What makes someone suidcidal (Mental Illness?)

[RetiredGySgt]

Regardless of what you bozos want to think, I KNOW about this stuff. I type these people's histories and physicals, their clinic notes, their medication dosages, what kind of adjustments the doctors make to their meds, how long they are in the hospital, why they are in the hospital, their family history, their social history, etc., etc. That is what I DO for a living. I type about these people's life stories in and out of psychiatric facilities, and let me tell you . . . you do NOT want these people to be out there not taking their meds.

Okay, Chris, I didn't realize you had attained an MD credential. Let's see, being a medical transcriptionist qualifies you to assess and recommend treatment exactly how? Because you took a typing class or two? Un huh, I see. BTW, Chris, if I were you I'd be preparing for another career because this one will be ending soon as this function is soon to be replaced by technology. Just saying...

And STILL you do not tell those claiming meds should not be taken and doctors should not be trusted to take care. I wonder why that is?

 

[Spinster]

My point throughout this thread has been do not listen to advice given to you on the internet by anonymous message board posters. Listen to your doctor. If you don't trust your doctor, then find another doctor that you can trust. Ask him or her questions about your medications. Ask him or her questions about your dosages. The doctor SHOULD explain all of these things to you and any other questions you might have if you feel hesitant about taking your medications. If you disagree for some reason, the doctor cannot ever FORCE you to take a medication unless you have been institutionalized. In that case, they can force medications on you, but in all of the cases I have typed about, the only ones who are institutionalized are those who have made threats or threatening gestures. It is usually a family member or the police who bring these people in.

No, while nutrition is good and great, it is not going to calm the "voices" that some of these people hear in their heads telling them to kill themselves or others. These people need professional psychiatric treatment.

Wow, defensive much? Must have hit a nerve. How is it that nutrition came into play here. First time I believe it was even brought up on this thread. Boy, you're all over the place on this one. Did YOU go off your meds.

 

[ChrisL]

Regardless of what you bozos want to think, I KNOW about this stuff. I type these people's histories and physicals, their clinic notes, their medication dosages, what kind of adjustments the doctors make to their meds, how long they are in the hospital, why they are in the hospital, their family history, their social history, etc., etc. That is what I DO for a living. I type about these people's life stories in and out of psychiatric facilities, and let me tell you . . . you do NOT want these people to be out there not taking their meds.

Okay, Chris, I didn't realize you had attained an MD credential. Let's see, being a medical transcriptionist qualifies you to assess and recommend treatment exactly how? Because you took a typing class or two? Un huh, I see. BTW, Chris, if I were you I'd be preparing for another career because this one will be ending soon as this function is soon to be replaced by technology. Just saying...

And STILL you do not tell those claiming meds should not be taken and doctors should not be trusted to take care. I wonder why that is?

Just another dishonest poster. Places like this tend to attract certain types of people.

 

[Iceweasel]

My point throughout this thread has been do not listen to advice given to you on the internet by anonymous message board posters. Listen to your doctor. If you don't trust your doctor, then find another doctor that you can trust. Ask him or her questions about your medications. Ask him or her questions about your dosages. The doctor SHOULD explain all of these things to you and any other questions you might have if you feel hesitant about taking your medications. If you disagree for some reason, the doctor cannot ever FORCE you to take a medication unless you have been institutionalized. In that case, they can force medications on you, but in all of the cases I have typed about, the only ones who are institutionalized are those who have made threats or threatening gestures. It is usually a family member or the police who bring these people in.

No, while nutrition is good and great, it is not going to calm the "voices" that some of these people hear in their heads telling them to kill themselves or others. These people need professional psychiatric treatment.

Most people on mind altering drugs don't fall into that category, you are broad brushing with the most extreme examples. You can't say what will or will not cure someone since not everyone is the same. Nutrition isn't just good and great, it's absolutely vital for health, physical and mental. And it's a fact that MDs are in general piss poor sources for information.

You should do your own research on any meds or treatments and not be led around by the nose with by the medical system. Almost every drug (maybe all) has a side effect and sometimes the cure is worse than the ailment.

 

[ChrisL]

My point throughout this thread has been do not listen to advice given to you on the internet by anonymous message board posters. Listen to your doctor. If you don't trust your doctor, then find another doctor that you can trust. Ask him or her questions about your medications. Ask him or her questions about your dosages. The doctor SHOULD explain all of these things to you and any other questions you might have if you feel hesitant about taking your medications. If you disagree for some reason, the doctor cannot ever FORCE you to take a medication unless you have been institutionalized. In that case, they can force medications on you, but in all of the cases I have typed about, the only ones who are institutionalized are those who have made threats or threatening gestures. It is usually a family member or the police who bring these people in.

No, while nutrition is good and great, it is not going to calm the "voices" that some of these people hear in their heads telling them to kill themselves or others. These people need professional psychiatric treatment.

Wow, defensive much? Must have hit a nerve. How is it that nutrition came into play here. First time I believe it was even brought up on this thread. Boy, you're all over the place on this one. Did YOU go off your meds.

Another poster was talking about nutrition to cure mental illness. Why don't you get your facts straight before you participate?

 

[ChrisL]

My point throughout this thread has been do not listen to advice given to you on the internet by anonymous message board posters. Listen to your doctor. If you don't trust your doctor, then find another doctor that you can trust. Ask him or her questions about your medications. Ask him or her questions about your dosages. The doctor SHOULD explain all of these things to you and any other questions you might have if you feel hesitant about taking your medications. If you disagree for some reason, the doctor cannot ever FORCE you to take a medication unless you have been institutionalized. In that case, they can force medications on you, but in all of the cases I have typed about, the only ones who are institutionalized are those who have made threats or threatening gestures. It is usually a family member or the police who bring these people in.

No, while nutrition is good and great, it is not going to calm the "voices" that some of these people hear in their heads telling them to kill themselves or others. These people need professional psychiatric treatment.

Wow, defensive much? Must have hit a nerve. How is it that nutrition came into play here. First time I believe it was even brought up on this thread. Boy, you're all over the place on this one. Did YOU go off your meds.

Really, you would save yourself a LOT of embarrassment if you actually knew a little about what you were talking about. Right?

 

[Iceweasel]

My point throughout this thread has been do not listen to advice given to you on the internet by anonymous message board posters. Listen to your doctor. If you don't trust your doctor, then find another doctor that you can trust. Ask him or her questions about your medications. Ask him or her questions about your dosages. The doctor SHOULD explain all of these things to you and any other questions you might have if you feel hesitant about taking your medications. If you disagree for some reason, the doctor cannot ever FORCE you to take a medication unless you have been institutionalized. In that case, they can force medications on you, but in all of the cases I have typed about, the only ones who are institutionalized are those who have made threats or threatening gestures. It is usually a family member or the police who bring these people in.

No, while nutrition is good and great, it is not going to calm the "voices" that some of these people hear in their heads telling them to kill themselves or others. These people need professional psychiatric treatment.

Wow, defensive much? Must have hit a nerve. How is it that nutrition came into play here. First time I believe it was even brought up on this thread. Boy, you're all over the place on this one. Did YOU go off your meds.

I am probably the first to mention it. Many people live off of junk so that's the first thing to correct with any health issues. And even if you aren't suffering yet, really.

 

[ChrisL]

My point throughout this thread has been do not listen to advice given to you on the internet by anonymous message board posters. Listen to your doctor. If you don't trust your doctor, then find another doctor that you can trust. Ask him or her questions about your medications. Ask him or her questions about your dosages. The doctor SHOULD explain all of these things to you and any other questions you might have if you feel hesitant about taking your medications. If you disagree for some reason, the doctor cannot ever FORCE you to take a medication unless you have been institutionalized. In that case, they can force medications on you, but in all of the cases I have typed about, the only ones who are institutionalized are those who have made threats or threatening gestures. It is usually a family member or the police who bring these people in.

No, while nutrition is good and great, it is not going to calm the "voices" that some of these people hear in their heads telling them to kill themselves or others. These people need professional psychiatric treatment.

Wow, defensive much? Must have hit a nerve. How is it that nutrition came into play here. First time I believe it was even brought up on this thread. Boy, you're all over the place on this one. Did YOU go off your meds.

So, which post of mine is it that you find so offensive?

 

[Iceweasel]

Another poster was talking about nutrition to cure mental illness. Why don't you get your facts straight before you participate?

That's a misrepresentation. I said it was key to good health and doctors weren't much help in that category, THEREFORE it behooves one to not just listen to doctors for health advice.

 

[ChrisL]

My point throughout this thread has been do not listen to advice given to you on the internet by anonymous message board posters. Listen to your doctor. If you don't trust your doctor, then find another doctor that you can trust. Ask him or her questions about your medications. Ask him or her questions about your dosages. The doctor SHOULD explain all of these things to you and any other questions you might have if you feel hesitant about taking your medications. If you disagree for some reason, the doctor cannot ever FORCE you to take a medication unless you have been institutionalized. In that case, they can force medications on you, but in all of the cases I have typed about, the only ones who are institutionalized are those who have made threats or threatening gestures. It is usually a family member or the police who bring these people in.

No, while nutrition is good and great, it is not going to calm the "voices" that some of these people hear in their heads telling them to kill themselves or others. These people need professional psychiatric treatment.

Wow, defensive much? Must have hit a nerve. How is it that nutrition came into play here. First time I believe it was even brought up on this thread. Boy, you're all over the place on this one. Did YOU go off your meds.

I am probably the first to mention it. Many people live off of junk so that's the first thing to correct with any health issues. And even if you aren't suffering yet, really.

And I don't deny that good nutrition is important. It is important. But it isn't going to help much when it comes to a mental illness. If it did, healthy people would not suffer from mental illness, but that is not the case at all.

 

[ChrisL]

Another poster was talking about nutrition to cure mental illness. Why don't you get your facts straight before you participate?

That's a misrepresentation. I said it was key to good health and doctors weren't much help in that category, THEREFORE it behooves one to not just listen to doctors for health advice.

Who else would you listen to? Who do you recommend we listen to? If you have a good doctor, he should be giving you accurate information. Not ALL doctors are bad doctors. If you don't trust your doctor, you should find another one. They are supposed to have ongoing training and be taking refresher courses and be up to date on the most advanced information.

Some people might go for alternative therapies, but I would suggest they discuss that with their physician first too. Sometimes you can have interactions with other meds you are taking. Basically, taking therapies outside of what your doctor recommends is quite risky.

 

[ChrisL]

I've typed a lot about people taking herbal supplements, and those can sometimes interfere or react with other medications you might be on. Very important to discuss these things with your doctors!!!

 

[Iceweasel]

And I don't deny that good nutrition is important. It is important. But it isn't going to help much when it comes to a mental illness. If it did, healthy people would not suffer from mental illness, but that is not the case at all.

If you are suffering from mental illness you are not healthy, period. Isn't Dr. God calling for you?

 

[Iceweasel]

I've typed a lot about people taking herbal supplements, and those can sometimes interfere or react with other medications you might be on. Very important to discuss these things with your doctors!!!

... which they know jack shit about.

 

[ChrisL]

Red yeast supplements are a big one that is popular.

InteractionsDepletions
Cholesterol-lowering medications

Red yeast rice should not be taken with cholesterol-lowering (statin) medications unless supervised by your doctor, because the supplement may enhance their effect, therefore increasing the risk of liver damage. If you are already taking a statin, talk to your health care provider before adding red yeast rice to your regimen.

Grapefruit juice

Grapefruit and grapefruit juice can enhance the effects of statins and significantly increase their blood levels, increasing the risk of side effects and liver damage. Because red yeast rice may act similarly in the body to statins, you should avoid drinking grapefruit juice or eating grapefruit or marmalade while taking red yeast rice.

Coenzyme Q10

Statins may deplete the coenzyme called CoQ10 from the body. CoQ10 is very important in heart and muscle health and in energy production. Side effects of CoQ10 depletion include fatigue, muscle aches and pains, and muscle damage. Red yeast rice also may deplete CoQ10 from the body. It is important to supplement your diet with CoQ10, 150 - 200 mg at night, while you are taking red yeast rice products, and for 4 weeks after you stop taking red yeast rice.

I've typed a lot about people taking herbal supplements, and those can sometimes interfere or react with other medications you might be on. Very important to discuss these things with your doctors!!!

... which they know jack shit about.

 

[Iceweasel]

Another poster was talking about nutrition to cure mental illness. Why don't you get your facts straight before you participate?

That's a misrepresentation. I said it was key to good health and doctors weren't much help in that category, THEREFORE it behooves one to not just listen to doctors for health advice.

Who else would you listen to? Who do you recommend we listen to? If you have a good doctor, he should be giving you accurate information. Not ALL doctors are bad doctors. If you don't trust your doctor, you should find another one. They are supposed to have ongoing training and be taking refresher courses and be up to date on the most advanced information.

Some people might go for alternative therapies, but I would suggest they discuss that with their physician first too. Sometimes you can have interactions with other meds you are taking. Basically, taking therapies outside of what your doctor recommends is quite risky.

I said repeatedly to do your own research. The better informed you are the better your decision making can be. The medical profession is designed from the ground up to treat the symptoms with drugs and surgery. Very little if any preventative care.

 

[ChrisL]

And I don't deny that good nutrition is important. It is important. But it isn't going to help much when it comes to a mental illness. If it did, healthy people would not suffer from mental illness, but that is not the case at all.

If you are suffering from mental illness you are not healthy, period. Isn't Dr. God calling for you?

You can be physically healthy but not mentally healthy. Happens all the time. Who is Dr. God? If you don't want to discuss it, then just say so. No biggie.

 

[ChrisL]

Another poster was talking about nutrition to cure mental illness. Why don't you get your facts straight before you participate?

That's a misrepresentation. I said it was key to good health and doctors weren't much help in that category, THEREFORE it behooves one to not just listen to doctors for health advice.

Who else would you listen to? Who do you recommend we listen to? If you have a good doctor, he should be giving you accurate information. Not ALL doctors are bad doctors. If you don't trust your doctor, you should find another one. They are supposed to have ongoing training and be taking refresher courses and be up to date on the most advanced information.

Some people might go for alternative therapies, but I would suggest they discuss that with their physician first too. Sometimes you can have interactions with other meds you are taking. Basically, taking therapies outside of what your doctor recommends is quite risky.

I said repeatedly to do your own research. The better informed you are the better your decision making can be. The medical profession is designed from the ground up to treat the symptoms with drugs and surgery. Very little if any preventative care.

Yes, but don't go off telling people that they don't need medication. You were saying earlier that people are just "weak" or whatever. I'm telling you that no, some people really do need to be medicated, unless you want to keep them locked up 24/7.

 

[ChrisL]

Some others were saying that doctors are in collusion with big pharma. IOW, you cannot trust your doctor to do what is best for you. That is really the message being sent, especially to someone who might be paranoid to begin with. That is not a good idea at all. Not that all docs are great, but there are a lot of good docs out there who have dedicated their lives to their professions and take it very seriously.

 

[Spinster]

So, Doctor Chris, is mental illness ALL you specialize in? Or, does it happen to come from personal experience, you know, like what you've personally experienced in your own life. Incidentally, exactly what genre of phychiatry is it you ascribe to, precisely?