What MAGA gets RIGHT and what they get WRONG

[citygator]

What does MAGA get right? At its core, the MAGA movement tapped into a genuine frustration: life is harder than ever for working-class Americans. Many feel priced out, underpaid, and increasingly marginalized—this disillusionment is the one thing the movement accurately identifies. Inequality has deepened dramatically over the decades, with the bottom earners barely moving compared to the soaring gains at the top. For instance, between 1979 and 2007, the top 1% saw their after-tax earnings grow by 275%, while the bottom 20% only saw an 18% increase. Prices haven’t grown in the same manner so we are looking at the first generation to pass a worse standard of living to their children.

What does MAGA get wrong? Well, everything else. The movement fundamentally misdiagnosed who’s to blame. Instead of pointing to real structural forces causing the loss in power, it turns working-class discontent toward scapegoats—immigrants, welfare recipients—narratives amplified by wealthy leaders who benefit from the status quo. Trump and other elites deploy this rhetoric to deflect blame while implementing policies—like tax cuts and deregulation—that tilt further in favor of the already affluent. It’s a sleight of hand, three-ball-monte, grift that the working class cant see coming. “Where did the ball go?” They’ll ask in memorized stupor.

What is the truth? In truth, data overwhelmingly shows that the real crisis is wealth consolidation at the very top. The bottom half of Americans own barely a sliver of the nation’s wealth—just 2.5%—while the top 10% control over two-thirds. Because that concentration suppresses wages, narrows mobility, and widens inequality, it hurts working families far more than immigrants or welfare recipients ever could. The wealthy in the GOP have successfully labeled any attempt to dismantle the structural advantage the wealthy have bought through congressional influence as “socialism”, “Marxism”, “communism”, “wokeism”, or any number of scary sounding words that end in “ism” to keep the working class off the trail.

What is the solution? The working class needs to wake the **** up or live mired in its worsening status as the wealthy continue to gobble up everything. We are in a bifurcated or two level economy today. The wealthy and big corps are killing it while the consumer is struggling. We will see if they get around to diagnosing their problem or whether they continue to play into it and follow the Trumpian pied piper to blaming brown people, immigrants, and the poor. As if they have all the money.

Is wealth inequality leading to a class war?

In the past four decades, the gap between rich and poor has grown significantly. It’s a dangerous trend.

www.vox.com

Anti-immigration: The rise of Trump and MAGA populism in the USA | www.devissues.nl

www.devissues.nl

 

[eagle1462010]

We dont need no advice from a TDS afflicted fool

 

[dblack]

What does MAGA get right? At its core, the MAGA movement tapped into a genuine frustration: life is harder than ever for working-class Americans. Many feel priced out, underpaid, and increasingly marginalized—this disillusionment is the one thing the movement accurately identifies. Inequality has deepened dramatically over the decades, with the bottom earners barely moving compared to the soaring gains at the top. For instance, between 1979 and 2007, the top 1% saw their after-tax earnings grow by 275%, while the bottom 20% only saw an 18% increase. Prices haven’t grown in the same manner so we are looking at the first generation to pass a worse standard of living to their children.

What does MAGA get wrong? Well, everything else. The movement fundamentally misdiagnosed who’s to blame. Instead of pointing to real structural forces causing the loss in power, it turns working-class discontent toward scapegoats—immigrants, welfare recipients—narratives amplified by wealthy leaders who benefit from the status quo. Trump and other elites deploy this rhetoric to deflect blame while implementing policies—like tax cuts and deregulation—that tilt further in favor of the already affluent. It’s a sleight of hand, three-ball-monte, grift that the working class cant see coming. “Where did the ball go?” They’ll ask in memorized stupor.

What is the truth? In truth, data overwhelmingly shows that the real crisis is wealth consolidation at the very top. The bottom half of Americans own barely a sliver of the nation’s wealth—just 2.5%—while the top 10% control over two-thirds. Because that concentration suppresses wages, narrows mobility, and widens inequality, it hurts working families far more than immigrants or welfare recipients ever could. The wealthy in the GOP have successfully labeled any attempt to dismantle the structural advantage the wealthy have bought through congressional influence as “socialism”, “Marxism”, “communism”, “wokeism”, or any number of scary sounding words that end in “ism” to keep the working class off the trail.

What is the solution? The working class needs to wake the **** up or live mired in its worsening status as the wealthy continue to gobble up everything. We are in a bifurcated or two level economy today. The wealthy and big corps are killing it while the consumer is struggling. We will see if they get around to diagnosing their problem or whether they continue to play into it and follow the Trumpian pied piper to blaming brown people, immigrants, and the poor. As if they have all the money.

Democrats keep telling themselves this.

 

[cnm]

We dont need no advice from a TDS afflicted fool

He must be soshalist, eh?

 

[citygator]

Democrats keep telling themselves this.

Great response. I guess you don’t like the look in the mirror.

 

[cnm]

Democrats keep telling themselves this.

The numbers keep telling it.

 

[alang1216]

What does MAGA get right? At its core, the MAGA movement tapped into a genuine frustration: life is harder than ever for working-class Americans. Many feel priced out, underpaid, and increasingly marginalized—this disillusionment is the one thing the movement accurately identifies. Inequality has deepened dramatically over the decades, with the bottom earners barely moving compared to the soaring gains at the top. For instance, between 1979 and 2007, the top 1% saw their after-tax earnings grow by 275%, while the bottom 20% only saw an 18% increase. Prices haven’t grown in the same manner so we are looking at the first generation to pass a worse standard of living to their children.

What does MAGA get wrong? Well, everything else. The movement fundamentally misdiagnosed who’s to blame. Instead of pointing to real structural forces causing the loss in power, it turns working-class discontent toward scapegoats—immigrants, welfare recipients—narratives amplified by wealthy leaders who benefit from the status quo. Trump and other elites deploy this rhetoric to deflect blame while implementing policies—like tax cuts and deregulation—that tilt further in favor of the already affluent. It’s a sleight of hand, three-ball-monte, grift that the working class cant see coming. “Where did the ball go?” They’ll ask in memorized stupor.

What is the truth? In truth, data overwhelmingly shows that the real crisis is wealth consolidation at the very top. The bottom half of Americans own barely a sliver of the nation’s wealth—just 2.5%—while the top 10% control over two-thirds. Because that concentration suppresses wages, narrows mobility, and widens inequality, it hurts working families far more than immigrants or welfare recipients ever could. The wealthy in the GOP have successfully labeled any attempt to dismantle the structural advantage the wealthy have bought through congressional influence as “socialism”, “Marxism”, “communism”, “wokeism”, or any number of scary sounding words that end in “ism” to keep the working class off the trail.

What is the solution? The working class needs to wake the **** up or live mired in its worsening status as the wealthy continue to gobble up everything. We are in a bifurcated or two level economy today. The wealthy and big corps are killing it while the consumer is struggling. We will see if they get around to diagnosing their problem or whether they continue to play into it and follow the Trumpian pied piper to blaming brown people, immigrants, and the poor. As if they have all the money.

Is wealth inequality leading to a class war?

In the past four decades, the gap between rich and poor has grown significantly. It’s a dangerous trend.

www.vox.com

Anti-immigration: The rise of Trump and MAGA populism in the USA | www.devissues.nl

www.devissues.nl

And the MAGA answer? Shoot the messenger.

 

[dblack]

Great response. I guess you don’t like the look in the mirror.

You have no access to my mirror. The fixation on identity politics and class warfare is why you've been rejected.

 

[Maxdeath]

What do liberals get right? Almost nothing. What do liberals get wrong? Almost everything. They want to be able to pick and choose what laws to follow. Even they can not agree on which ones to disregard and which to follow. They want free handouts with the only idea on how to pay for it being the rich, only problem is they never have a plan for when there are no more rich. They want slaves but since that created such a reaction they will settle for wage slaves, someone they can pay pennies an hour for their their work.
They want everyone to embrace everyone no matter how mentally ill, do not even think of suggesting they get help.
They want teachers and others to make decisions on how someone’s children should be raised, taught, the idea is that way the child is brought up with their ideals.

 

[dblack]

What do liberals get right? Almost nothing. What do liberals get wrong? Almost everything. They want to be able to pick and choose what laws to follow. Even they can not agree on which ones to disregard and which to follow.

So, like Trump?

 

[JGalt]

What does MAGA get right? At its core, the MAGA movement tapped into a genuine frustration: life is harder than ever for working-class Americans. Many feel priced out, underpaid, and increasingly marginalized—this disillusionment is the one thing the movement accurately identifies. Inequality has deepened dramatically over the decades, with the bottom earners barely moving compared to the soaring gains at the top. For instance, between 1979 and 2007, the top 1% saw their after-tax earnings grow by 275%, while the bottom 20% only saw an 18% increase. Prices haven’t grown in the same manner so we are looking at the first generation to pass a worse standard of living to their children.

What does MAGA get wrong? Well, everything else. The movement fundamentally misdiagnosed who’s to blame. Instead of pointing to real structural forces causing the loss in power, it turns working-class discontent toward scapegoats—immigrants, welfare recipients—narratives amplified by wealthy leaders who benefit from the status quo. Trump and other elites deploy this rhetoric to deflect blame while implementing policies—like tax cuts and deregulation—that tilt further in favor of the already affluent. It’s a sleight of hand, three-ball-monte, grift that the working class cant see coming. “Where did the ball go?” They’ll ask in memorized stupor.

What is the truth? In truth, data overwhelmingly shows that the real crisis is wealth consolidation at the very top. The bottom half of Americans own barely a sliver of the nation’s wealth—just 2.5%—while the top 10% control over two-thirds. Because that concentration suppresses wages, narrows mobility, and widens inequality, it hurts working families far more than immigrants or welfare recipients ever could. The wealthy in the GOP have successfully labeled any attempt to dismantle the structural advantage the wealthy have bought through congressional influence as “socialism”, “Marxism”, “communism”, “wokeism”, or any number of scary sounding words that end in “ism” to keep the working class off the trail.

What is the solution? The working class needs to wake the **** up or live mired in its worsening status as the wealthy continue to gobble up everything. We are in a bifurcated or two level economy today. The wealthy and big corps are killing it while the consumer is struggling. We will see if they get around to diagnosing their problem or whether they continue to play into it and follow the Trumpian pied piper to blaming brown people, immigrants, and the poor. As if they have all the money.

Is wealth inequality leading to a class war?

In the past four decades, the gap between rich and poor has grown significantly. It’s a dangerous trend.

www.vox.com

Anti-immigration: The rise of Trump and MAGA populism in the USA | www.devissues.nl

www.devissues.nl

This is the same old Marxist bullshit I've been hearing people peddle for 75 years.

Sorry, not buying it today.

 

[Cellblock2429]

What does MAGA get right? At its core, the MAGA movement tapped into a genuine frustration: life is harder than ever for working-class Americans. Many feel priced out, underpaid, and increasingly marginalized—this disillusionment is the one thing the movement accurately identifies. Inequality has deepened dramatically over the decades, with the bottom earners barely moving compared to the soaring gains at the top. For instance, between 1979 and 2007, the top 1% saw their after-tax earnings grow by 275%, while the bottom 20% only saw an 18% increase. Prices haven’t grown in the same manner so we are looking at the first generation to pass a worse standard of living to their children.

What does MAGA get wrong? Well, everything else. The movement fundamentally misdiagnosed who’s to blame. Instead of pointing to real structural forces causing the loss in power, it turns working-class discontent toward scapegoats—immigrants, welfare recipients—narratives amplified by wealthy leaders who benefit from the status quo. Trump and other elites deploy this rhetoric to deflect blame while implementing policies—like tax cuts and deregulation—that tilt further in favor of the already affluent. It’s a sleight of hand, three-ball-monte, grift that the working class cant see coming. “Where did the ball go?” They’ll ask in memorized stupor.

What is the truth? In truth, data overwhelmingly shows that the real crisis is wealth consolidation at the very top. The bottom half of Americans own barely a sliver of the nation’s wealth—just 2.5%—while the top 10% control over two-thirds. Because that concentration suppresses wages, narrows mobility, and widens inequality, it hurts working families far more than immigrants or welfare recipients ever could. The wealthy in the GOP have successfully labeled any attempt to dismantle the structural advantage the wealthy have bought through congressional influence as “socialism”, “Marxism”, “communism”, “wokeism”, or any number of scary sounding words that end in “ism” to keep the working class off the trail.

What is the solution? The working class needs to wake the **** up or live mired in its worsening status as the wealthy continue to gobble up everything. We are in a bifurcated or two level economy today. The wealthy and big corps are killing it while the consumer is struggling. We will see if they get around to diagnosing their problem or whether they continue to play into it and follow the Trumpian pied piper to blaming brown people, immigrants, and the poor. As if they have all the money.

Is wealth inequality leading to a class war?

In the past four decades, the gap between rich and poor has grown significantly. It’s a dangerous trend.

www.vox.com

Anti-immigration: The rise of Trump and MAGA populism in the USA | www.devissues.nl

www.devissues.nl

/----/ Ahhh, the old class envy dragon rears its ugly head again. Tax the rich—the solution to every problem except democRAT stupidity.

 

[22lcidw]

Great response. I guess you don’t like the look in the mirror.

You take no accountability of the growth of the federal government and the even worse growths of city, local, regional and state governments. All of the social agendas and the people needed to service them also, has taken more and more from the working man's pockets.

 

[citygator]

What do liberals get right? Almost nothing. What do liberals get wrong? Almost everything. They want to be able to pick and choose what laws to follow. Even they can not agree on which ones to disregard and which to follow. They want free handouts with the only idea on how to pay for it being the rich, only problem is they never have a plan for when there are no more rich. They want slaves but since that created such a reaction they will settle for wage slaves, someone they can pay pennies an hour for their their work.
They want everyone to embrace everyone no matter how mentally ill, do not even think of suggesting they get help.
They want teachers and others to make decisions on how someone’s children should be raised, taught, the idea is that way the child is brought up with their ideals.

This is a case study from maxdeath.

He really believes the poor are taking all the money and peddling the idea the rich might run out of money. I’ll bold those parts in his post I quoted.

The rest of his post attacks these scapegoats. Teachers, gays, immigrants. Three-ball-monte working on him.

 

[Hafar1014]

What does MAGA get right? At its core, the MAGA movement tapped into a genuine frustration: life is harder than ever for working-class Americans. Many feel priced out, underpaid, and increasingly marginalized—this disillusionment is the one thing the movement accurately identifies. Inequality has deepened dramatically over the decades, with the bottom earners barely moving compared to the soaring gains at the top. For instance, between 1979 and 2007, the top 1% saw their after-tax earnings grow by 275%, while the bottom 20% only saw an 18% increase. Prices haven’t grown in the same manner so we are looking at the first generation to pass a worse standard of living to their children.

What does MAGA get wrong? Well, everything else. The movement fundamentally misdiagnosed who’s to blame. Instead of pointing to real structural forces causing the loss in power, it turns working-class discontent toward scapegoats—immigrants, welfare recipients—narratives amplified by wealthy leaders who benefit from the status quo. Trump and other elites deploy this rhetoric to deflect blame while implementing policies—like tax cuts and deregulation—that tilt further in favor of the already affluent. It’s a sleight of hand, three-ball-monte, grift that the working class cant see coming. “Where did the ball go?” They’ll ask in memorized stupor.

What is the truth? In truth, data overwhelmingly shows that the real crisis is wealth consolidation at the very top. The bottom half of Americans own barely a sliver of the nation’s wealth—just 2.5%—while the top 10% control over two-thirds. Because that concentration suppresses wages, narrows mobility, and widens inequality, it hurts working families far more than immigrants or welfare recipients ever could. The wealthy in the GOP have successfully labeled any attempt to dismantle the structural advantage the wealthy have bought through congressional influence as “socialism”, “Marxism”, “communism”, “wokeism”, or any number of scary sounding words that end in “ism” to keep the working class off the trail.

What is the solution? The working class needs to wake the **** up or live mired in its worsening status as the wealthy continue to gobble up everything. We are in a bifurcated or two level economy today. The wealthy and big corps are killing it while the consumer is struggling. We will see if they get around to diagnosing their problem or whether they continue to play into it and follow the Trumpian pied piper to blaming brown people, immigrants, and the poor. As if they have all the money.

Is wealth inequality leading to a class war?

In the past four decades, the gap between rich and poor has grown significantly. It’s a dangerous trend.

www.vox.com

Anti-immigration: The rise of Trump and MAGA populism in the USA | www.devissues.nl

www.devissues.nl

The middle class and poor do better when Trump is president and worse when democrats are in control. Look at democrat cities and states people leaving in droves

 

[citygator]

/----/ Ahhh, the old class envy dragon rears its ugly head again. Tax the rich—the solution to every problem except democRAT stupidity.

Surface level criticism. In the 50’s, an era you righties long for, when the middle and working class could have a job the tax rates and wealth equity looked much better and less favorable to the rich. We weren’t seen as envious then… why now? Because you’ve been conditioned to believe any dollar the wealthy can’t gobble up is envy or socialism.

 

[Correll]

What does MAGA get right? At its core, the MAGA movement tapped into a genuine frustration: life is harder than ever for working-class Americans. Many feel priced out, underpaid, and increasingly marginalized—this disillusionment is the one thing the movement accurately identifies. Inequality has deepened dramatically over the decades, with the bottom earners barely moving compared to the soaring gains at the top. For instance, between 1979 and 2007, the top 1% saw their after-tax earnings grow by 275%, while the bottom 20% only saw an 18% increase. Prices haven’t grown in the same manner so we are looking at the first generation to pass a worse standard of living to their children.

Well said. I am impressed.

1979? Interesting date. I wonder what major policies were changed that led to the change in trends? Maybe that is where you are going?

What does MAGA get wrong? Well, everything else. The movement fundamentally misdiagnosed who’s to blame. Instead of pointing to real structural forces causing the loss in power, it turns working-class discontent toward scapegoats—immigrants, welfare recipients—narratives amplified by wealthy leaders who benefit from the status quo. Trump and other elites deploy this rhetoric to deflect blame while implementing policies—like tax cuts and deregulation—that tilt further in favor of the already affluent. It’s a sleight of hand, three-ball-monte, grift that the working class cant see coming. “Where did the ball go?” They’ll ask in memorized stupor.

But, MAGA has not "Scapegoated" immigrants. Flooding the labor pool, with third world labor is a real strategy by the political elite to lower wages.

Hell, they are OPENLY admitting that, in this current debate. I have constantly seen libs arguing that deporting illegals will raises labor costs, both in media and here in this site online.

SO, not only are you wrong here, but you are insulting MAGA for being dumb, based on you being dumb. That is annoying.

And it is the type of arrogance asshole-ness we working class whites have been getting for our entire lives from lying assholes like you.

Consider that when you wonder why we are so harsh with you and people like you, or even your political allies.

What is the truth? In truth, data overwhelmingly shows that the real crisis is wealth consolidation at the very top. The bottom half of Americans own barely a sliver of the nation’s wealth—just 2.5%—while the top 10% control over two-thirds. Because that concentration suppresses wages, narrows mobility, and widens inequality, it hurts working families far more than immigrants or welfare recipients ever could. The wealthy in the GOP have successfully labeled any attempt to dismantle the structural advantage the wealthy have bought through congressional influence as “socialism”, “Marxism”, “communism”, “wokeism”, or any number of scary sounding words that end in “ism” to keep the working class off the trail.

The danger of marxism, or just the general far left is real. The violent riots of the Trump years, show that, as does the rise of an admitted marxist to be the dem mayor candidate in NYC.


When people like that, people like you, get real control, it AT LEAST, comes with mass murder, and quite often, full blow genocides.

Not to mention totalitarian oppression of those lucky enough to not just be murdered.


SO, your... yeah, I'm afraid of the violent and hateful far left.

Hell on this site, I've regularly had lefties like yourself darkly hint at me and people like me "dying out" or being "culled".


So, yeah. Dumbass.

What is the solution? The working class needs to wake the **** up or live mired in its worsening status as the wealthy continue to gobble up everything. We are in a bifurcated or two level economy today. The wealthy and big corps are killing it while the consumer is struggling. We will see if they get around to diagnosing their problem or whether they continue to play into it and follow the Trumpian pied piper to blaming brown people, immigrants, and the poor. As if they have all the money.

Is wealth inequality leading to a class war?

In the past four decades, the gap between rich and poor has grown significantly. It’s a dangerous trend.

www.vox.com

Anti-immigration: The rise of Trump and MAGA populism in the USA | www.devissues.nl

www.devissues.nl

It is amusing that in the portion of your post on SOLUTIONS, you don't actualy offer any.

Deporting illegals, reducing immigration, reduces SUPPLY of labor, to increase wages. Lefties have admitted that.

Tariffs will encourage AMERICAN jobs. Leading to more demand.

Ending DIVERSITY, will reduce and hopefully, eventually eliminate anti-white discrimination in jobs, promotions, and education, to help white workers get ahead. NOt to mention just better quality service and products thoughout society.




You started out strong, but immediately ran into a wall. THe wall is the fact that your agenda is hostile to the insterests of America and Americans.


Hard to sell your agenda when that is the case.

 

[citygator]

This is the same old Marxist bullshit I've been hearing people peddle for 75 years.

Sorry, not buying it today.

Another victim of the isms. Was 1950’s America a Marxist dream? We had a much higher top tier tax back then.

 

[Maxdeath]

This is a case study from maxdeath.

He really believes the poor are taking all the money and peddling the idea the rich might run out of money. I’ll bold those parts in his post I quoted.

The rest of his post attacks this scapegoats. Teachers, gays, immigrants. Three-ball-monte working on him.

Aww did I hurt your little feelings

 

[Maxdeath]

So, like Trump?

So like Trump, Biden, Harris, Obama and a lot of others