over the summer when Lithuania and Estonia was refused permission to join the euro on the flimsiest of grounds. This EU decision attracted little attention in Britain but was hugely controversial in Eastern Europe. It effectively meant that the accession countries would continue to have their economic policies set in Brussels and Frankfurt without even being able to enjoy the modest benefits of using the single currency. So, what is new here? These are the same countries being dissed by the same countries that let them be overrun by first the Germans then the USSR, why would they expect different now?

The political consequence of this asymmetry of power is growing disillusionment in the East, not only with the EU but even with the concept of parliamentary democracy. And that is where the US is missing the boat. We need allies, real allies. Granted they can't help the way a France could but hasn't, ever. So we help them and they help us, where they can. That's more than France will do.The economic effect of forcing Central Europe to abide by deflationary policies designed for the mature economies of the eurozone is the weak demand growth and mass unemployment experienced by the accession countries. This unemployment has been the main driving force behind the huge flow of labour out of Central Europe. And that flood of workers, in turn, has provoked the hostile and ultimately self-defeating rhetoric of the British Government against Bulgarian and Romanian immigrants.

The Maastricht treaty has turned the Eastern Europeans into second-class citizens. No, actually the EU has done that.The belated recognition of this fact is starting to have the predictably ugly impact on the politics of Europe’s eastern periphery. But before getting too indignant about the injustices to Eastern Europe, let us spare a thought for the citizens of old Europe who are privileged to “enjoy” full membership of the eurozone. The latest budgetary crisis in Italy may well be averted and the Prodi Government will probably survive for a few more months. But as Signor Prodi’s huge tax increases begin to bite, the Italian economy is almost certain to sink back into recession. Moreover, there will be no chance of Italy tackling any of its real economic problems once unemployment starts rising next year.

What Italy needs today is competition, privatisation of grossly inefficient state-sponsored utilities, deregulation of the financial system and changes in labour laws. Such reforms can be hard to implement even in a booming economy. In a stagnant or declining one, they will become impossible. They'd have to actually enter markets, improve productivity, and cut 'socialism'. This isn't going to happen.

To make matters worse, Italy will be tightening its budget at the same time as Germany implements the biggest tax increases in its modern history — also in deference to the Maastricht Treaty, if not under quite such direct compulsion from the EU. These simultaneous fiscal blunders in Italy, Germany and Eastern Europe will almost mean another “lost year” for the euro zone, with economic performance falling far behind America, Britain and Japan. But the long-term consequences could be more far-reaching.

At some point the people of Europe will realise that there is something rotten in a political system that leaves them forever in the world economy’s slow lane — and which cannot be changed by any democratic process, regardless of how people vote.

Europe is generally socialist, hence the tendency for centralisation and bossiness. The EU is not unlike the old Soviet experiment - or is becoming more and more like it. As for D Murray's (Eastbourne) comments, the EU's finance audit checkers still refuse to accept or sign-off the accounts - no one knows where the money goes! Each country would be better to leave the Euro - I believe certain countries are actually planning for this. Meanwhile, in Switzerland...

Phil, Preston, UK

I agree with everything Mr. Kaletsky says but not with his lack of historical perspective. The euro can do one thing, the Maastrict Treaty the other thing, and the EU yet another thing, but it simply is not the case that any of them ever will be regarded as being of much historical importance, certainly not "a far more important event that anything happening in the Middle East." The only remaining event of historical importance left to Europe is its demographic trajectory into unimportance, and that has been baked into the pie so decisively that the only drama left is in watching just how it unfolds. The euro is a yawn.

John Rogitz, San Diego, California

There is a reality of the European Union that is lived daily by millions of people on the Continent and it bears little in common with US and UK fantasies about it. One of the things the euro did was to kill all these damaging runs on a European currency of the day to enrich speculators and curerncy traders (where are they all?) at the expense of ordinary people. Black Wednesday happened because of the daft economic policies of the British government, not because of Europe. Italian economic issues date well before the introduction of the Euro and Germany's reunification was an economic burden that would have broken the back of a country like the UK. Speaking of which, the UK's humongous pile of debt is not exactly healthy, is it? Speaking of which again, after 10 years of a "booming" economy, the housing stock is still hopelessly inadequate. What proportion of it would be deemed uninhabitable in, say, Germany?

Jean-Loup, London

USMB Server Goals

Total amount

Most reactions - Past 7 days

Forum List