What is NIck Fuentes, white nationalist, Hitler fan, and holocaust denier relationship with Trump and MAGA.

[el midgetron]

I kept hearing about this guy so last night I decided to listen to the Tucker Carlson interview. I am about 3/4 the way through it so far and have not heard anything I really disagree with yet.

He basically believes in identity politics, something the political left is fully invested in. He just thinks that the identities of Americans, Christians and white people should be treated as other identities are in the context of social politics. He does not believe in social hierarchy like the political left does.

His rhetoric about the “Jews” was also explored. While I agree with Tucker’s take on it, Fuentes explained it’s really about the US’s relationship with Israel. He detailed his experience as a college kid as he developed his political philosophies. His experience was that anytime he was critical of the US’s support for Israel, he would get push-back, called an antisemite and disenfranchised. He notice a pattern that frequently it was Jewish people within the conservative movement doing this.

His perspective is that the Jewish people have a unique experience of historical persecution, diaspora and religious identity that makes them feel a primary allegiance to Israel, not “America first”. For Fuentes, his experience is that Jews like Shapiro, Prager, Ruben (among others) have prevented an honest discussion about America’s relationship to Israel.

 

[ElmerMudd]

I kept hearing about this guy so last night I decided to listen to the Tucker Carlson interview. I am about 3/4 the way through it so far and have not heard anything I really disagree with yet.

He basically believes in identity politics, something the political left is fully invested in. He just thinks that the identities of Americans, Christians and white people should be treated as other identities are in the context of social politics. He does not believe in social hierarchy like the political left does.

His rhetoric about the “Jews” was also explored. While I agree with Tucker’s take on it, Fuentes explained it’s really about the US’s relationship with Israel. He detailed his experience as a college kid as he developed his political philosophies. His experience was that anytime he was critical of the US’s support for Israel, he would get push-back, called an antisemite and disenfranchised. He notice a pattern that frequently it was Jewish people within the conservative movement doing this.

His perspective is that the Jewish people have a unique experience of historical persecution, diaspora and religious identity that makes them feel a primary allegiance to Israel, not “America first”. For Fuentes, his experience is that Jews like Shapiro, Prager, Ruben (among others) have prevented an honest discussion about America’s relationship to Israel.

At least you are honest. But your honesty says a lot about who you are.

 

[el midgetron]

At least you are honest. But your honesty says a lot about who you are.

Sorry, but after a decade of personal attacks being the only argument from the left, I don’t care about your phoney judgement.

Like I said, this is the first and only thing I have heard from Fuentes. I posted a response to what was discussed in the interview. Your sense of moral superiority is rejected.

 

[Lesh]

In previous decades, when the John Birchites and other weirdoes tried to infest the Republican Party, the Republican candidates (Eisenhower famously) told them to sod off.

Goldwater didn’t. Didn’t turn out well for him though

 

[ElmerMudd]

Sorry, but after a decade of personal attacks being the only argument from the left, I don’t care about your phoney judgement.

Like I said, this is the first and only thing I have heard from Fuentes. I posted a response to what was discussed in the interview. Your sense of moral superiority is rejected.

You be you, i'll be me and we are accountable for who are.

 

[Correll]

Your deflection and attempts at dismissal don’t hold up.

Nick Fuentes is prominent among white supremacists, as most Trumpster know all too well.

He is virulently racist and anti semantic.

He participated in and promoted the Jan 6th coup attempt.

And, he has been a guest in the Trump White House.

most maga pay no attention at all to w.s. YOu are a lying asshole.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Those news outlets have the balls to challenge assertions made and not give them an open venue to spread their ideas.

If you don't see the difference is because you don't want to.

Well, the point is that CNN and Fox News gives an open platform to bloodthirsty dictators like Netanyahu and his cronies in the IDF and Israeli politicians where such people spread evil racist ideas all the time.. And so for them not to “platform” Fuentes who is just some guy on the Internet effectively. It is outright hypocrisy, but it’s even more than that. It is evil. It is vile racism on the part of CNN and Fox

“platform” lets look more at that ..CNN and Fox have a duty as journalists to the American people to interview popular political figures and ask them whatever tough questions critics want to be asked. That includes people like Fuentes. Now again, and I believe you are someone who claims to stand up against racism and for minorities in America.. which is a good thing. So you can recognize that Netanyahu is 1 million times worse than Fuentes as he actually holds real political power and is responsible for the deaths of at least 70,000 Palestinians mostly women and children. A higher ratio of dead children in Gaza than every war in the past five years. So CNN and Fox should also interview political leaders, including Israel, Israel ones and they need to ask them the questions that masses of Americans have on their minds, which is why are you committing a genocide and they need to say “wait a minute a lot of Americans on both the left and right think Israel is committing a genocide. How do you answer it.?”

I For one and very thankful that we see this beautiful teamwork between lefties and righties like Glenn Greenwald, Dave Smith both of who are Jewish working with people like Tucker Carlson and Candice Owens to stand up to the worst racism in the world right now being carried out against the people of Gaza by the IDF.

 

[ElmerMudd]

most maga pay no attention at all to w.s. YOu are a lying asshole.

President Trump has a long history of amplifying messages and figures embraced by white supremacists and other domestic extremists.

Donald Trump’s long history of enabling white supremacy, explained

Trump’s dinner with white supremacist Nick Fuentes was much more than a gaffe.

www.vox.com

How Trump filled key positions with people who spread extremist views

The first few months of President Trump's second term, including some selections for key jobs in his administration, have sparked new questions about his complicated history with elevating extremist views. White House correspondent Laura Barrón-López reports.

www.pbs.org

 

[ElmerMudd]

Well, the point is that CNN and Fox News gives an open platform to bloodthirsty dictators like Netanyahu and his cronies in the IDF and Israeli politicians where such people spread evil racist ideas all the time.. And so for them not to “platform” Fuentes who is just some guy on the Internet effectively. It is outright hypocrisy, but it’s even more than that. It is evil. It is vile racism on the part of CNN and Fox

“platform” lets look more at that ..CNN and Fox have a duty as journalists to the American people to interview popular political figures and ask them whatever tough questions critics want to be asked. That includes people like Fuentes. Now again, and I believe you are someone who claims to stand up against racism and for minorities in America.. which is a good thing. So you can recognize that Netanyahu is 1 million times worse than Fuentes as he actually holds real political power and is responsible for the deaths of at least 70,000 Palestinians mostly women and children. A higher ratio of dead children in Gaza than every war in the past five years. So CNN and Fox should also interview political leaders, including Israel, Israel ones and they need to ask them the questions that masses of Americans have on their minds, which is why are you committing a genocide and they need to say “wait a minute a lot of Americans on both the left and right think Israel is committing a genocide. How do you answer it.?”

I For one and very thankful that we see this beautiful teamwork between lefties and righties like Glenn Greenwald, Dave Smith both of who are Jewish working with people like Tucker Carlson and Candice Owens to stand up to the worst racism in the world right now being carried out against the people of Gaza by the IDF.

Great sources. You must be a white supremacists.

Candace Owens told a congressional subcommittee that “white supremacy and white nationalism is not a problem that is harming Black America”

Tucker Carlson wrongly tells his viewers the country’s white supremacy problem ‘is a hoax’​

Smith agreed with Fuentes statement "why is it that the Holocaust's so toxic? It's because Jews made it that way."

Glenn Greewald Praises Nick Fuentes​

Hate cannot be reasoned with. So why is Black radio hosting ‘conversations’ with Candace Owens?

The darling of the far right recently appeared on The Breakfast Club and Joe Budden’s podcast – exploiting Black America’s willingness to forgive

www.theguardian.com

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/07/media/tucker-carlson-white-supremacy-reliable-sources

Dave Smith, Nazi

The creatures outside looked from comedian to Nazi, and from Nazi to comedian, and from comedian to Nazi again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.

www.humorism.xyz

Glenn Greewald Praises Nick Fuentes Despite His Racist And 'Nazi-Like' Rhetoric

Glenn Greenwald says Nick Fuentes' authenticity makes it easy for critics to "demonize and attack you by taking these quotes that can sound not just very racist, but very almost Nazi-like and kind of an extermination rhetoric." Um, yea. People who use Nazi-like rhetoric tend to get labeled a Nazi.

www.peoplefor.org

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Great sources. You must be a white supremacists.

Candace Owens told a congressional subcommittee that “white supremacy and white nationalism is not a problem that is harming Black America”

Tucker Carlson wrongly tells his viewers the country’s white supremacy problem ‘is a hoax’​

Smith agreed with Fuentes statement "why is it that the Holocaust's so toxic? It's because Jews made it that way."

Glenn Greewald Praises Nick Fuentes​

Hate cannot be reasoned with. So why is Black radio hosting ‘conversations’ with Candace Owens?

The darling of the far right recently appeared on The Breakfast Club and Joe Budden’s podcast – exploiting Black America’s willingness to forgive

www.theguardian.com

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/07/media/tucker-carlson-white-supremacy-reliable-sources

Dave Smith, Nazi

The creatures outside looked from comedian to Nazi, and from Nazi to comedian, and from comedian to Nazi again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.

www.humorism.xyz

Glenn Greewald Praises Nick Fuentes Despite His Racist And 'Nazi-Like' Rhetoric

Glenn Greenwald says Nick Fuentes' authenticity makes it easy for critics to "demonize and attack you by taking these quotes that can sound not just very racist, but very almost Nazi-like and kind of an extermination rhetoric." Um, yea. People who use Nazi-like rhetoric tend to get labeled a Nazi.

www.peoplefor.org

Boy oh boy… here I thought that you were making in roads to coming together and calling out the sickening racism in Israel. Why didn’t you say anything about that. Like you do agree that there is a genocide in Gaza??? it’s the worst racism in the world as people are literally dying because of it 70,000 Palestinians mostly women and children. And your complaint about what…your opinion that some person in America is racist. What’s going on here. Look at the bigger picture.



So you are one of those people who tells people they are racist. You have no proof at all above. Owens and Carlson on numerous occasions have said that they love everyone. They are not against people because of their religion. That’s it. There is nothing you can do to prove otherwise no matter what you say no matter what you link that’s all we need to hear from them.

So what Tucker interviewed Nicholas Fuentes. He is a journalist. Dan Rather interviewed Saddam Hussein. Tucker Carlson also told Fuentes that he needs to stop with this all Jews are bad stuff.

There is a holocaust industry that seeks to call people racist with no evidence that seeks to make money off of this terrible event,, and it can be very problematic. It is not at all the same thing as denying the Holocaust.

Saying that white supremacy is not a problem in America it’s not the same thing as saying blacks are inferior. What in the heck are you doing here. It is so stupid and it’s why Democrats lost the 2024 election….stop this woke rhetoric

Saying that black supremacy is not a problem in America is not the same thing as saying white people are inferior. I mean, there is no logic to these points you’re making if you’re trying to connect them to racism. You will never win on that. But you’ll probably sadly keep doing it and so will other politicians and they will lose.

Show Tucker Carlson saying that “I would understand if Americans are afraid of Judaism” as a sitting congressman Randy Fine said “I would understand if Americans are afraid of Islam.”

Out of curiosity, what do you say to Randy fine who said I would understand if Americans are afraid of Islam...

And what do you say to the Democrat and Indian Ro Khanna who is teaming up working together with Marjorie Greene to oppose the genocide in Gaza. Come on say some stuff about this because it looks like you’re shilling for Netanyahu.

Greenwald is Jewish , Owens is black…your cooked.

 

[Mac1958]

President Trump has a long history of amplifying messages and figures embraced by white supremacists and other domestic extremists.

It would be FAR more interesting if they would just let down their guard and be honest.

It's certainly happening more and more now, so we may get to that point.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

It would be FAR more interesting if they would just let down their guard and be honest.

It's certainly happening more and more now, so we may get to that point.

Now that is on both sides . iow Not directly answering questions. It’s really stupid. I know you claim to criticize both sides and I would agree with you This is something both sides to do at least in this case.

But if you think about it, that’s why we should respect someone like Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, and even Nick Fuentes. They directly answer whatever question is put to him. No stupid politics.

Vivek Ramaswamy also answers any questions put to him. No stupid skirting around the question. And obviously, I disagree with a lot of what Fuentes has to say. He’s the same thing as some of the pro Israel, politicians and media figures who openly criticize Islam. Just replace the word Muslim with Jews and you have Fuentes.

 

[Correll]

President Trump has a long history of amplifying messages and figures embraced by white supremacists and other domestic extremists.

....

No, he doesn't. You are a lying asshole.

 

[d0gbreath]

I don't know much about him, but how does someone become a white nationalist with a Hispanic surname?

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

I don't know much about him, but how does someone become a white nationalist with a Hispanic surname?

You “don’t know much about him” but you call him a white nationalist. Interesting.

I can tell you replace the word Jew with Muslim and you have people on the mainstream media like Mark Levin, or Ben Shapiro. Or even lefties like Bill Maher or Sam Harris.


Take just a little bit of time to hear what Fuentes has to say instead of what some talking head on the mainstream media says about him. Lol. Have a good one.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Boy oh boy… here I thought that you were making in roads to coming together and calling out the sickening racism in Israel. Why didn’t you say anything about that. Like you do agree that there is a genocide in Gaza??? it’s the worst racism in the world as people are literally dying because of it 70,000 Palestinians mostly women and children. And your complaint about what…your opinion that some person in America is racist. What’s going on here. Look at the bigger picture.



So you are one of those people who tells people they are racist. You have no proof at all above. Owens and Carlson on numerous occasions have said that they love everyone. They are not against people because of their religion. That’s it. There is nothing you can do to prove otherwise no matter what you say no matter what you link that’s all we need to hear from them.

So what Tucker interviewed Nicholas Fuentes. He is a journalist. Dan Rather interviewed Saddam Hussein. Tucker Carlson also told Fuentes that he needs to stop with this all Jews are bad stuff.

There is a holocaust industry that seeks to call people racist with no evidence that seeks to make money off of this terrible event,, and it can be very problematic. It is not at all the same thing as denying the Holocaust.

Saying that white supremacy is not a problem in America it’s not the same thing as saying blacks are inferior. What in the heck are you doing here. It is so stupid and it’s why Democrats lost the 2024 election….stop this woke rhetoric

Saying that black supremacy is not a problem in America is not the same thing as saying white people are inferior. I mean, there is no logic to these points you’re making if you’re trying to connect them to racism. You will never win on that. But you’ll probably sadly keep doing it and so will other politicians and they will lose.

Show Tucker Carlson saying that “I would understand if Americans are afraid of Judaism” as a sitting congressman Randy Fine said “I would understand if Americans are afraid of Islam.”

Out of curiosity, what do you say to Randy fine who said I would understand if Americans are afraid of Islam...

And what do you say to the Democrat and Indian Ro Khanna who is teaming up working together with Marjorie Greene to oppose the genocide in Gaza. Come on say some stuff about this because it looks like you’re shilling for Netanyahu.

Greenwald is Jewish , Owens is black…your cooked.

In answer to Randy Fine I would say we cannot paint all of islam the same, just like all religions. There are muslims who interpretation of islam makes them dangerous, That is not all Muslims. We need more communication between races and religions. Too much racism and bigotry is based non lack of knowledge and understanding.
I think Netanyahu is despicable, not Isreal, not Jews. His actions could result in genocide. I think Hamas is despicable, not Palestine, not Palestinians.
Your defensivenes, your view of the four individuals and the tone of this post makes me feel you are racist and bigoted.
You cannot paint all individuals the same based on race or religion.

 

[whitehall]

Wiki automatically assumes that a "white" radio personality who loves his Country, "nationalist", has to be a "white supremacist". It's kneejerk bias and race baiting fed to mostly lefties on a daily basis.

 

[ElmerMudd]

No, he doesn't. You are a lying asshole.

I know it is impossible for the cult members to accept who their cult leader is.
10 Signs You're In A Cult
• The leader is the ultimate authority. ...
• The group suppresses skepticism. ...
• The group delegitimizes former members. ...
• The group is paranoid about the outside world. ...
• The group relies on shame cycles. ...
• The leader is above the law. ...
• The group uses “thought reform” methods. ...
• The group is elitist.

 

[struth]

I know it is impossible for the cult members to accept who their cult leader is.
10 Signs You're In A Cult
• The leader is the ultimate authority. ...
• The group suppresses skepticism. ...
• The group delegitimizes former members. ...
• The group is paranoid about the outside world. ...
• The group relies on shame cycles. ...
• The leader is above the law. ...
• The group uses “thought reform” methods. ...
• The group is elitist.

You sound a lot like Nick “liberal are right” Fuentes Neo-Nazi Influencer Nick Fuentes Now Says ‘Trumpism Is a Cult’

 

[ElmerMudd]

You sound a lot like Nick “liberal are right” Fuentes Neo-Nazi Influencer Nick Fuentes Now Says ‘Trumpism Is a Cult’

Nick and I agree that you are a cult.
That is all we agree about.