CDZ What is the hypothesis behind Russia-gate?

[william the wie]

thanks for the laugh Care.

 

[JakeStarkey]

care4all sweeps the board of naysayers who can only say "nay" when in fact Comey has said an investigation of Trumpers and Russian interference is ongoing.

 

[Picaro]

EXACTLY what is being alleged (or even suspected) here? That Donald Trump or his associates are Russian spies? That they hacked DNC emails and fed them to the Russians? Or some other nefarious collusion with foreign nationals to rig the Presidential election?

If not one of these preposterous scenarios, what is the legitimate purpose of the incessant innuendo on the part of the MSM? Is it anything more than political propaganda?

It has no legitimate purpose, just a bunch of fake news and noise, part of the 'big campaign' to make the irrelevant feel like they're 'Doing Something N Stuff'; they shot the what little credibility they had and their blatantly dishonest, lying MSM water carriers can't influence anything any more so they keep busy with publishing fake stories and innuendo; they stand to lose a couple of billion dollars if the political campaigns notice how ineffective they are as advertisers and propaganda hacks so they're desperate and nasty, is all.

The fake pollsters are in even worse shape re cred, and the Party is reduced to actually having to hire 'protestors' via Craig's List to get enough thugs to show up and generate photo ops for the hacks now. It's hilarious, really watching these pathetic low life gimps flailing around trying to produce 'talking points'. It also serves to keep the focus away from the total corruption of the Democratic Party and most faux 'progressives' and staving off investigations of them and their 'interesting relationships', or so they hope, anyway. there are still a lot of Obamanaugt criminal syndicate associates left in the various bureaucracies, so we get these silly 'leaks' that don't establish anything, and of course the GOP establishment is riddled its own enemies of America cadres, too, so it's going to be an interesting 8 years under Trump and a few outlaw Republicans and Democrats going against some extremely wealthy and crooked vermin.

 

[Picaro]

The Progressive "leaders" of the Democratic Party needed something to blame Hillary Clinton's defeat on. Rather than admit that they ran a corrupt and dishonest candidate with no new ideas and more scandal baggage than anyone since Nixon...Democratic leaders have decided on blaming Russians for Hillary's loss rather than admit THEIR failed policies are the root cause of Trump's shocking victory! They have no new leaders. They have no new ideas. They promise more "give a ways" trying to buy votes from a base that more and more sees them for what they really are.

Yes. they make all these noises about being 'all progressive n stuff', and yet never deliver a thing. They had both Houses in 2006 and the Obama Disaster for 8 years after, yet they did nothing but let judges overturn legitimate state laws,shilled for Islamic terrorist states, foment violent racist hate crimes, stuff their own pockets, and destroy as many foreign relationships with allies ans they could, all on purpose. The majority of them should be in prison or deported.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Russiagate is real regardless of all the nay saying. All reasonable man standard common sense people know the truth. The naysayers, like Picaro, are unhappy that America is moving into the 21st century.

 

[Divine Wind]

EXACTLY what is being alleged (or even suspected) here? That Donald Trump or his associates are Russian spies? That they hacked DNC emails and fed them to the Russians? Or some other nefarious collusion with foreign nationals to rig the Presidential election?

If not one of these preposterous scenarios, what is the legitimate purpose of the incessant innuendo on the part of the MSM? Is it anything more than political propaganda?

According to the usual nutjobs extreme political partisans on this forum, there are two different points of view:

LWLs: Trump is a traitor who gave Putin handjobs in exchange for the Russians hacking the election and stealing it from Hillary.

RWNJs: Nothing happened. The Russians are our friends.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Choose Comey or choose the alt right for matters of truth.

That's like choosing the ArchAngel or DylanRoof.

 

[Picaro]

Dylan Roof killed far far fewer black people than left wing Democratic Party associated criminal gangs kill in an average weekend.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Dylan Roof killed far far fewer black people than left wing Democratic Party associated criminal gangs kill in an average weekend.

Picaro, evidence the black gangs are Democratic Party associated criminal groups. That is plain stupid. That is the same logic for saying the white meth makers in East Texas and the white marijuana farmers in Tennessee are associated criminal gangs of the Republican Party.

 

[Oldstyle]

money laundering for the Russians and tax evasion is my best bet on the criminal charges that may come out of it and on to trumpsters and not collusion on the election interference....but that's just from what is being reported on the 24/7's and press also doing their own investigations that I have seen...

It is a matter of public record that Hillary and Podesta knowingly took illegal Russian money laundered through the Clinton foundation in her case and showing up in the foundation's required financial reports. That, if I am not mistaken, triggers all sorts of possible routes to RICO.

nope! All the records are sunshine clear and out in the open...the Clintons have never taken a dime of the Clinton foundation charity's money....they didn't even pay themselves a salary to work for the foundation, Bill, Hillary, or Chelsea...zero, zip...they did however DONATE their own personal money TO THE Foundation... if thy were money hungry, they could have simply kept the million they've donated to it out of their own pockets.

all made up false right wing propaganda....

How much Foundation money was used to keep the Clinton political machine running, Care? Hillary used the Foundation as a means to pay people who worked for her election without having to use money out of her pocket. How many top Clinton political aides pulled down two salaries...one of which was from the Clinton Foundation? Was Huma Abedin really earning the salary she got from the Clinton Foundation...or was that simply an easy way to pay your political staff with money that isn't coming out of your pockets?

 

[Oldstyle]

Anyone who thinks the Clinton Foundation being "wound down" as the election came up was "coincidence" is about a naive as they come! One way or another those political operatives that were being paid by the Clinton Foundation but were spending most of their time trying to get Hillary elected were no longer going to be needed. Or do you think the world's problems suddenly came to an end and there was no NEED for a charitable foundation?

 

[Picaro]

Dylan Roof killed far far fewer black people than left wing Democratic Party associated criminal gangs kill in an average weekend.

Picaro, evidence the black gangs are Democratic Party associated criminal groups. That is plain stupid. That is the same logic for saying the white meth makers in East Texas and the white marijuana farmers in Tennessee are associated criminal gangs of the Republican Party.

They hired them off of Craig's List, for one, the New Black Panthers do work for the Democrats, for two, and of course in Chicago and New York many gangs actually get money from Democrats for 'services', get public funds for 'clinics' and the like, and you're going to look like an idiot yet again if you deny any of this. Same in LA and the Bay Area in Cali, with even the illegal alien gangs working for them on top of the La Raza racists, who also get public funds via subsidiaries to pay off full time thugs and 'activists'.

 

[Picaro]

Anyone who thinks the Clinton Foundation being "wound down" as the election came up was "coincidence" is about a naive as they come! One way or another those political operatives that were being paid by the Clinton Foundation but were spending most of their time trying to get Hillary elected were no longer going to be needed. Or do you think the world's problems suddenly came to an end and there was no NEED for a charitable foundation?

It was just a slush fund, period. Only the clueless believe it was some 'charity'; sociopaths like the Clintons don't form charities except to advance their own interests. They were selling influence, and the donors certainly know that's what it was, and that's why they no longer 'donate'. She kept giving her cronies plush jobs to keep them around, used it for travel, etc., donated to special interest groups they wanted to bribe for support, all that good stuff.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The New Black Panthers do nothing. If they were out there, Picaro would be running for safety so fast that he would outrun his shoes.

 

[william the wie]

Anyone who thinks the Clinton Foundation being "wound down" as the election came up was "coincidence" is about a naive as they come! One way or another those political operatives that were being paid by the Clinton Foundation but were spending most of their time trying to get Hillary elected were no longer going to be needed. Or do you think the world's problems suddenly came to an end and there was no NEED for a charitable foundation?

It was just a slush fund, period. Only the clueless believe it was some 'charity'; sociopaths like the Clintons don't form charities except to advance their own interests. They were selling influence, and the donors certainly know that's what it was, and that's why they no longer 'donate'. She kept giving her cronies plush jobs to keep them around, used it for travel, etc., donated to special interest groups they wanted to bribe for support, all that good stuff.

I heard all sorts of claims during the election that there were two or more Protestor/Rioter employment halls run off the books by Soros and moveon.org but how good is the proof?

 

[JakeStarkey]

There is no proof. However, the proof for the Koch protester hiring halls is golden.

 

[Picaro]

Anyone who thinks the Clinton Foundation being "wound down" as the election came up was "coincidence" is about a naive as they come! One way or another those political operatives that were being paid by the Clinton Foundation but were spending most of their time trying to get Hillary elected were no longer going to be needed. Or do you think the world's problems suddenly came to an end and there was no NEED for a charitable foundation?

It was just a slush fund, period. Only the clueless believe it was some 'charity'; sociopaths like the Clintons don't form charities except to advance their own interests. They were selling influence, and the donors certainly know that's what it was, and that's why they no longer 'donate'. She kept giving her cronies plush jobs to keep them around, used it for travel, etc., donated to special interest groups they wanted to bribe for support, all that good stuff.

I heard all sorts of claims during the election that there were two or more Protestor/Rioter employment halls run off the books by Soros and moveon.org but how good is the proof?

CRAIGSLIST: Leftists Already Putting Out Ads For ‘Full-Time Activists’ To Fight Trump – InvestmentWatch

Just one city; there are more. I've seen them for years, usually related to some 'Cause' other, but like cults you don't get the real story until you show up and see what's really going on. Here locally a Democratic office holder would run ads for 'activists who want to fight high electricity rates', for instance, and when you get there you find you're expected not only to get petition signatures but raise money for the candidate, and then after that drive you had more stuff to do under other names and 'causes'. There are many ruses, and usually they only recruit on college campuses but lately they need more numbers for the fake photo ops around the country, as their turnouts are actually much lower than the media wants us to believe, like their fake poll numbers claiming there are all these people 'who hate Trump n stuff'..

 

[Picaro]

The New Black Panthers do nothing. If they were out there, Picaro would be running for safety so fast that he would outrun his shoes.

lol sure Jake; they're Obama's favorite poll watchers, especially in Philly, and they're useful for putting bounties on proles who dare defend themselves from violent thugs who could be Obama's sons.

 

[Picaro]

There is no proof. However, the proof for the Koch protester hiring halls is golden.

Congratulations, Jake; I just read about your winning the Official USMB Village Idiot Award. You certainly earned it, all the hard work you've put into the campaign has paid off for you. You should be proud. You have nowhere to go but up, as long as you remain in the Democratic Party, maybe even make it up to being Perez's office boy.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The New Black Panthers do nothing. If they were out there, Picaro would be running for safety so fast that he would outrun his shoes.

lol sure Jake; they're Obama's favorite poll watchers, especially in Philly, and they're useful for putting bounties on proles who dare defend themselves from violent thugs who could be Obama's sons.

Yup, all two of them, who went home went told to do so by the police. You are so scared of your shadow.