What is the world supposed to do with the Iranian regime, or what were they supposed to do with them?

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Iran began its current regime with a coup over the Shah of Iran in 1979, as the Iranian regime illegally took over the US embassy in their own country and held American prisoners for years. But the US allowed it and basically did nothing to punish them as they negotiated their release. God only knows what the US gave them in return for the release of those hostages, which only emboldened them. For you see, it was their position that both Israel and the US were "The Great Satan" of the world, therefore, fighting them with any means possible was justifiable and righteous, because they were just that evil. Since then, they have been chanting death to America and death to Israel pretty much every day of every year since. And many of you may agree and would like to assist them in destroying both Israel and America because they deserve it. Basically, it is the final and only answer to all the evils both countries have supposedly done to them and the world.

But Iran was not a world power that could directly confront the US and Israel, so it used its oil revenue to fund terrorism against both powers by funding various proxies like Hezbollah and Hamas and the Houthis. It also began a weapons program to create ballistic missiles than could reach those countries as well as possible WMD's to put on those weapons, thus giving them for the first time an ability to directly attack and confront both countries. This is what President Trump said he was there to prevent in the most recent attack on them.

So, how has Iran attacked the US over the years?


April 1983: A suicide car bombing kills 63 people, including 17 Americans, at the U.S. Embassy in Beirut. The Iran-backed terrorist group Islamic Jihad, a precursor and early branch of Hezbollah (not to be confused with Palestinian Islamic Jihad), claims responsibility.

October 1983: Operatives of the Iran-backed Hezbollah drive a truck bomb at a Marine compound in Beirut, killing 220 U.S. Marines and 21 other service personnel.

December 1983: Hezbollah operatives drive an explosives-filled dump truck through the gates of the U.S. Embassy in Kuwait City. No Americans are harmed.

March 1984: Terrorists kidnap CIA station chief William Buckley in Beirut, subsequently torturing and ultimately killing him in 1985. Islamic Jihad claims responsibility.

December 1984: Hezbollah terrorists hijack Kuwait Airways Flight 221 on its way from Kuwait to Pakistan and divert it to Tehran, killing two American officials from the U.S. Agency for International Development.

June 1985: Hezbollah terrorists hijack TWA Flight 847 en route from Athens to Rome and kill a U.S. Navy diver.

July 1989: Hezbollah operatives kill U.S. Marine Corps Col. William Higgins after kidnapping him the previous year while on a UN peacekeeping mission in southern Lebanon.

April 1995: An explosives-laden van crashes into a bus near Kfar Darom in the Gaza Strip, killing one American and seven Israelis. Palestinian Islamic Jihad claims responsibility.

August 1995: A Hamas suicide bomber blows up a bus in the Ramat Eshkol neighborhood of Jerusalem, killing an American and three other passengers and wounding more than 100.

February 1996: A Hamas suicide bomber blows up a Jerusalem bus, killing three Americans and wounding three other Americans. A total of 26 people die in the attack.

March 1996: A suicide bomber blows up the Dizengoff shopping center in Tel Aviv, wounding two Americans. Twenty people die and 75 others are injured in the attack. Both Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad claim responsibility.

May 1996: Gunmen kill an American-Israeli dual citizen in the community of Beit El in the West Bank. Another U.S. citizen and three Israelis are wounded. No group claims responsibility, but Israel suspects Hamas or Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

June 1996: A truck carrying 5,000 pounds of explosives blows up the Khobar Towers, a U.S. Air Force housing complex in the Saudi Arabian town of Khobar. Nineteen Americans die and some 500 people are injured. The Iran-backed Hezbollah Al Hijaz, a terrorist group in Saudi Arabia, is deemed responsible.

September 1997: Three Hamas suicide bombers blow themselves up at the Ben Yehuda shopping mall in Jerusalem, killing a U.S.-Israeli dual citizen and wounding seven other American citizens. Four other people die and nearly 200 are wounded in the attack.

August 1998: With the assistance of Hezbollah, al-Qaeda suicide bombers almost simultaneously blow up the U.S. Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, killing 224 people, including 12 Americans, and wounding thousands. According to the 9/11 Commission Report, al-Qaeda developed “the tactical expertise for such attacks months earlier, when some of its operatives — top military committee members and several operatives who were involved with the Kenya cell among them — were sent to Hezbollah training camps in Lebanon.”

August 2001: A Hamas suicide bomber blows up the Sbarro pizzeria in Jerusalem, killing a U.S.-Israeli dual citizen and two other Americans. A total of 15 people die in the attack.

September 11, 2001: While the 9/11 Commission Report concludes that Iran had no foreknowledge of al-Qaeda’s attacks on the World Trade Center, the report indicates that Tehran facilitated the travel of some of the terrorists. “In sum,” the report notes, “there is strong evidence that Iran facilitated the transit of al Qaeda members into and out of Afghanistan before 9/11, and that some of these were future 9/11 hijackers.”

January 2002: Gunmen affiliated with the Iran-backed al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigade kill a U.S.-Israeli dual citizen and wound another individual in the West Bank community of Beit Sahur.

July 2002: A bomb planted by a Hamas terrorist kills five American students at Jerusalem’s Hebrew University, including an American-Israeli dual citizen and an American-French dual citizen. A total of nine people die in the attack.

June 2003: An American citizen, along with 16 other people, die when a Hamas terrorist blows himself up on a bus in Jerusalem.

October 2003: Terrorists from the Iran-backed Popular Resistance Committees kill three U.S. diplomatic personnel in a bombing in Gaza.

2003-2011: Iranian-backed militias kill at least 603 U.S. troops in Iraq, according to the Pentagon. Iranian training and material support for Iraqi militias during the surge greatly increased the difficulties U.S. forces faced while combating the insurgency and included some of the deadliest weapons used against American troops, such as explosively formed penetrators (EFPs) and improvised explosive devices (IEDs).

August 2003: A Hamas suicide bomber blows up a bus in Jerusalem, killing five Americans and wounding one other American. A total of 24 people die in the attack.

August 2006: Hezbollah fighters kill American citizen Michael Levin, a soldier in the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), during the Second Lebanon War. He is the only American to die in the conflict.

January 2007: Twelve men affiliated with the Quds Force of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) disguise themselves as U.S. soldiers, enter the Provincial Joint Coordination Center in the Iraqi city of Karbala, kill five U.S. soldiers, and wound another three. In 2019, the U.S. State Department issues a $15 million bounty for information on an IRGC Quds Force commander who planned the attack and other “assassinations of coalition forces in Iraq.”

July 2014: Hamas terrorists kill two Americans serving in the IDF during fighting between the terrorist group and Israel in Gaza as part of Operation Protective Edge.

October 2015: Hamas terrorists kill an American citizen and his wife, residents of the West Bank community of Neria, in their car in a drive-by shooting.

December 2019: Rockets fired by Kataib Hezbollah, an Iran-backed militia, kill an American security contractor and wound several U.S. service members and Iraqi personnel at the K1 military base in the Iraqi city of Kirkuk.

January 2020: A direct Iranian ballistic missile attack against the Ain al-Asad airbase in Iraq causes more than 100 U.S. troops to suffer traumatic brain injuries.

March 2020: The family of former FBI agent Robert Levinson, who disappeared in Iran in 2007, announces that he likely died in an Iranian prison at an unknown date.

September 2020: U.S. intelligence reports indicate that Iran is weighing a plot to assassinate U.S. Ambassador to South Africa Lana Marks.

February 2021: A rocket fired by an Iran-backed militia at coalition forces in the Iraqi city of Erbil wounds a U.S. service member and four U.S. civilian contractors.

July 2021: Iranian-backed militias conduct at least three rocket and drone attacks against U.S. forces in 24 hours in Iraq and Syria, wounding two U.S. service members.

September 2022: An Iranian rocket attack kills an American citizen in Iraqi Kurdistan.

November 2022: A captain in Iran’s IRGC orchestrates the killing of an American citizen living in Baghdad who worked at an English language institute.

March 2023: An Iranian drone kills an American contractor and wounds five service members and another contractor when it strikes a coalition base near the Syrian city of Hasakah.

October 7, 2023: Hamas kills at least 48 Americans and kidnaps at least 12 Americans in a massacre of 1,200 people in southern Israel.

December 2023: A drone attack conducted by an Iranian-backed Iraqi militia against U.S. forces in Erbil wounds three American soldiers, including one critically injured with shrapnel to the head, which placed him in a coma.

January 2024: A drone launched by Kataib Hezbollah kills three U.S. soldiers at a U.S. military base in Jordan and wounds more than 40 other service members.

October 2024: Iran executes German-Iranian national and U.S. permanent resident Jamshid Sharmahd on fraudulent terrorism charges.

November 2024: A report released by the Foundation for Defense of Democracies indicates that Iran and its proxies have conducted more than 180 attacks against U.S. forces in the Middle East between October 17, 2023, and November 19, 2024, resulting in more than 180 wounded and three killed U.S. service members.

November 2024: The U.S. Department of Justice announces charges against an Iranian national and two American accomplices for plotting to assassinate President Trump.

March 2025: A U.S. jury convicts two agents of Iran for plotting to assassinate Iranian-American journalist Masih Alinejad in New York in 2022.

June 2025: At least three U.S. bases in Syria and two U.S. bases in Iraq are attacked with missiles or drones, likely by Iranian-backed militias.

March 2026: Six American soldiers are killed in action during U.S. operations against Iran.

So, those that question the "right" of the US to attack Iran directly overlook these attacks somehow, along with the international community. Somehow, I guess the US had it coming to them and deserved it, which is what the Left believes for the most part. These proxy wars don't really count as international illegal acts and should be ignored as you let them continue this line of aggression unopposed, or so you would be led to believe by the media and the Left.

It is akin to how the Left views the issue with blacks in America. For you see, they point to slavery in the Deep South as evidence of how evil the US really is, despite overlooking the fact that slavery at that time occurred all over the world as well. They then point to the oppression of Blacks after the slavery during the Jim Crow era as further evidence of just how evil the US really is, despite overlooking that white Americans fought the bloodiest war in US history to free those slaves in the first place. Somehow, that does not count either to make amends for the sins of their past in any way and never will. In fact, the Left insists to this day that the US pay endless reparations to indiscriminate African Americans till the end of time, people who were never slaves and may not have even had a history of slavery in their blood line, like Kamala Harris whose ancestors owned slaves, but because of the color of their skin, they deserve it. But despite the fact that no amount of money can make up for the sins of the past, Americans must pay it anyway. The never-ending oppression of white folk I guess is their just deserts. But it goes beyond the money. Somehow the fact that jail cells are predominantly filled with African Americans is also unacceptable, even though they may be guilty of the crimes that got them there. But somehow those crimes must now be overlooked because the US made them do it, and all based on the oppression that their race received in the past. So, it is not only understandable that they would kill and oppress white Americans, they should also be freed from jail as soon as possible. But the problem is, most of their crimes are black on black crimes and not against white people. Yet this too is overlooked, and all because the US regime is at its roots evil, and as such, unredeemable and must be destroyed.

Iran is viewed in a similar light. Just like the Black-on-Black violence in America must be overlooked, the fact that Iran has just recently murdered over 30 thousand of its own people must also be overlooked. The fact that Iran attacked all of its neighboring countries who had NOTHING to do with the US attack must also be overlooked. And the fact that it has oppressed its people, especially women and gays, since their revolution as well as all of the proxy wars across the Middle East that have murdered hundreds of thousands must also be overlooked.

What in the hell has the UN ever done about Iran? What has the international community ever done about Iran? The UN is too busy writing resolutions against Israel to even be bothered because that is the only country they seem to enjoy reprimanding.

Currently, Iran is not allowing oil to flow to the rest of the world despite the fact that these countries had nothing to do with the American attack that just occurred. Why? As Trump said, this is YOUR problem now. The international community must get off their arse and finally hold Iran accountable for something and stop overlooking their own crimes against their own people and against the international community. As Trump said, the US does not need any of their oil, so it is not their problem.
 
444 days which doesn't qualify as "years".
 
444 days which doesn't qualify as "years".
Year and a half?

Is that really your only retort?

That proves it, this post was full of lies so ignore it all and then cancel me while you are at it!!!

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Year and a half?

Is that really your only retort?

That proves it, this post was full of lies so ignore it all and then cancel me while you are at it!!!

:auiqs.jpg:

If you are going to post something and have a point to make you don't have to exaggerate to make it.

We refused to return the Shah also.
 
Iran began its current regime with a coup over the Shah of Iran in 1979, as the Iranian regime illegally took over the US embassy in their own country and held American prisoners for years. But the US allowed it and basically did nothing to punish them as they negotiated their release. God only knows what the US gave them in return for the release of those hostages, which only emboldened them. For you see, it was their position that both Israel and the US were "The Great Satan" of the world, therefore, fighting them with any means possible was justifiable and righteous, because they were just that evil. Since then, they have been chanting death to America and death to Israel pretty much every day of every year since. And many of you may agree and would like to assist them in destroying both Israel and America because they deserve it. Basically, it is the final and only answer to all the evils both countries have supposedly done to them and the world.

But Iran was not a world power that could directly confront the US and Israel, so it used its oil revenue to fund terrorism against both powers by funding various proxies like Hezbollah and Hamas and the Houthis. It also began a weapons program to create ballistic missiles than could reach those countries as well as possible WMD's to put on those weapons, thus giving them for the first time an ability to directly attack and confront both countries. This is what President Trump said he was there to prevent in the most recent attack on them.

So, how has Iran attacked the US over the years?


April 1983: A suicide car bombing kills 63 people, including 17 Americans, at the U.S. Embassy in Beirut. The Iran-backed terrorist group Islamic Jihad, a precursor and early branch of Hezbollah (not to be confused with Palestinian Islamic Jihad), claims responsibility.

October 1983: Operatives of the Iran-backed Hezbollah drive a truck bomb at a Marine compound in Beirut, killing 220 U.S. Marines and 21 other service personnel.

December 1983: Hezbollah operatives drive an explosives-filled dump truck through the gates of the U.S. Embassy in Kuwait City. No Americans are harmed.

March 1984: Terrorists kidnap CIA station chief William Buckley in Beirut, subsequently torturing and ultimately killing him in 1985. Islamic Jihad claims responsibility.

December 1984: Hezbollah terrorists hijack Kuwait Airways Flight 221 on its way from Kuwait to Pakistan and divert it to Tehran, killing two American officials from the U.S. Agency for International Development.

June 1985: Hezbollah terrorists hijack TWA Flight 847 en route from Athens to Rome and kill a U.S. Navy diver.

July 1989: Hezbollah operatives kill U.S. Marine Corps Col. William Higgins after kidnapping him the previous year while on a UN peacekeeping mission in southern Lebanon.

April 1995: An explosives-laden van crashes into a bus near Kfar Darom in the Gaza Strip, killing one American and seven Israelis. Palestinian Islamic Jihad claims responsibility.

August 1995: A Hamas suicide bomber blows up a bus in the Ramat Eshkol neighborhood of Jerusalem, killing an American and three other passengers and wounding more than 100.

February 1996: A Hamas suicide bomber blows up a Jerusalem bus, killing three Americans and wounding three other Americans. A total of 26 people die in the attack.

March 1996: A suicide bomber blows up the Dizengoff shopping center in Tel Aviv, wounding two Americans. Twenty people die and 75 others are injured in the attack. Both Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad claim responsibility.

May 1996: Gunmen kill an American-Israeli dual citizen in the community of Beit El in the West Bank. Another U.S. citizen and three Israelis are wounded. No group claims responsibility, but Israel suspects Hamas or Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

June 1996: A truck carrying 5,000 pounds of explosives blows up the Khobar Towers, a U.S. Air Force housing complex in the Saudi Arabian town of Khobar. Nineteen Americans die and some 500 people are injured. The Iran-backed Hezbollah Al Hijaz, a terrorist group in Saudi Arabia, is deemed responsible.

September 1997: Three Hamas suicide bombers blow themselves up at the Ben Yehuda shopping mall in Jerusalem, killing a U.S.-Israeli dual citizen and wounding seven other American citizens. Four other people die and nearly 200 are wounded in the attack.

August 1998: With the assistance of Hezbollah, al-Qaeda suicide bombers almost simultaneously blow up the U.S. Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, killing 224 people, including 12 Americans, and wounding thousands. According to the 9/11 Commission Report, al-Qaeda developed “the tactical expertise for such attacks months earlier, when some of its operatives — top military committee members and several operatives who were involved with the Kenya cell among them — were sent to Hezbollah training camps in Lebanon.”

August 2001: A Hamas suicide bomber blows up the Sbarro pizzeria in Jerusalem, killing a U.S.-Israeli dual citizen and two other Americans. A total of 15 people die in the attack.

September 11, 2001: While the 9/11 Commission Report concludes that Iran had no foreknowledge of al-Qaeda’s attacks on the World Trade Center, the report indicates that Tehran facilitated the travel of some of the terrorists. “In sum,” the report notes, “there is strong evidence that Iran facilitated the transit of al Qaeda members into and out of Afghanistan before 9/11, and that some of these were future 9/11 hijackers.”

January 2002: Gunmen affiliated with the Iran-backed al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigade kill a U.S.-Israeli dual citizen and wound another individual in the West Bank community of Beit Sahur.

July 2002: A bomb planted by a Hamas terrorist kills five American students at Jerusalem’s Hebrew University, including an American-Israeli dual citizen and an American-French dual citizen. A total of nine people die in the attack.

June 2003: An American citizen, along with 16 other people, die when a Hamas terrorist blows himself up on a bus in Jerusalem.

October 2003: Terrorists from the Iran-backed Popular Resistance Committees kill three U.S. diplomatic personnel in a bombing in Gaza.

2003-2011: Iranian-backed militias kill at least 603 U.S. troops in Iraq, according to the Pentagon. Iranian training and material support for Iraqi militias during the surge greatly increased the difficulties U.S. forces faced while combating the insurgency and included some of the deadliest weapons used against American troops, such as explosively formed penetrators (EFPs) and improvised explosive devices (IEDs).

August 2003: A Hamas suicide bomber blows up a bus in Jerusalem, killing five Americans and wounding one other American. A total of 24 people die in the attack.

August 2006: Hezbollah fighters kill American citizen Michael Levin, a soldier in the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), during the Second Lebanon War. He is the only American to die in the conflict.

January 2007: Twelve men affiliated with the Quds Force of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) disguise themselves as U.S. soldiers, enter the Provincial Joint Coordination Center in the Iraqi city of Karbala, kill five U.S. soldiers, and wound another three. In 2019, the U.S. State Department issues a $15 million bounty for information on an IRGC Quds Force commander who planned the attack and other “assassinations of coalition forces in Iraq.”

July 2014: Hamas terrorists kill two Americans serving in the IDF during fighting between the terrorist group and Israel in Gaza as part of Operation Protective Edge.

October 2015: Hamas terrorists kill an American citizen and his wife, residents of the West Bank community of Neria, in their car in a drive-by shooting.

December 2019: Rockets fired by Kataib Hezbollah, an Iran-backed militia, kill an American security contractor and wound several U.S. service members and Iraqi personnel at the K1 military base in the Iraqi city of Kirkuk.

January 2020: A direct Iranian ballistic missile attack against the Ain al-Asad airbase in Iraq causes more than 100 U.S. troops to suffer traumatic brain injuries.

March 2020: The family of former FBI agent Robert Levinson, who disappeared in Iran in 2007, announces that he likely died in an Iranian prison at an unknown date.

September 2020: U.S. intelligence reports indicate that Iran is weighing a plot to assassinate U.S. Ambassador to South Africa Lana Marks.

February 2021: A rocket fired by an Iran-backed militia at coalition forces in the Iraqi city of Erbil wounds a U.S. service member and four U.S. civilian contractors.

July 2021: Iranian-backed militias conduct at least three rocket and drone attacks against U.S. forces in 24 hours in Iraq and Syria, wounding two U.S. service members.

September 2022: An Iranian rocket attack kills an American citizen in Iraqi Kurdistan.

November 2022: A captain in Iran’s IRGC orchestrates the killing of an American citizen living in Baghdad who worked at an English language institute.

March 2023: An Iranian drone kills an American contractor and wounds five service members and another contractor when it strikes a coalition base near the Syrian city of Hasakah.

October 7, 2023: Hamas kills at least 48 Americans and kidnaps at least 12 Americans in a massacre of 1,200 people in southern Israel.

December 2023: A drone attack conducted by an Iranian-backed Iraqi militia against U.S. forces in Erbil wounds three American soldiers, including one critically injured with shrapnel to the head, which placed him in a coma.

January 2024: A drone launched by Kataib Hezbollah kills three U.S. soldiers at a U.S. military base in Jordan and wounds more than 40 other service members.

October 2024: Iran executes German-Iranian national and U.S. permanent resident Jamshid Sharmahd on fraudulent terrorism charges.

November 2024: A report released by the Foundation for Defense of Democracies indicates that Iran and its proxies have conducted more than 180 attacks against U.S. forces in the Middle East between October 17, 2023, and November 19, 2024, resulting in more than 180 wounded and three killed U.S. service members.

November 2024: The U.S. Department of Justice announces charges against an Iranian national and two American accomplices for plotting to assassinate President Trump.

March 2025: A U.S. jury convicts two agents of Iran for plotting to assassinate Iranian-American journalist Masih Alinejad in New York in 2022.

June 2025: At least three U.S. bases in Syria and two U.S. bases in Iraq are attacked with missiles or drones, likely by Iranian-backed militias.

March 2026: Six American soldiers are killed in action during U.S. operations against Iran.

So, those that question the "right" of the US to attack Iran directly overlook these attacks somehow, along with the international community. Somehow, I guess the US had it coming to them and deserved it, which is what the Left believes for the most part. These proxy wars don't really count as international illegal acts and should be ignored as you let them continue this line of aggression unopposed, or so you would be led to believe by the media and the Left.

It is akin to how the Left views the issue with blacks in America. For you see, they point to slavery in the Deep South as evidence of how evil the US really is, despite overlooking the fact that slavery at that time occurred all over the world as well. They then point to the oppression of Blacks after the slavery during the Jim Crow era as further evidence of just how evil the US really is, despite overlooking that white Americans fought the bloodiest war in US history to free those slaves in the first place. Somehow, that does not count either to make amends for the sins of their past in any way and never will. In fact, the Left insists to this day that the US pay endless reparations to indiscriminate African Americans till the end of time, people who were never slaves and may not have even had a history of slavery in their blood line, like Kamala Harris whose ancestors owned slaves, but because of the color of their skin, they deserve it. But despite the fact that no amount of money can make up for the sins of the past, Americans must pay it anyway. The never-ending oppression of white folk I guess is their just deserts. But it goes beyond the money. Somehow the fact that jail cells are predominantly filled with African Americans is also unacceptable, even though they may be guilty of the crimes that got them there. But somehow those crimes must now be overlooked because the US made them do it, and all based on the oppression that their race received in the past. So, it is not only understandable that they would kill and oppress white Americans, they should also be freed from jail as soon as possible. But the problem is, most of their crimes are black on black crimes and not against white people. Yet this too is overlooked, and all because the US regime is at its roots evil, and as such, unredeemable and must be destroyed.

Iran is viewed in a similar light. Just like the Black-on-Black violence in America must be overlooked, the fact that Iran has just recently murdered over 30 thousand of its own people must also be overlooked. The fact that Iran attacked all of its neighboring countries who had NOTHING to do with the US attack must also be overlooked. And the fact that it has oppressed its people, especially women and gays, since their revolution as well as all of the proxy wars across the Middle East that have murdered hundreds of thousands must also be overlooked.

What in the hell has the UN ever done about Iran? What has the international community ever done about Iran? The UN is too busy writing resolutions against Israel to even be bothered because that is the only country they seem to enjoy reprimanding.

Currently, Iran is not allowing oil to flow to the rest of the world despite the fact that these countries had nothing to do with the American attack that just occurred. Why? As Trump said, this is YOUR problem now. The international community must get off their arse and finally hold Iran accountable for something and stop overlooking their own crimes against their own people and against the international community. As Trump said, the US does not need any of their oil, so it is not their problem.

444 days which doesn't qualify as "years".
STFU. This has been coming since 1979. "Oh! They only held them hostage for 444 days". Gah! Bust yourself right in the mouth for me, dumbass!
If you are going to post something and have a point to make you don't have to exaggerate to make it.

We refused to return the Shah also.
Thank you for laying out why this is happening to people that don't know.
Every president since Ford should have done what Trump is doing.
That's the truth of the matter.
 
STFU. This has been coming since 1979. "Oh! They only held them hostage for 444 days". Gah! Bust yourself right in the mouth for me, dumbass!

Thank you for laying out why this is happening to people that don't know.
Every president since Ford should have done what Trump is doing.
That's the truth of the matter.

Trump is accomplishing nothing, just like Biden, Obama and Bush before him.

Well other than running up the debt that the rest of the world will end up using against us.
 
Trump is accomplishing nothing, just like Biden, Obama and Bush before him.

Well other than running up the debt that the rest of the world will end up using against us.
Yeah, no. Dumbass.
 
Trump is accomplishing nothing, just like Biden, Obama and Bush before him.

Well other than running up the debt that the rest of the world will end up using against us.
Trump is trying to buy time.

He decimated their military ability and their weapons program.

Make no mistake, they will rebuild it but it cost them time.

And really, with death staring us all in the face, that is all any of us are trying to buy, just more time.

It also will probably curb terrorism throughout the Middle East for a while.
 
If you are going to post something and have a point to make you don't have to exaggerate to make it.

We refused to return the Shah also.
Was the Shah worse do you think?

All world governments suck arse, but is it your position that the Shah was worse?

If so, why?

Is this better?

 
Trump is trying to buy time.

He decimated their military ability and their weapons program.

Yet their bombs continue to fall.

With no military they seem to still be able to control the straits.


Make no mistake, they will rebuild it but it cost them time.

And really, with death staring us all in the face, that is all any of us are trying to buy, just more time.

So what is the point if "they" can simply rebuild? We have to start a war with them every few years?
 
Was the Shah worse do you think?

All world governments suck arse, but is it your position that the Shah was worse?

If so, why?

Is this better?



Worse? He was awful. See, it's sad, we are all good with his brutal treatment of the people of Iran just because he would let us control his oil.


 
Yet their bombs continue to fall.

With no military they seem to still be able to control the straits.




Some what is the point if "they" can simply rebuild? We have to start a war with them every few years?
Start a war with them every few years?

They have been at war with the world since 1979, specifically targeting the US and Israel

Would you like to continue to pretend that this is not the case as you claim the US and Israel to be war criminals for returning fire?

If so, you have a rich fantasy life.
 
Worse? He was awful. See, it's sad, we are all good with his brutal treatment of the people of Iran just because he would let us control his oil.



Again, the US it not getting their oil.

Try again.

Do you really think that the US and Israel enjoys bombing schools for girls in Iran like Candace Owens and Tucker Carleson and the rest of Legacy media would have you believe? It this is what is behind their aggression?

These are the same loons that would have you believe that Israel enjoys murdering people in Gaza.

Shrug, it's just a hobby is all.
 
Start a war with them every few years?

They have been at war with the world since 1979, specifically targeting the US and Israel

Would you like to continue to pretend that this is not the case as you claim the US and Israel to be war criminals for returning fire?

If so, you have a rich fantasy life.

Did they attack our military bases over there? Yes.

We have no business having military bases over there.

Remember what we did when Russia wanted a presence in Cuba? Why do we expect other countries to just accept what we will not?
 
Again, the US it not getting their oil.

Try again.

Do you really think that the US and Israel enjoys bombing schools for girls in Iran like Candace Owens and Tucker Carleson and the rest of Legacy media would have you believe? It this is what is behind their aggression?

Seems so. You know, bend to our will or we will reap more terrorism upon you.
 
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Seems so. You know, bend to our will or we will reap more terrorism upon you.
So, in order to not endure worse terrorism, the US and Israel should be happy with the terrorims already heaped upon them cuz they deserve it as it will be never ending.

Spoken like a true Leftist.

Thanks for that.

Well, its a great theory until they get nukes.
 
So, in order to not endure worse terrorism, the US and Israel should be happy with the terrorims already heaped upon them cuz they deserve it as it will be never ending.

Spoken like a true Leftist.

Thanks for that.

Well, its a great theory until they get nukes.

Iran has never done a thing to the United States. I have no say in what Israel does until they want us to fund or participate in it.

Funny how I'm a leftist for taking the position Trump once held.
 
title your story better then.....

Launches To The Moon​


NO, not TO the moon, to around the moon in orbit

big difference there sport...

no boots on the ground.......yet

Iran began its current regime with a coup over the Shah of Iran in 1979, as the Iranian regime illegally took over the US embassy in their own country and held American prisoners for years. But the US allowed it and basically did nothing to punish them as they negotiated their release. God only knows what the US gave them in return for the release of those hostages, which only emboldened them. For you see, it was their position that both Israel and the US were "The Great Satan" of the world, therefore, fighting them with any means possible was justifiable and righteous, because they were just that evil. Since then, they have been chanting death to America and death to Israel pretty much every day of every year since. And many of you may agree and would like to assist them in destroying both Israel and America because they deserve it. Basically, it is the final and only answer to all the evils both countries have supposedly done to them and the world.

But Iran was not a world power that could directly confront the US and Israel, so it used its oil revenue to fund terrorism against both powers by funding various proxies like Hezbollah and Hamas and the Houthis. It also began a weapons program to create ballistic missiles than could reach those countries as well as possible WMD's to put on those weapons, thus giving them for the first time an ability to directly attack and confront both countries. This is what President Trump said he was there to prevent in the most recent attack on them.

So, how has Iran attacked the US over the years?


April 1983: A suicide car bombing kills 63 people, including 17 Americans, at the U.S. Embassy in Beirut. The Iran-backed terrorist group Islamic Jihad, a precursor and early branch of Hezbollah (not to be confused with Palestinian Islamic Jihad), claims responsibility.

October 1983: Operatives of the Iran-backed Hezbollah drive a truck bomb at a Marine compound in Beirut, killing 220 U.S. Marines and 21 other service personnel.

December 1983: Hezbollah operatives drive an explosives-filled dump truck through the gates of the U.S. Embassy in Kuwait City. No Americans are harmed.

March 1984: Terrorists kidnap CIA station chief William Buckley in Beirut, subsequently torturing and ultimately killing him in 1985. Islamic Jihad claims responsibility.

December 1984: Hezbollah terrorists hijack Kuwait Airways Flight 221 on its way from Kuwait to Pakistan and divert it to Tehran, killing two American officials from the U.S. Agency for International Development.

June 1985: Hezbollah terrorists hijack TWA Flight 847 en route from Athens to Rome and kill a U.S. Navy diver.

July 1989: Hezbollah operatives kill U.S. Marine Corps Col. William Higgins after kidnapping him the previous year while on a UN peacekeeping mission in southern Lebanon.

April 1995: An explosives-laden van crashes into a bus near Kfar Darom in the Gaza Strip, killing one American and seven Israelis. Palestinian Islamic Jihad claims responsibility.

August 1995: A Hamas suicide bomber blows up a bus in the Ramat Eshkol neighborhood of Jerusalem, killing an American and three other passengers and wounding more than 100.

February 1996: A Hamas suicide bomber blows up a Jerusalem bus, killing three Americans and wounding three other Americans. A total of 26 people die in the attack.

March 1996: A suicide bomber blows up the Dizengoff shopping center in Tel Aviv, wounding two Americans. Twenty people die and 75 others are injured in the attack. Both Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad claim responsibility.

May 1996: Gunmen kill an American-Israeli dual citizen in the community of Beit El in the West Bank. Another U.S. citizen and three Israelis are wounded. No group claims responsibility, but Israel suspects Hamas or Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

June 1996: A truck carrying 5,000 pounds of explosives blows up the Khobar Towers, a U.S. Air Force housing complex in the Saudi Arabian town of Khobar. Nineteen Americans die and some 500 people are injured. The Iran-backed Hezbollah Al Hijaz, a terrorist group in Saudi Arabia, is deemed responsible.

September 1997: Three Hamas suicide bombers blow themselves up at the Ben Yehuda shopping mall in Jerusalem, killing a U.S.-Israeli dual citizen and wounding seven other American citizens. Four other people die and nearly 200 are wounded in the attack.

August 1998: With the assistance of Hezbollah, al-Qaeda suicide bombers almost simultaneously blow up the U.S. Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, killing 224 people, including 12 Americans, and wounding thousands. According to the 9/11 Commission Report, al-Qaeda developed “the tactical expertise for such attacks months earlier, when some of its operatives — top military committee members and several operatives who were involved with the Kenya cell among them — were sent to Hezbollah training camps in Lebanon.”

August 2001: A Hamas suicide bomber blows up the Sbarro pizzeria in Jerusalem, killing a U.S.-Israeli dual citizen and two other Americans. A total of 15 people die in the attack.

September 11, 2001: While the 9/11 Commission Report concludes that Iran had no foreknowledge of al-Qaeda’s attacks on the World Trade Center, the report indicates that Tehran facilitated the travel of some of the terrorists. “In sum,” the report notes, “there is strong evidence that Iran facilitated the transit of al Qaeda members into and out of Afghanistan before 9/11, and that some of these were future 9/11 hijackers.”

January 2002: Gunmen affiliated with the Iran-backed al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigade kill a U.S.-Israeli dual citizen and wound another individual in the West Bank community of Beit Sahur.

July 2002: A bomb planted by a Hamas terrorist kills five American students at Jerusalem’s Hebrew University, including an American-Israeli dual citizen and an American-French dual citizen. A total of nine people die in the attack.

June 2003: An American citizen, along with 16 other people, die when a Hamas terrorist blows himself up on a bus in Jerusalem.

October 2003: Terrorists from the Iran-backed Popular Resistance Committees kill three U.S. diplomatic personnel in a bombing in Gaza.

2003-2011: Iranian-backed militias kill at least 603 U.S. troops in Iraq, according to the Pentagon. Iranian training and material support for Iraqi militias during the surge greatly increased the difficulties U.S. forces faced while combating the insurgency and included some of the deadliest weapons used against American troops, such as explosively formed penetrators (EFPs) and improvised explosive devices (IEDs).

August 2003: A Hamas suicide bomber blows up a bus in Jerusalem, killing five Americans and wounding one other American. A total of 24 people die in the attack.

August 2006: Hezbollah fighters kill American citizen Michael Levin, a soldier in the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), during the Second Lebanon War. He is the only American to die in the conflict.

January 2007: Twelve men affiliated with the Quds Force of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) disguise themselves as U.S. soldiers, enter the Provincial Joint Coordination Center in the Iraqi city of Karbala, kill five U.S. soldiers, and wound another three. In 2019, the U.S. State Department issues a $15 million bounty for information on an IRGC Quds Force commander who planned the attack and other “assassinations of coalition forces in Iraq.”

July 2014: Hamas terrorists kill two Americans serving in the IDF during fighting between the terrorist group and Israel in Gaza as part of Operation Protective Edge.

October 2015: Hamas terrorists kill an American citizen and his wife, residents of the West Bank community of Neria, in their car in a drive-by shooting.

December 2019: Rockets fired by Kataib Hezbollah, an Iran-backed militia, kill an American security contractor and wound several U.S. service members and Iraqi personnel at the K1 military base in the Iraqi city of Kirkuk.

January 2020: A direct Iranian ballistic missile attack against the Ain al-Asad airbase in Iraq causes more than 100 U.S. troops to suffer traumatic brain injuries.

March 2020: The family of former FBI agent Robert Levinson, who disappeared in Iran in 2007, announces that he likely died in an Iranian prison at an unknown date.

September 2020: U.S. intelligence reports indicate that Iran is weighing a plot to assassinate U.S. Ambassador to South Africa Lana Marks.

February 2021: A rocket fired by an Iran-backed militia at coalition forces in the Iraqi city of Erbil wounds a U.S. service member and four U.S. civilian contractors.

July 2021: Iranian-backed militias conduct at least three rocket and drone attacks against U.S. forces in 24 hours in Iraq and Syria, wounding two U.S. service members.

September 2022: An Iranian rocket attack kills an American citizen in Iraqi Kurdistan.

November 2022: A captain in Iran’s IRGC orchestrates the killing of an American citizen living in Baghdad who worked at an English language institute.

March 2023: An Iranian drone kills an American contractor and wounds five service members and another contractor when it strikes a coalition base near the Syrian city of Hasakah.

October 7, 2023: Hamas kills at least 48 Americans and kidnaps at least 12 Americans in a massacre of 1,200 people in southern Israel.

December 2023: A drone attack conducted by an Iranian-backed Iraqi militia against U.S. forces in Erbil wounds three American soldiers, including one critically injured with shrapnel to the head, which placed him in a coma.

January 2024: A drone launched by Kataib Hezbollah kills three U.S. soldiers at a U.S. military base in Jordan and wounds more than 40 other service members.

October 2024: Iran executes German-Iranian national and U.S. permanent resident Jamshid Sharmahd on fraudulent terrorism charges.

November 2024: A report released by the Foundation for Defense of Democracies indicates that Iran and its proxies have conducted more than 180 attacks against U.S. forces in the Middle East between October 17, 2023, and November 19, 2024, resulting in more than 180 wounded and three killed U.S. service members.

November 2024: The U.S. Department of Justice announces charges against an Iranian national and two American accomplices for plotting to assassinate President Trump.

March 2025: A U.S. jury convicts two agents of Iran for plotting to assassinate Iranian-American journalist Masih Alinejad in New York in 2022.

June 2025: At least three U.S. bases in Syria and two U.S. bases in Iraq are attacked with missiles or drones, likely by Iranian-backed militias.

March 2026: Six American soldiers are killed in action during U.S. operations against Iran.

So, those that question the "right" of the US to attack Iran directly overlook these attacks somehow, along with the international community. Somehow, I guess the US had it coming to them and deserved it, which is what the Left believes for the most part. These proxy wars don't really count as international illegal acts and should be ignored as you let them continue this line of aggression unopposed, or so you would be led to believe by the media and the Left.

It is akin to how the Left views the issue with blacks in America. For you see, they point to slavery in the Deep South as evidence of how evil the US really is, despite overlooking the fact that slavery at that time occurred all over the world as well. They then point to the oppression of Blacks after the slavery during the Jim Crow era as further evidence of just how evil the US really is, despite overlooking that white Americans fought the bloodiest war in US history to free those slaves in the first place. Somehow, that does not count either to make amends for the sins of their past in any way and never will. In fact, the Left insists to this day that the US pay endless reparations to indiscriminate African Americans till the end of time, people who were never slaves and may not have even had a history of slavery in their blood line, like Kamala Harris whose ancestors owned slaves, but because of the color of their skin, they deserve it. But despite the fact that no amount of money can make up for the sins of the past, Americans must pay it anyway. The never-ending oppression of white folk I guess is their just deserts. But it goes beyond the money. Somehow the fact that jail cells are predominantly filled with African Americans is also unacceptable, even though they may be guilty of the crimes that got them there. But somehow those crimes must now be overlooked because the US made them do it, and all based on the oppression that their race received in the past. So, it is not only understandable that they would kill and oppress white Americans, they should also be freed from jail as soon as possible. But the problem is, most of their crimes are black on black crimes and not against white people. Yet this too is overlooked, and all because the US regime is at its roots evil, and as such, unredeemable and must be destroyed.

Iran is viewed in a similar light. Just like the Black-on-Black violence in America must be overlooked, the fact that Iran has just recently murdered over 30 thousand of its own people must also be overlooked. The fact that Iran attacked all of its neighboring countries who had NOTHING to do with the US attack must also be overlooked. And the fact that it has oppressed its people, especially women and gays, since their revolution as well as all of the proxy wars across the Middle East that have murdered hundreds of thousands must also be overlooked.

What in the hell has the UN ever done about Iran? What has the international community ever done about Iran? The UN is too busy writing resolutions against Israel to even be bothered because that is the only country they seem to enjoy reprimanding.

Currently, Iran is not allowing oil to flow to the rest of the world despite the fact that these countries had nothing to do with the American attack that just occurred. Why? As Trump said, this is YOUR problem now. The international community must get off their arse and finally hold Iran accountable for something and stop overlooking their own crimes against their own people and against the international community. As Trump said, the US does not need any of their oil, so it is not their problem.
Your timeline is a little off. You should start with 1953 when the newly formed CIA and the brits overthrew the government there and installed our puppet and he created the secret police there.
 
Iran has never done a thing to the United States. I have no say in what Israel does until they want us to fund or participate in it.

Funny how I'm a leftist for taking the position Trump once held.
So, you refute all the attacks on Americans that I listed?

How about the Americans that their proxy Hamas took prisoner on 10/7?

Did those people deserve it you think as well?
 
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