What is Obama's Endgame?

[JoeNormal]

Like everyone else I am trying to see a way out of this shutdown. With Obama refusing to negotiate at all, and Reid backing him up I do not see anything that would push him towards doing anything.
The next event coming up is the gov't running out of money, sometime in the next 2 weeks. At that point what will happen? Will Obama knuckle under and say he will negotiate? I dont think so. He has shown himself to be totally intrasigent, the President of No.

I believe he will invoke his "14th Amendment Power" and unilaterally order the Treasury to borrow money to fulfill debt payments.
At that point we essentially have a dictatorship in this country, as Obama has no 14thA power.

There must be a gene in the conservative DNA that requires revisionist history for sustenance.

 

[NYcarbineer]

As usual, the Right thinks that because the Right thinks this is working to the advantage of the GOP,

then most of America must feel that way. Nothing could be further from the truth.

The House must do its constitutional duty and fund the government. Period. No strings attached.

 

[Redfish]

Endgame?

The public being enraged with the Republican Party
Vicious infighting within the GOP
A further deterioration of the GOP brand
Major inroads to the 2014 elections
Obamacare stays intact

Do you really believe that the USA would be better off with only one political party? Please think before answering.

If one party is intent on destroying itself....what are we supposed to do?

The wounds are self inflicted

Bullshit, but you are very good at repeating the lies from the state controlled media. The GOP is doing what the people sent them to DC to do. They will come out stronger as a result of this. Sometimes pain is necessary before healing can begin.

The losers here are obama and the dems who are shutting down things like national monuments and parks and refusing to even look for any compromise. The people see who is to blame, and they will punish them next year.

 

[Redfish]

As usual, the Right thinks that because the Right thinks this is working to the advantage of the GOP,

then most of America must feel that way. Nothing could be further from the truth.

The House must do its constitutional duty and fund the government. Period. No strings attached.

The house has tried to do that with several bills, Reid has not allowed any one of them to be voted on in the senate.


the shutdown belongs to the dems.

BTW, congress has no obligation to fund every piece of legislation-----thats why they call it a budget. This "its the law" rant from dems is total bullshit.

 

[rightwinger]

Do you really believe that the USA would be better off with only one political party? Please think before answering.

If one party is intent on destroying itself....what are we supposed to do?

The wounds are self inflicted

Bullshit, but you are very good at repeating the lies from the state controlled media. The GOP is doing what the people sent them to DC to do. They will come out stronger as a result of this. Sometimes pain is necessary before healing can begin.

The losers here are obama and the dems who are shutting down things like national monuments and parks and refusing to even look for any compromise. The people see who is to blame, and they will punish them next year.

Now who is telling the lies?

Over two thirds of the public wants the shutdown to end and oppose GOP tactics.

You are however correct in that the people do see who is to blame and will let the Republicans know in 2014.

 

[Edgetho]

Obamas course is set

Allow the Republicans to continue beating themselves until they have had enough

Obama will end up with Obamacare intact and a weakened GOP

He might wind up strengthening it in the long run, once they purge themselves of radicals and become the center right party of Eisenhower, Ford, George HW Bush, Dole and Jack Kemp.

That will not happen in Obamas term

Republicans need to hit rock bottom first and that has not happened yet. Let them lose some more elections first

You don't know much about history, do you?

Of course not, you're a dimocrap. You only know what you're told.

Before, during and after the debacle of the 1995-1996 shutdown, Republicans got blamed by the DISGUSTING FILTH in the LSM like you wouldn't believe. But there was no FNC to correct the lies.

the rapist went on TV, was interviewed incessantly and did his usual 'Aw shucks', toe-tappin' bullshit for the worshipful crown in the DISGUSTING FILTH of the LSM.

Meanwhile, Newt was called every name in the book.

In fact, the RNC was so demoralized by it all that they nominated somebody they KNEW had no chance of winning.

Somebody ready to retire anyway. A nice guy. A good guy but about as interesting as yesterday's breakfast....... Bob Dole of Viagra fame.

My point?

Oh yeah, we only lost 3 House Seats while maintaining a Majority and we GAINED 2 (two) Seats in the Senate.

We later Impeached a rapist.

And this time, I don't see a lot of difference. Except for the POS-TUS being a rapist..... Yeah, dimocraps are gonna win right out of the box..... Initially. That's expected with the onslaught of the DISGUSTING FILTH in the LSM.

They're like Fire Ants -- when one of them releases the "Protect The Hive" pheromone, they just start attacking and biting anything and everything in sight. They'll slow down and people will get tired of hearing them just repeat the same tired old shit

But once the mess gets explained properly... Ant it will: dimocraps get massacred in 2014.

Mark my words

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Endgame?

To leave the United States a better place then what he found it to be.

Freer, Fairer, and Progressive.

Well, he's definitely got the transformation going on. I think you meant less free and less fair. Small error on your part I assume.

 

[Redfish]

Endgame?

To leave the United States a better place then what he found it to be.

Freer, Fairer, and Progressive.

Well, he's definitely got the transformation going on. I think you meant less free and less fair. Small error on your part I assume.

right "fundamental change" from a free representative democracy to a marxist dictatorship ruled by a tiny group of super elites with everyone else equally miserable.

The stupid dems and the stupid media are getting what they voted for------liberals have to the the stupidest forms of life on the planet.

 

[Katzndogz]

obama intends to fully crash the economy. It's right out of Alinsky's Rules for Radicals. The next thing he will do is the last blow. He intends to default on the debt payment.

 

[Dot Com]

There is simply no way the GOP can win this now. If they go ahead and fund the government, it will be seen as a victory for the President. If they continue the shutdown, they become increasingly unpopular with the electorate as the affects of the shutdown excalate and more Americans are impacted by this tactic. Every day this shutdwon continues is a damage to the GOP. And the President appears stronger for standing up to the Teabaggers and the GOP. Simply a no win situation that the GOP has put itself into. All for the little civil war going on within the GOP.

Pretty sad that the Republiteparty are just doing it to fundraise too

Fundraising off of political suicide

Heritage Action, following today’s House vote, sent out –surprise, surprise–a fundraising e-mail imploring conservatives to send them money.

FreedomWorks, another right-wing group, did the same.

The eXtreme rw drones will write them checks too.

 

[Dot Com]

obama intends to fully crash the economy. It's right out of Alinsky's Rules for Radicals. The next thing he will do is the last blow. He intends to default on the debt payment.

they let you connect to the internet in the day room?

Republicans initiated this retard

 

[rightwinger]

Ted Cruz is the General Custer of the Republican Party
Leading his loyal forces into a massacre

The American People are a bunch of outraged Indians

 

[Redfish]

obama intends to fully crash the economy. It's right out of Alinsky's Rules for Radicals. The next thing he will do is the last blow. He intends to default on the debt payment.

they let you connect to the internet in the day room?

Republicans initiated this retard

Really? the republicans passed the obamacare act? Sorry, but that terrible piece of legislation belongs solely to the dems, as does the current shutdown.

 

[Redfish]

Ted Cruz is the General Custer of the Republican Party
Leading his loyal forces into a massacre

The American People are a bunch of outraged Indians

yes they are, but they are outraged at the entire DC bunch. The latest polls show equal blame between dems and pubs.

BUT, the house GOP has offered to try to find a compromise, but reid and obozo have refused to even talk, the shutdown belongs to them.

 

[Dot Com]

Ted Cruz is the General Custer of the Republican Party
Leading his loyal forces into a massacre

The American People are a bunch of outraged Indians

^ that

 

[healthmyths]

Like everyone else I am trying to see a way out of this shutdown. With Obama refusing to negotiate at all, and Reid backing him up I do not see anything that would push him towards doing anything.
The next event coming up is the gov't running out of money, sometime in the next 2 weeks. At that point what will happen? Will Obama knuckle under and say he will negotiate? I dont think so. He has shown himself to be totally intrasigent, the President of No.
I believe he will invoke his "14th Amendment Power" and unilaterally order the Treasury to borrow money to fulfill debt payments.
At that point we essentially have a dictatorship in this country, as Obama has no 14thA power.

This is Obama's objective:

Obama has told us :"I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program"
Amid hunt for Navy Yard shooters, Obama attacks Republicans on budget | The Daily Caller

Does Obama UNDERSTAND the net costs in doing that?
A minimum LOSS of Federal/state/local and local property taxes of over $100 billion A YEAR!
A loss of 400,000 jobs that pay an average of $40,000 each!

This destruction of 1,300 companies , $100 billion in taxes all because of 1% of the population!

 

[Dot Com]

Ted Cruz is the General Custer of the Republican Party
Leading his loyal forces into a massacre

The American People are a bunch of outraged Indians

yes they are, but they are outraged at the entire DC bunch. The latest polls show equal blame between dems and pubs.

BUT, the house GOP has offered to try to find a compromise, but reid and obozo have refused to even talk, the shutdown belongs to them.

compromise? To what? The ACA is the law. Chief Justice Roberts said so. He was appointed by Bush II (R) if you weren't aware of that

The Repubs are simply doing this to show the teabaggers that they "tried" so they can fundraise from retards. The High Court has spoken.

 

[Redfish]

Ted Cruz is the General Custer of the Republican Party
Leading his loyal forces into a massacre

The American People are a bunch of outraged Indians

yes they are, but they are outraged at the entire DC bunch. The latest polls show equal blame between dems and pubs.

BUT, the house GOP has offered to try to find a compromise, but reid and obozo have refused to even talk, the shutdown belongs to them.

compromise? To what? The ACA is the law. Chief Justice Roberts said so. He was appointed by Bush II (R) if you weren't aware of that

congress has no obligation to fully fund any law, thats why they call it a budget. The fact that SCOTUS found it constitutional does not mandate that congress fully fund it.

BTW, slavery was once the law of the land, as was women not being allowed to vote, and prohibition.

congress has an obligation to repeal or amend bad laws, and ACA is bad law. If you read the SCOTUS opinion, that was their real conclusion.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Obama is a radical and his endgame is radical.......which is exactly why Republicans need to radically deal with this anti-American radical....

 

[rightwinger]

Ted Cruz is the General Custer of the Republican Party
Leading his loyal forces into a massacre

The American People are a bunch of outraged Indians

yes they are, but they are outraged at the entire DC bunch. The latest polls show equal blame between dems and pubs.

BUT, the house GOP has offered to try to find a compromise, but reid and obozo have refused to even talk, the shutdown belongs to them.

lets see your polls