What is the purpose of tariffs on Canada?

[AsherN]

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All amounts negotiated by your orange genius. And they very rarely come into effect. They are only applied if you go over quota. Those tariffs are there the way all tariffs are there, to protect an existing industry. Blanket tariff against everything is NOT the way to do it.

 

[imawhosure]

Please tell us what the Tariffs on Canada are meant to achieve?

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/04/canada-mexico-tariffs-create-ripple-effects-on-consumer-prices.html

So lets say it is going to cost $450 per household per year

what it's target?

What metric will signify success?

Note:
There is barely any fentanyl that comes across the border.

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So maybe it is the trade imbalance... I don't know what balancing this does... It doesn't benefit either side...

United States Imports from Canada was US$421.21 Billion​

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Canada Imports from United States was US$277.04 Billion​

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So if Canada stops exporting Oil, Gas and Aluminium to US then that could balance up...
I know some will say that would kill US refining industry and severely hurt US exports (of Refined Oil and Gas) but this has to be balanced if that is the goal.

So what is the aim of these tariffs?

You can ask all you want Teddy; but here is the deal--------------->the United States without sending in one military soldier, can CRUSH Canada through economics, within 90 days....120 at the most.

On the other hand, we could/should fix this little tiff, and could do it in 90 minutes, 120 minutes at the most with intense negotiations.

I am not here to tell you that I/we want to take advantage of Canada in any way, shape, or form. But what I am telling you is-------->that our trade is no longer to be unfair, or we WILL see Canadians change their tune rather quickly, in LESS THAN 90 days!

And, oh yes, PAY INTO NATO to the tune of 2% you Canadian leeches!

 

[CowboyTed]

how much does the US import?

The trade deficit with US is $177bn

I have said if the stop sell US Oil, Gas and Aluminium that would be zero...

The Canadian Foreign Minister offered to do that the first time this was brought up.
As some people have said here that Canada is some how robbing US by this trade imbalance.
So are we happy if Canada just stops selling those items to US?

 

[CowboyTed]

You can ask all you want Teddy; but here is the deal--------------->the United States without sending in one military soldier, can CRUSH Canada through economics, within 90 days....120 at the most.

On the other hand, we could/should fix this little tiff, and could do it in 90 minutes, 120 minutes at the most with intense negotiations.

I am not here to tell you that I/we want to take advantage of Canada in any way, shape, or form. But what I am telling you is-------->that our trade is no longer to be unfair, or we WILL see Canadians change their tune rather quickly, in LESS THAN 90 days!

And, oh yes, PAY INTO NATO to the tune of 2% you Canadian leeches!

so the tariffs are because of Defence Spending?

I think I am pretty reasonable in asking what are trump's demands?
We need specifics on this, we have people jumping from one demand to another..

 

[The Irish Ram]

There is barely any fentanyl that comes across the border

Then, how much do you consider acceptable?

Under the Biden administration, drug smuggling has increased by 596% along the Northern border, including a 26% increase in fentanyl ~CNN

 

[CowboyTed]

What is the purpose of tariffs on Canada?​

The porous Canadian Border....

We have alread addressed this.

Canada are upping the security spent on the longest border in the world...

Can we also point out:
The trade in fentanyl takes place in both directions. In the first 10 months of 2024, the Canadian border service reported seizing 10.8lb (4.9kg) of fentanyl entering from the US, while US Border Patrol intercepted 32.1lb (14.6kg) of fentanyl coming from Canada.
Thats 20lbs of drugs for ten months net.
US actually
How fentanyl has poisoned relations between the US and Canada

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So for all the traffic, US is going to cost the US consumer billions for 20lbs of fentanyl...
Wouldn't there be less waste if you just spent a million with Mexican police on training and surveillance support against Cartels?

 

[Rambunctious]

We have alread addressed this.

Canada are upping the security spent on the longest border in the world...

Can we also point out:
The trade in fentanyl takes place in both directions. In the first 10 months of 2024, the Canadian border service reported seizing 10.8lb (4.9kg) of fentanyl entering from the US, while US Border Patrol intercepted 32.1lb (14.6kg) of fentanyl coming from Canada.
Thats 20lbs of drugs for ten months net.
US actually
How fentanyl has poisoned relations between the US and Canada

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So for all the traffic, US is going to cost the US consumer billions for 20lbs of fentanyl...
Wouldn't there be less waste if you just spent a million with Mexican police on training and surveillance support against Cartels?

And there is a pause of the tariffs... Fentanyl is coming through along with meth and other drugs... if the Canadians get serious about stopping that there won't be Canadian tariffs...

 

[CowboyTed]

Then, how much do you consider acceptable?

Under the Biden administration, drug smuggling has increased by 596% along the Northern border, including a 26% increase in fentanyl ~CNN

The amount seized for the first ten months of 2024 was a net import of 20lbs...

This is how much (in Cocaine)

That was the total in a 5,525 miles of border.. That is very low.

 

[CowboyTed]

I didn’t make any claim at all. Just how fucking retarded are you, cowshit?

Define your terms, cowshit.

Is you really that stupid?

So no answers just insults...

I am starting to get the feeling that you haven't clue what you or Trump wants...

 

[Crepitus]

Please tell us what the Tariffs on Canada are meant to achieve?

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/04/canada-mexico-tariffs-create-ripple-effects-on-consumer-prices.html

So lets say it is going to cost $450 per household per year

what it's target?

What metric will signify success?

Note:
There is barely any fentanyl that comes across the border.

---------
So maybe it is the trade imbalance... I don't know what balancing this does... It doesn't benefit either side...

United States Imports from Canada was US$421.21 Billion​

View attachment 1086185

Canada Imports from United States was US$277.04 Billion​

View attachment 1086186

So if Canada stops exporting Oil, Gas and Aluminium to US then that could balance up...
I know some will say that would kill US refining industry and severely hurt US exports (of Refined Oil and Gas) but this has to be balanced if that is the goal.

So what is the aim of these tariffs?

Sometimes the stupidity is the point?

 

[jc456]

The trade deficit with US is $177bn

I have said if the stop sell US Oil, Gas and Aluminium that would be zero...

The Canadian Foreign Minister offered to do that the first time this was brought up.
As some people have said here that Canada is some how robbing US by this trade imbalance.
So are we happy if Canada just stops selling those items to US?

So they lose money. Nice move. Go for it!

 

[g5000]

That your own ignorance prevents you from seeing truth doesn’t make a liar of me or anyone else, lil g.

https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/protectionism

I realize you’re a lump of ignorant lazy shit, lil g.0005. But I bet even a retard like you could dig up a boatload of Canadian Protectionist behaviors. (That includes includes tariffs, you twatrash. And, just to assist you, this isn’t a thread about the wisdom or folly of tariffs in general.)

You still have not shown the slightest bit of evidence Canada has violated the USMCA, dipshit.

You made a claim, and have failed to back it up.

In short, you pulled a lie out of your ass.

 

[The Irish Ram]

The amount seized for the first ten months of 2024 was a net import of 20lbs...

This is how much (in Cocaine)
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That was the total in a 5,525 miles of border.. That is very low.

That is the miniscule amount of coke that was seized. The rest of the drugs, including Fentanyl, crossed the border. Where is all the fentanyl they seized?

 

[CowboyTed]

Sometimes the stupidity is the point?

We keep on asking them what they want and they can't keep any story straight...

The drugs and immigration is just too small to be significant...
Trade imbalance, as I said in OP, just ban imports of thos three products.

Maybe Trump thinks he can destroy the Candian Economy and they will ask to join the US as a 51st state?

But this Trade war will hurt Canada but eventually they will find markets for nearly all their goods..

Out of the $418 Billion US import... Oil, Gas and Metals are $200bn(ish) can be redirected to other countries relatively quickly...
There is electricity as well and Canada have offered to cut off US of that but it seems a bit cruel in Winter.

So that is half of the exports...

Now we are down to <10% of Canadian economy...

The Cars and Trucks will hurt the US automotive industry...

Canada would have few years of recession (2-3 years) and bounce back with trade deals with places like China and EU...
It won't break Canada, not even close..

 

[g5000]

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I guess the guy who negotiated the USMCA was a total moron, eh?

 

[BackAgain]

So no answers just insults...

Cry harder.

I am starting to get the feeling that you haven't clue what you or Trump wants...

I don’t give a crap what you’re allegedly starting to “think.” You clearly don’t think at all. You can’t

 

[Calypso Jones]

I guess the guy who negotiated the USMCA was a total moron, eh?

I guess the guy who negotiated the USMCA was a total moron, eh?

you know what. you're not going to change your mind. But you have no say either. You can whine and bitch all you want but the left has destroyed itself. Hopefully forever. President Trump is negotiating..and he's winning.... it's sad you don't want a strong America but here we are. You want to play 'gotcha' But like President Trump said to Zelensky...'you don't have the cards'.

 

[g5000]

you know what. you're not going to change your mind. But you have no say either. You can whine and bitch all you want but the left has destroyed itself. Hopefully forever. President Trump is negotiating..and he's winning.... it's sad you don't want a strong America but here we are.

Sorry, you can't run from the fact Trump bragged and bragged about the USMCA he got passed.

So why is he now complaining about the very tariffs he enacted, dipshit?

Stop evading the question.

Trump is counting on you goldfish to forget those are HIS tariffs.

Well, I'm reminding you and it makes your ass hurt.

 

[BackAgain]

You still have not shown the slightest bit of evidence Canada has violated the USMCA, dipshit.

Hey, fucktard. Feel obligated to show where I ever said Canada had violated the USMCA.

You made a claim, and have failed to back it up.

Nonsense. You lie. Repeating your lie is tired bullshit.

In short, you pulled a lie out of your ass.

In short: you’re still lying.

 

[g5000]

Hey, fucktard. Feel obligated to show where I ever said Canada had violated the USMCA.

No problem, idiot.

Right here:

Nor does it address other government-sponsored protectionism of Canadian goods which Trump believes to be unfair.

So I say again. Back up your bullshit.