What Is the Excuse For This?

[Lastamender]

He’s on video beating cops with an aluminum baseball bat and engaging in violence for several hours.

Then he bragged about it and encouraged more violence after the riot.

He’s a violent piece of shit and that kind of asshole has to stay in jail until their trial.

Let's see the video. There is also one of him trying save Rosanne Boyle's life. Show them both.

 

[Lastamender]

Apparently you can‘t. He delays his own trial, then whines about jail to try to get released.

He probably wants to flee because he’s so fucked at trial.

Then why has there been no trial? You have not answered that.

 

[BackAgain]

He’s on video beating cops with an aluminum baseball bat and engaging in violence for several hour

Not according to the agent’s affidavit. There it is allegedly only that he is seen thrusting the bat at the law enforcement officer. “Beating” is a stretch.

Then he bragged about it and encouraged more violence after the riot.

No. He bragged about being a patriot. Misguided or not, he didn’t brag about any violence.

He’s a violent piece of shit and that kind of asshole has to stay in jail until their trial.

Nonsense. People are entitled to a reasonable bail.

I wouldn’t nominate this man for any awards. He may deserve to be convicted of some crime or crimes. But this amount of pretrial detention is becoming unconscionable.

 

[BackAgain]

He's a violent piece of shit.

Not based on the evidence we have seen so far.

Nice baseless prejudgment by you though.

No surprise.

 

[Curried Goats]

Then why no trial?

Because he wanted to see how Trump's Supreme Court challenge shakes out. One of them has implications for his MAGAt rioters.

 

[Lastamender]

Because he wanted to see how Trump's Supreme Court challenge shakes out. One of them has implications for his MAGAt rioters.

Bullshit.

 

[Marener]

Not according to the agent’s affidavit. There it is allegedly only that he is seen thrusting the bat at the law enforcement officer. “Beating” is a stretch.

Splitting hairs. Lang repeatedly struck a cop with the bat. Either way, he’s a violent piece of shit.

No. He bragged about being a patriot. Misguided or not, he didn’t brag about any violence.

He bragged about being police. The fact that he thought beating police was patriotic further shows his delusional thinking and increases the chance he will be a threat to the community and a flight risk.

Nonsense. People are entitled to a reasonable bail.

It is reasonable to hold him without bail.

 

[Marener]

Not based on the evidence we have seen so far.

Nice baseless prejudgment by you though.

No surprise.

Evidence provided to the court was sufficient to conclude so. That’s why he’s denied bail.

This isn’t “prejudgement”. This is the judgement of the court.

 

[Marener]

Then why has there been no trial? You have not answered that.

He keeps delaying his own trial.

 

[Lastamender]

Evidence provided to the court was sufficient to conclude so. That’s why he’s denied bail.

This isn’t “prejudgement”. This is the judgement of the court.

People charged with murder get bail you dumbass.

 

[BackAgain]

Splitting hairs. Lang repeatedly struck a cop with the bat.

Not according to the evidence we have so far. If I’m mistaken, “show me.”

Either way, he’s a violent piece of shit.

Not true. He might be. But if he didn’t actually strike an officer, there is no basis for your contention.

He bragged about being police.

No. He didn’t.

The fact that he thought beating police was patriotic further shows his delusional thinking and increases the chance he will be a threat to the community and a flight risk.

It’s not what he claimed.

It is reasonable to hold him without bail.

No it’s not. If he isn’t a flight risk (and there’s no basis to believe he is) then he should be out on bail.

 

[Lastamender]

He keeps delaying his own trial.

Really, show us another time he supposedly did it. I'll wait.

 

[BackAgain]

He keeps delaying his own trial.

No. He doesn’t. He filed an application. It resulted in a delay.

 

[Marener]

People charged with murder get bail you dumbass.

Bail depends on four factors. The nature of the allegation is only one factor.

 

[otto105]

Over three years without a trial, or bond. What did this man do to be treated like this? This should piss everyone off. Why are the Feds scared of giving him a trial?

He should explain his actions on J6 and take responsibility for them.

 

[Lastamender]

Bail depends on four factors. The nature of the allegation is only one factor.

So what he did is worse than murder? Again, you are defending fascists.

 

[Curried Goats]

Bullshit.

Fewer than 10 show for rally at Brooklyn prison for NY man held for Jan. 6 assault charges

It was billed as a show of public outrage to demand the release of a New York man who's been jailed for 40 months while awaiting trial on charges of repeatedly assaulting cops outside the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.​

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But fewer than 10 supporters turned out for the midday protest outside the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn, where Sullivan County native Jake Lang is now being held. The promised spectacle of protesters riding horses in the shadow of the Gowanus Expressway wound up being a sole rider: "Cowboys for Trump" founder Couy Griffin, cradling an American flag in his saddle.​

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The rally, led by Lang's father, Ned Lang of Narrowsburg, was set up to protest Jake Lang's prolonged wait behind bars for his trial and the solitary confinement in which he has been held for the last month. Lang, arrested shortly after the rampage at the Capitol by Donald Trump supporters in January 2021, is among a small number of defendants — out of more than 1,400 charged with participating — who have been kept in jail while awaiting trial.​

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Lang is now scheduled to stand trial in September. His previous trial date in October 2023 was postponed at his request to await the outcome of his Supreme Court appeal to try to dismiss one of the 11 charges against him.​

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Imaging being this dumbasses pathetic father trying to get support for his son and less than ten people show up. To be confronted with the knowledge that no one gives a shit about your son, including the man who he went to riot for, had to be devastatingly funny for the people who got to witness that magic live.

 

[otto105]

I am reviewing the unnamed FBI agent’s supporting affidavit which was the basis for the initial civil complaint.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/page/file/1355866/dl

There is no doubt at all that Lang was present, was a participant and seems to have been very proud of it.

At paragraph numbered “24,” the agent finally seems to support the claim that Lang acted violently.

To be very clear at this juncture, I absolutely oppose the criminal behavior of any of the Jan 6 protestors (especially the “mob component”) and I offer zero defense for any assault against the law enforcement officers who were there to secure and protect our Capitol.

Therefore, let’s assume (hypothetically) that despite his SCOTUS application, that there is perfectly good reason to try him on the indictment. In fact, let’s go even further: let’s assume that when he does get tried, he is very likely to be convicted (and let’s assume the verdict is perfectly fair and proper).

With that basis, I’m still asking: why is he not entitled to a reasonable bail?

He would be a runner.

 

[Lastamender]

He should explain his actions on J6 and take responsibility for them.

They do not want him explaining what happened. WTF do you think this is about troll?

 

[BackAgain]

Bail depends on four factors. The nature of the allegation is only one factor.

Name those “four” factors and link the source.

And if even alleged murderers can get bail, then the nature of these charges suggests that the denial of bail has to be based on other factors.

What are those other factors?