What is this equal pay shit about when it comes to men and women?

[fbj]

How the fuck would a woman who is doing my same job know what the fuck I am making? Is she going to ask to see my pay stub so I can curse her the fuck out? Or she is going to go to HR and demand to see my file so she can confirm my salary? Hilary Clinton confirmed she is fucking retarded and has no business running for president

Equal Pay my ass crack

 

[Disir]

How many threads are you going to make for the same thing?

Quit your bitchen. Sooner or later the word gets out who makes what. Nobody needs to talk to you.

 

[fbj]

How many threads are you going to make for the same thing?

Quit your bitchen. Sooner or later the word gets out who makes what. Nobody needs to talk to you.

What you mean it gets out? HOW?

 

[Andylusion]

How the fuck would a woman who is doing my same job know what the fuck I am making? Is she going to ask to see my pay stub so I can curse her the fuck out? Or she is going to go to HR and demand to see my file so she can confirm my salary? Hilary Clinton confirmed she is fucking retarded and has no business running for president

Equal Pay my ass crack

Word gets out. It happens. Some idiot in HR, gets ticked off he was passed over for promotion, and uploads the payroll to Pirates Bay or something. It happens, and routinely.

By the way, this is why companies can end up being complete jerks. It's because people end up being jerks.

I remember being laid off, and they escorted me straight to the front door, and shoving me out. Wouldn't let me get the stuff at my desk. I had to come back another day, and pick up my stuff.

And the reason was supposedly because some guy they fired years ago, had gone back to his desk, and started copying files from the network.

So now, because employees are scum, now the companies treat people like dirt when they are let go.

 

[fbj]

How the fuck would a woman who is doing my same job know what the fuck I am making? Is she going to ask to see my pay stub so I can curse her the fuck out? Or she is going to go to HR and demand to see my file so she can confirm my salary? Hilary Clinton confirmed she is fucking retarded and has no business running for president

Equal Pay my ass crack

Word gets out. It happens. Some idiot in HR, gets ticked off he was passed over for promotion, and uploads the payroll to Pirates Bay or something. It happens, and routinely.

By the way, this is why companies can end up being complete jerks. It's because people end up being jerks.

I remember being laid off, and they escorted me straight to the front door, and shoving me out. Wouldn't let me get the stuff at my desk. I had to come back another day, and pick up my stuff.

And the reason was supposedly because some guy they fired years ago, had gone back to his desk, and started copying files from the network.

So now, because employees are scum, now the companies treat people like dirt when they are let go.

Maybe a guy is being paid more for doing the same job is because he has more experience or more education

At the end of the day it's no one business. I don't give a shit what any of my coworkers make

 

[Andylusion]

Well don't care either. It's never mattered to me.

But the fact is, whether you want it to, or not, that information gets out eventually. There are a few exceptions. Certain companies that keep a tight lid on it, but most of the time, it gets out.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

How many threads are you going to make for the same thing?

Quit your bitchen. Sooner or later the word gets out who makes what. Nobody needs to talk to you.

What you mean it gets out? HOW?

If you had a job you would know the answer to that

 

[fbj]

How many threads are you going to make for the same thing?

Quit your bitchen. Sooner or later the word gets out who makes what. Nobody needs to talk to you.

What you mean it gets out? HOW?

If you had a job you would know the answer to that

Do you make the same as your boyfriend?

 

[Manonthestreet]

 

[Disir]

How many threads are you going to make for the same thing?

Quit your bitchen. Sooner or later the word gets out who makes what. Nobody needs to talk to you.

What you mean it gets out? HOW?

Your boss or someone with equal power at some point will say something when you either do not perform or refuse to do the work you were hired to do. Heaven help you if you screw someone over or make the department look like shit. In some industries, or rather in some corporations, you will still find the pay gap; however, the pay gap has grown smaller not because men are making more but because they are making less. Had you made that argument you would have nailed it.

The reality is most people are hired at a base salary and the experience and education are the same..............unless you are related to someone or your sleeping with someone.

 

[Granny]

Word gets out not from HR, but from people who sit around discussing their paychecks (which they should not do) or if someone is stupid enough to leave their pay stubs in their desk drawer and someone who has a legitimate reason to be looking for something in another person's desk and sees the damned stub. Companies have to turn in all kinds of reports for the Department of Labor ... those reports don't have personnel names but do indicate "M" or "F" and positions, salaries, ethnic info, etc.That's how DOL gets it's information about everything. They also get a lot of info from the paperwork involved in union campaigns. Big Brother is everywhere.

 

[Disir]

Word gets out not from HR, but from people who sit around discussing their paychecks (which they should not do)

Why not?

 

[Granny]

Word gets out not from HR, but from people who sit around discussing their paychecks (which they should not do)

Why not?

Your pay check is your personal business. Discussing it with others sets up disgruntlement among other employees and eruptions like that in the OP.

 

[Disir]

Word gets out not from HR, but from people who sit around discussing their paychecks (which they should not do)

Why not?

Your pay check is your personal business. Discussing it with others sets up disgruntlement among other employees and eruptions like that in the OP.

In places with unions it isn't necessary. The name of the game for many corporations is isolation. How do workers combat that?

 

[Valerie]

January 29, 2016

FACT SHEET: New Steps to Advance Equal Pay on the Seventh Anniversary of the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act


Today, the President is highlighting several additional actions that his Administration is taking to further advance equal pay for all workers and to further empower working families:

• EEOC Action on Pay Data Collection: The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), in partnership with the Department of Labor, is publishing a proposal to annually collect summary pay data by gender, race, and ethnicity from businesses with 100 or more employees. The proposal would cover over 63 million employees. This step – stemming from a recommendation of the President’s Equal Pay Task Force and a Presidential Memorandum issued in April 2014 – will help focus public enforcement of our equal pay laws and provide better insight into discriminatory pay practices across industries and occupations. It expands on and replaces an earlier plan by the Department of Labor to collect similar information from federal contractors.
• Call to action: The President is renewing his call to Congress to take up and pass the Paycheck Fairness Act, commonsense legislation that would give women additional tools to fight pay discrimination. States are increasingly taking action to fight pay discrimination, such as California and New York which passed equal pay laws last year and a number of states that will see legislation introduced this year. The President urges states—and employers—to take action to advance pay equality.
• White House Report: The Council of Economic Advisers is releasing an issue brief, “The Gender Pay Gap on the Anniversary of the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act,” that explores the state of the gender wage gap, the factors that influence it, and policies put forward by this Administration that can help address it. The brief highlights that the U.S. gender wage gap is now 2.5 percentage points larger than the average for industrialized countries. It also points to significant progress made since 2000 by the United Kingdom to reduce their pay gap by almost 9 percentage points and by Japan, Belgium, Ireland, and Denmark to reduce each of theirs by around 7 percentage points.
• 2016 White House Summit: The White House will host a Summit on “The United State of Women” on May 23rd together with the Department of State, the Department of Labor, the Aspen Institute, and Civic Nation. The summit, which comes nearly two years after the first-ever White House Summit on Working Families, will create an opportunity to mark the progress made on behalf of women and girls domestically and internationally over the course of this Administration and to discuss solutions to the challenges they still face. The Summit is being held with additional cooperation from Goldman Sachs 10,000 Women, the Tory Burch Foundation and the Ford Foundation.

FACT SHEET: New Steps to Advance Equal Pay on the Seventh Anniversary of the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act

 

[Granny]

Word gets out not from HR, but from people who sit around discussing their paychecks (which they should not do)

Why not?

Your pay check is your personal business. Discussing it with others sets up disgruntlement among other employees and eruptions like that in the OP.

In places with unions it isn't necessary. The name of the game for many corporations is isolation. How do workers combat that?

Trust me when I tell you info is collected during union campaigns. There's a thing called an "Excelsior List" that's a real pain in the tush to deal with. Companies are REQUIRED to produce to the unions a list of all employees eligible to join a union - names, addresses, home phone numbers in alphabetical order, two columns per page, ten names per column. That info sometimes comes in bits and pieces so that the lists are being constantly revised to keep them in order. As a secretary for labor lawyers I got damned tired of it and finally worked out a little "program" using tables that would automatically reorganize that mess for me. That's how unions know where you are so they can call you or come to your house and terrorize you and your family into joining the damned unions. Having worked for labor lawyers is why I know about various info that gets to DOL. There's lots of stuff that your normal everyday employee doesn't know about corporation - all they see is less money in their paycheck than they would like to see. There's a whole lot of stuff that doesn't show up on your paycheck ... but it goes into corporate budgeting that produces that paycheck.

 

[Trump.Stamped]

NBA vs WNBA. They should get paid the same.

 

[Andylusion]

How many threads are you going to make for the same thing?

Quit your bitchen. Sooner or later the word gets out who makes what. Nobody needs to talk to you.

What you mean it gets out? HOW?

Your boss or someone with equal power at some point will say something when you either do not perform or refuse to do the work you were hired to do. Heaven help you if you screw someone over or make the department look like shit. In some industries, or rather in some corporations, you will still find the pay gap; however, the pay gap has grown smaller not because men are making more but because they are making less. Had you made that argument you would have nailed it.

The reality is most people are hired at a base salary and the experience and education are the same..............unless you are related to someone or your sleeping with someone.

January 29, 2016

FACT SHEET: New Steps to Advance Equal Pay on the Seventh Anniversary of the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act


Today, the President is highlighting several additional actions that his Administration is taking to further advance equal pay for all workers and to further empower working families:

• EEOC Action on Pay Data Collection: The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), in partnership with the Department of Labor, is publishing a proposal to annually collect summary pay data by gender, race, and ethnicity from businesses with 100 or more employees. The proposal would cover over 63 million employees. This step – stemming from a recommendation of the President’s Equal Pay Task Force and a Presidential Memorandum issued in April 2014 – will help focus public enforcement of our equal pay laws and provide better insight into discriminatory pay practices across industries and occupations. It expands on and replaces an earlier plan by the Department of Labor to collect similar information from federal contractors.
• Call to action: The President is renewing his call to Congress to take up and pass the Paycheck Fairness Act, commonsense legislation that would give women additional tools to fight pay discrimination. States are increasingly taking action to fight pay discrimination, such as California and New York which passed equal pay laws last year and a number of states that will see legislation introduced this year. The President urges states—and employers—to take action to advance pay equality.
• White House Report: The Council of Economic Advisers is releasing an issue brief, “The Gender Pay Gap on the Anniversary of the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act,” that explores the state of the gender wage gap, the factors that influence it, and policies put forward by this Administration that can help address it. The brief highlights that the U.S. gender wage gap is now 2.5 percentage points larger than the average for industrialized countries. It also points to significant progress made since 2000 by the United Kingdom to reduce their pay gap by almost 9 percentage points and by Japan, Belgium, Ireland, and Denmark to reduce each of theirs by around 7 percentage points.
• 2016 White House Summit: The White House will host a Summit on “The United State of Women” on May 23rd together with the Department of State, the Department of Labor, the Aspen Institute, and Civic Nation. The summit, which comes nearly two years after the first-ever White House Summit on Working Families, will create an opportunity to mark the progress made on behalf of women and girls domestically and internationally over the course of this Administration and to discuss solutions to the challenges they still face. The Summit is being held with additional cooperation from Goldman Sachs 10,000 Women, the Tory Burch Foundation and the Ford Foundation.

FACT SHEET: New Steps to Advance Equal Pay on the Seventh Anniversary of the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act

Yeah, I've read that one reason pay-gaps are smaller in some countries, is simply because companies where a pay gap would exist, simply don't hire women.

In business where women earn the same as men already, they have no problem hiring women. In other companies where wage gaps typically exist, they simply don't hire women. Thus there is no pay gap, because there are no women at that company. Therefore, the pay gap is smaller.

The country they were researching this in, was Norway, which is ironically one of the countries they point to as being so 'fair'.

If I can find that research, I'll post it again. It's on this forum somewhere, buried in a thread from a year ago or something.

Anyway, just speaking for myself... if they started filling lawsuits for wage differences, I'd refuse to hire any women as well. Think about it... every woman you hire, is a potential lawsuit. Solution... don't hire them.

How unfair would that be to my existing employees? I can't give a raise to any male employee on my staff, because if they got a raise, and some women did not, I would be at risk of a lawsuit and a public execution in the media. Better to not hire women.

 

[fbj]

NBA vs WNBA. They should get paid the same.

You better be joking or I will suggest you move to LOONEY TOONS AVENUE

 

[Disir]

Word gets out not from HR, but from people who sit around discussing their paychecks (which they should not do)

Why not?

Your pay check is your personal business. Discussing it with others sets up disgruntlement among other employees and eruptions like that in the OP.

In places with unions it isn't necessary. The name of the game for many corporations is isolation. How do workers combat that?

Trust me when I tell you info is collected during union campaigns. There's a thing called an "Excelsior List" that's a real pain in the tush to deal with. Companies are REQUIRED to produce to the unions a list of all employees eligible to join a union - names, addresses, home phone numbers in alphabetical order, two columns per page, ten names per column. That info sometimes comes in bits and pieces so that the lists are being constantly revised to keep them in order. As a secretary for labor lawyers I got damned tired of it and finally worked out a little "program" using tables that would automatically reorganize that mess for me. That's how unions know where you are so they can call you or come to your house and terrorize you and your family into joining the damned unions. Having worked for labor lawyers is why I know about various info that gets to DOL. There's lots of stuff that your normal everyday employee doesn't know about corporation - all they see is less money in their paycheck than they would like to see. There's a whole lot of stuff that doesn't show up on your paycheck ... but it goes into corporate budgeting that produces that paycheck.

After an election petition is filed with NLRB. That has to happen first.