What should be done to reduce mass shootings? (Poll)

Do you support any of the OP suggested ways to reduce mass shootings?

  • 1. AI scours the internet for probable shooters, triggers a red-flag

    Votes: 5 13.5%
  • 2. Gun Control

    Votes: 5 13.5%
  • 3. Hold parents legally responsible for their kid's actions

    Votes: 7 18.9%
  • 4. Re-open insane asylums, primarily outpatient

    Votes: 17 45.9%
  • 5. No action

    Votes: 3 8.1%

  • Total voters
    37
2nd Amendment was passed in 1791. For 174 years, there were no recorded history of mass or school shootings. Over the last 60 years, we have seen many.

Over the last 60 years we have also seen a culture that makes more excuses and has less personal accountability.
 
The US has the EC, the antithesis to proportionality, which refers to people, not prairie, when not in the US and gives votes in different states different values.
The "Great Compromise" is enshrined in the Constitution. The EC is there forever. Whine all you want.
Many states have 'winner take all', another thing opposite to proportionality.
That is how democracy works. A win by one vote is as good as unanimous.
It still has gerrymanderable congressional districts, another thing that makes proportionality impossible.
If one party gerrymanders, the other party has to in order to be competitive.
Elections to the Senate are the only national government elections that could be called proportional, within the state at least.
Same as the "winner-take-all" EC in a given state. Remember that the US began as a membership of independent states, not as a federalized country.
 
I'm disgusted by the frequency of mass shootings.
But censorship isn't the answer.
There is a societal problem that we need to fix.
Yeah, the problem is US society is awash with firearms, you need to get rid of most of them. That will fix it.

Unless ease of access to firearms is more important in the US than school kids.

Oh. Right.


My bad.
 
Yeah, the problem is US society is awash with firearms, you need to get rid of most of them. That will fix it.
Unless ease of access to firearms is more important in the US than school kids.
Oh. Right. My bad.
I'm on-board with restrictions to ownership of firearms.
For example, anyone under treatment by a mental health professional automatically gets "red-flagged".
Anyone taking powerful meds, like trannys, get red-flagged.
Anyone who gets flagged for online threats, gets red-flagged.
All non-US citizens get red-flagged.
More importantly, parents need to be held legally responsible if they don't report a potential shooter.
Maybe those who have a PFA filed against them get red-flagged?

Maybe you can think of more, but this keeps access for law-abiding citizens, but should exclude those most likely to be a shooter.

To me "red-flagged" means that the FBI is notified to refuse permission to purchase a firearm, and the local law enforcement agency is notified to collect all of their firearms.
 
I can think of (4) ways to potentially reduce the number of mass shootings.

Just one needed .
Get rid of Deep State and reduce all of these CIA and FBI created False Flags / Fake Incidents to zero .

Almost every one is Project Chaos .
They are all scripted theatre -- just like the latest Minnesota fairy story .
 
Stop mainstreaming drug use. Demonize drug usage. Start by recriminalizing pot.
Fentanyl wouldn’t be a problem if drug use wasn’t accepted as normal.
Every single one of these mass shooters are drug addled or screwed up from drug use.
None of this occurred before drug abuse became mainstreamed.
Definitely not pot. Big Pharma psyche drugs and pseudo-opiods, yes.
I'm thinking targeted conditioning of these people. They're probably very susceptible
to suggestion, much moreso than average people.
 
I don't understand how what we have now isn't proportional representation.
People vote in primaries and in the general election, the winner has a majority.
I don't see the current system changing, unless "ranked choice" is used, which isn't popular.

Let me explain.

I'll explain with Belfast South constituency from 2015. Yes, I know it's the UK, but it's a really great example of FPTP (and no, I've never been to Northern Ireland)


The SDLP won the seat. 24.5% of people voted for their candidate. Which means 75.5% of people DID NOT VOTE for the SDLP.

But they got to represent that constituency for two years.

If we zoom out the SDLP got 0.3% off the vote in the whole of the UK and got three seats. Or 0.5% of the seats.

UKIP, a MAGA style anti-EU party, got 12.6% of the vote, and they only got one seat. The Lib Dems, got 7.9% of the vote and 8 seats. The Tories got 50.8% of the seats but only 36.8% of the votes.

What did the people want?

The people of Belfast South clearly didn't want the SDLP, however that's what they got. Of some miracle they got more or less what PR might have given them. However all the other parties got wild results compared to what the country wanted.

Then if we look at, say, Germany, we can see that in 2017 the AfD got 12.6% of the vote, the same as UKIP in the UK and got 90 seats, instead of UKIP's one.



The real difference between FPTP and PR are this:

1) It's very difficult to buy an election. In the US House elections there are many seats which could go one way or the other. So the big money rolls up and throws dirt, because it's easier to be negative than positive.

2) It's very difficult for the voter, with FPTP, to change anything. The voters have no control. With PR in Germany the voters got fed up with the CDU/CSU so they voted for the AfD, both are right wing parties. You're not throwing away your vote, the CDU/CSU could, potentially be in coalition with the AfD, the right still keeps its votes.

In the US if you want a protest vote, you either vote 3rd party, your vote is meaningless, or you vote against your wing of the party, which gifts to the other wing.

In the UK Labour and the Lib Dems are both left wing parties, and mainstream. While on the right, until recently, it was only the Tories. This gave a HUGE advantage to the Tories.

From 2010 to 2024 the Tories only got more votes than the two left wing parties once, but were running the government the whole time.

3) Politicians under FPTP are more likely to look to the money. Get the money, do the bidding of the rich, and you will win because they'll throw money at you. With PR you need to have policies that appeal to people. Governments need to be competent, or they will either get voted out or see a reduction in the number of seats.

In the US, the Reps and Dems win all the time, if they lose this time, then there's next time. In Germany, potentially, a third party could overtake a main party and destroy them, within years.
 
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Inpatient Mental hospitals.
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And court ordered commitment by sensible, unbiased judges, to include life-long commitment or until a person is deemed by a competent unbiased psychiatric professionals to no longer be a threat.

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AI? You do know that ai typically gives wring answers. Just about anything I search using ai comes up wrong. When I point out ai is wrong, ai corrects itself but trys to convince me it is still right.

what can be done, dont turn boys into girls

Stop the media from stating boys becoming girls is beautiful

Stop all doctors from perforning trans mutilations, surgeries

Stop calling the political propaganda outlets news

Stop yelling fire in a crowded theater, that is all the lies made to make young people hate their country, hate their neighbors

Stop the climate change doomsday bullshit

Stop the neighbor maga is a fascist propaganda

stop the politicians and all the media from telling us there is no hope

Let a young man buy a home for cheap, dirt cheap. Make owning a home as easy as buying a can of soda
 
There are 2 kinds of mass shooters. Black gang shooters and school and workplace shooters. Black gang shooters are the result of no father in the home. School shooters are 100% a mental illness problem. Both are the result of democrat policies. They support single mothers. They allow violent mentally ll kids to refuse treatment and stay in school.
 
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Simple -- parents need to parent.

Mothers need to mother, a great part of which is teaching a child what their value is.

If Westman had felt he was valuable, he would have been far less of a target for the devil of "progressivism".

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How? If psychiatrists are competent they should e able to diagnose potential shooters, and red flag them.
If a person is even seeing a mental health professional, that should be a red flag, no guns allowed.
Involuntary commitment is necessary to deny guns.
 
I can think of (4) ways to potentially reduce the number of mass shootings.
All of them offend one group or the other.
1. Have AI scour online personas for potential shooter profiles. If found, the FBI database will be checked to see if any guns were purchased, if not a "red-flag stop" will be issued so the FBI denies all gun purchases until the stop is cleared. If they have purchased any guns, the police will be directed to hold them until the stop is cleared. Civil libertarians and NRA members will both hate this idea. This is based on the fact that shooters generally have an online presence.

2. Gun control like democrats keep whining for.

3. Hold parents legally responsible for the actions of their kids until the age of 25. They should know if their kid is messed up. If they report a kid for therapy or psychological evaluation, the state shares the cost.

4. Re-open outpatient mental institutions. Too many insane people are on the street.

5. No action. Things stay as-is.
What does outpatient mean? I favor forced commitment to all who are a danger to others. I also favor the AI thing. But, most importantly, we need to be tougher on crime and keep people locked up or give them longer sentences. It's crazy that people get arrested 10, 20, and 30 times and let right back out.
 
The last 7 mass shootings have been by trans or non binary. They have a particular hatred of children. Without these mentally ill deviants there would have been no mass shootings.

Watch, democrats will blame guns.
 
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