What should be done to reduce mass shootings? (Poll)

[Foxfyre]

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One member of our Catholic adult discussion group is a teacher in a tiny country school in a very red state, and she told us today that one of her students is into the gender dysphoria thing, and refuses to allow anyone to address him/her/it by the wrong name or gender.

It breaks my friend's heart. It needs to stop.

Parents need to teach children to value themselves, so that they are not susceptible to the forces that want to brainwash them into thinking that they are simply wrong and must be fixed.

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Absolutely. Little girls should be valued and cherished and appreciated for being little girls. Ditto little boys. And they should be taught that certain body parts should be kept private around the opposite sex and not to violate each other's private spaces. Otherwise they should be allowed the joy and innocence of childhood blissfully unaware of all this other crap.

 

[kyzr]

Obviously no surprise that the likes of FOX are providing the foreign operative a platform promoting this.

I'm liking it as a good first step. I'm sure there are American programs in NSA, or FBI. Many years ago there was a snooping program called "Carnivore" that Janet Reno wanted renamed. I'm sure there are modern ones.

Carnivore (software) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Foxfyre]

That is the "Family Values" option. I remember TV shows like
Leave it to Beaver
Happy Days
The Waltons
Little House on the Prairie
Family Ties

...and the like

Yes. That was when basic American values, traditions, mores, attitudes were considered normal and nobody questioned them. It gave children a powerful grounding in security and stability and helped them grow up without a lot of mental confusion and issues.

It is significant that they remained popular and sought out for many years after the last episodes were filmed and they went into syndication. It took a long time for the left to screw up that kind of normal American culture.

It didn't matter when those values were sometimes a bit unrealistic in their perfection. I remember my kids asking me why I couldn't be more like June Cleaver who never ever got mad at her boys. I would just say sorry, they were stuck with me. But I could be more like June Cleaver if they were more like Beaver and Wally. And they understood. Family life generally has more stresses and pressures and conflict than what we usually saw on those shows, but it is okay to show the ideal as something to shoot for too.

 

[JohnDB]

 

[kyzr]

Medical doctors are held responsible for prescribing drugs a patient is allergic to ALL THE TIME.
Why are mental health doctors not held to a similar standard? Especially when many people's lives are at stake?
It's not like they are unaware of the possibilities or potential for catastrophic results from the side effects of medications or poor counseling.
At this point the whole world is aware.
They also have the power to involuntarily commit them to a mental health facility when the situation calls for it. They are on speed dial.
Why have they not been held to account for their negligence?
Granted crazy people do crazy things....but there are DEFINITE WARNING SIGNS they are aware of.

Exactly. Its time to break the glass.

 

[kyzr]

Yes. That was when basic American values, traditions, mores, attitudes were considered normal and nobody questioned them. It gave children a powerful grounding in security and stability and helped them grow up without a lot of mental confusion and issues.
It is significant that they remained popular and sought out for many years after the last episodes were filmed and they went into syndication. It took a long time for the left to screw up that kind of normal American culture.
It didn't matter when those values were sometimes a bit unrealistic in their perfection. I remember my kids asking me why I couldn't be more like June Cleaver who never ever got mad at her boys. I would just say sorry, they were stuck with me. But I could be more like June Cleaver if they were more like Beaver and Wally. And they understood. Family life generally has more stresses and pressures and conflict than what we usually saw on those shows, but it is okay to show the ideal as something to shoot for too.

That is priceless. "I'll be more like June Cleaver if you are more like the Beav and Wally."
I can't watch MSMTV anymore so I don't know which families are put up as the American standard for kids to emulate.

 

[kyzr]

I don't know the medical statistics of which drugs promote violence.
I do know gang violence is promoted by drugs.
Pols are seeing the new revenue from weed, but are willing to ignore the side effects.

 

[Natural Citizen]

I'm liking it as a good first step.

Of course, you are.

In fact, I imagine that most here likely do as well.

 

[JOSweetHeart]

I was going to vote #3, but that only works for kids who are underage still. The guy who shot those kids was in his 20s. Yeah, the way that a person is raised or not raised can raise a lot of blood pressures, but at the end of the day, unless the person in question was born a special needs person, what they do is their own responsibility and no one else's.

God bless you always!!!

Holly (a girl who has not voted in this poll)

 

[Natural Citizen]

I think that the only way that we're going to be able to safeguard liberties and actually take practical measures like Massie's bill mentioned previously in the thread is after the boomers die off.

As it is, they're historically the biggest proponents of big authoritarian government. Most make up the slithering so-called ''moderate'' demograph who are most often content with pretty much all of the authoritarian, anti-liberty agendas coming from both sides of the party-of-one in Washington.

 

[The Duke]

None of the above....
ALL of the school mass shootings had a commonality of being under the care of "mental health" practitioners.

These professionals ARE culpable and liable....THEY FAILED to do anything to prevent their clients from committing such atrocities or perceiving the negative side effects from the psychotropic drugs they prescribed.

Psychiatry and psychologists need to get their crap together....because these literally could have groomed these people to commit these atrocities.

To me it looks like they may actually do it on purpose.
None of their therapists have been investigated to my knowledge.
After a half dozen? I think that needs to happen.
It's not random coincidence stuff.

 

[otto105]

To anyone that voted number one.

Jackbooted thugs

Less freedom of expression

The deep state

Thought control

 

[The Duke]

Many smaller schools can't afford that.
The Catholic schools already pay tuition as high as college.

Have some of the teachers or staff be armed.

 

[pknopp]

Sadly expand health resources isn't an option so..........

 

[Eman623]

Stop giving national news coverage to mass shootings. Only the local media should cover them.

Giving the loser nutjobs the attention they do richly do not deserve just means you'll get more of them.

 

[Natural Citizen]

To anyone that voted number one.

Jackbooted thugs

Less freedom of expression

The deep state

Thought control

eeeyep....

 

[kyzr]

I think that the only way that we're going to be able to safeguard liberties and actually take practical measures like Massie's bill mentioned previously in the thread is after the boomers die off.
As it is, they're historically the biggest proponents of authoritarian government. Most make up the slithering moderate demographic who are often content with all of the authoritarian, anti-liberty agendas coming from both sides of the party-of-one in Washington.

Boomers don't support gun free zones necessarily.

Congressman Massie Introduces Bill to Repeal Federal Gun-Free School Zones Act

massie.house.gov

We Boomers like "Law and Order". We trust our kids who are in uniform.

Unlike the Biden era call for 80,000 IRS agents "willing to kill". So WTF was that about? A new Gestapo?

IRS Deletes Requirement That New Agents Be Willing to Use 'Deadly Force'

Backlash against IRS hiring practices follows criticism alleging that tens of thousands of new agents will be hired and go after poorer Americans.

www.newsweek.com

 

[kyzr]

Stop giving national news coverage to mass shootings. Only the local media should cover them.
Giving the loser nutjobs the attention they do richly do not deserve just means you'll get more of them.

I'm disgusted by the frequency of mass shootings.
But censorship isn't the answer.
There is a societal problem that we need to fix.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Have some of the teachers or staff be armed.

Uvalde had a hundred cops.

 

[Foxfyre]

That is priceless. "I'll be more like June Cleaver if you are more like the Beav and Wally."
I can't watch MSMTV anymore so I don't know which families are put up as the American standard for kids to emulate.

Family shows are pretty rare on TV these days except for the few channels that still show the old classics. Mostly now even on prime time television it is going to be more angry with gratuitous sex and violence, as much profanity as they dare use. And ther is a lot of PC and woke preachy content or whatever even in the kids' programming.

I'm hoping the backlash we're now seeing against that stuff will eventually translate into more of our entertainment so we can get really good television and movies again.