What is Marine Le Pen guilty of in National Rally embezzlement case?

[Ringo]

Yes... And what's your point....

It is a well paid job... You are a very senior politician...

It compares about the same as a US Congressman...

So what is your point....

If I have to explain simple things to you, I'm left to ask: are you an idiot or a hypocrite? Or both?

 

[Frankeneinstein]

What elites... They can put up an uncorrupt politician...

No one force Le Pen to embezzle the money... She did that herself... The evidence is clear as day, we have asked multiple times do es anyone here refute the charges and could you do it with evidence...

We have had nothing back... BTW that was Le Pen's defence too...

It is always depressing to find out the politician that you backed is corrupt, but that happens..

TRANSLATION: "the judiciary/left wing elitists have every right to override and or pre-empt the will of the electorate"

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Nope...

Judiciary had to judicature on a crime... They had a case and she was found guilty...

Under French Constitutional law she is fired immediately from public office and is banned from running for office for the next 5 years...

Got that, French Constitution....

And yes, in adducting a crime, that is the judiciary job... That is also written in the French Constitution (also in US Constitution.)

TRANSLATION: "OVERIDING AND OR PRE-EMPTING THE WILL OF THE ELECTORATE IS CODIFIED AND SETTLED LAW IN EUROPE [AND HOPEFULLY AMERICA SOON"], IT'S NOT JUST FOR NAZI'S ANYMORE"

 

[CowboyTed]

If I have to explain simple things to you, I'm left to ask: are you an idiot or a hypocrite? Or both?

€10k a month is €120 a year salary...

US Senator or House Rep

That is €160,000 a year


So US get paid €40,000 more...

 

[CowboyTed]

TRANSLATION: "OVERIDING AND OR PRE-EMPTING THE WILL OF THE ELECTORATE IS CODIFIED AND SETTLED LAW IN EUROPE [AND HOPEFULLY AMERICA SOON"], IT'S NOT JUST FOR NAZI'S ANYMORE"

She broke the law and was convicted...

Got that... The is the judiciary job...

You think that the electorate decides criminal Cases... Read the constitution of France, they don't...
Criminal cases are decided in a court where the evidence is prepared and presented...

Please show is in the constitution where it says the electorate decides criminal cases?

 

[Frankeneinstein]

She broke the law and was convicted..
Got that... The is the judiciary job...

TRANSLATION: "She was too far ahead, we had to do something"

You think that the electorate decides criminal Cases...
Read the constitution of France, they don't...

No, you just need to go ^there/here^ so as to avoid admitting the obvious, that the court shut down the peoples choice.

Criminal cases are decided in a court where the evidence is prepared and presented...

and so now are elections

Please show is in the constitution where it says the electorate decides criminal cases?

I can't show where it says that in their constitution or quote where I said that in this thread [can you quote it?]...and even more importantly, who cares?

 

[CowboyTed]

TRANSLATION: "She was too far ahead, we had to do something"

No, you just need to go ^there/here^ so as to avoid admitting the obvious, that the court shut down the peoples choice.

and so now are elections

I can't show where it says that in their constitution or quote where I said that in this thread [can you quote it?]...and even more importantly, who cares?

You clearly are unable or unwilling to understand the law....

Le Pen broke the law and is a corrupt, French Constitution is very clear about this.

You think corrupt politicians should be allowed stand for election without any hindrance even thought the crime they committed was to further their political ambitions... Le Pen used the money the scammed to pay for political assets...

This is the French Law, are you struggling to understand the law... Le Pen is subject to French Law... You are not above the law when running for or about to run for office... That is an American thing for some reason.

We notice that you have given no evidence of her innocence...

 

[Frankeneinstein]

You clearly are unable or unwilling to understand the law....

Le Pen broke the law and is a corrupt, French Constitution is very clear about this.

You think corrupt politicians should be allowed stand for election without any hindrance even thought the crime they committed was to further their political ambitions... Le Pen used the money the scammed to pay for political assets...

This is the French Law, are you struggling to understand the law... Le Pen is subject to French Law... You are not above the law when running for or about to run for office... That is an American thing for some reason.

We notice that you have given no evidence of her innocence...

TRANSLATION: "WELL GET USED TO IT, WE'RE ALL NAZI'S NOW"

 

[CowboyTed]

TRANSLATION: "WELL GET USED TO IT, WE'RE ALL NAZI'S NOW"

You do a lot of these 'TRANSLATION'....

Do you struggle to talk straight and only talk in innuendo...

You have shown no evidence that she isn't a corrupt politician...

You are just saying you want the option to vote for a corrupt politician... Well in many countries in the world, if you are found guilty of political corruption you are immediately fired (by law) and banned from running for a certain period...

And yes, Trump would have been banned if in France...

Why? Because public sentiment and propaganda can't be leveraged in a court of law... Courts are about the facts and about hearing a case in it entirety...

Le Pen gained an advantage by pumping this money into her party. It gave her a personal advantage.
Criminals should not gain from their crimes is a basic concept.

 

[Zavulon]

Basically, French (as well as German, Hungarian, Slovak, American and many other) people doesn't want to be a cannon fodder in the unwinnable war against Russia. People prefer to be rich and safe rather than unsafe and poor. That's why popularity of "pro-Russian" (de facto - pro-People) is raising, and popularity of pro-war parties is declining.
Hence - they need to remove them by another ways.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

You do a lot of these 'TRANSLATION'....

I'm fluent in liberal speak,

Do you struggle to talk straight and only talk in innuendo...

in as much as proper translation is a struggle perhaps, but the fact that the translation shows innuendo is proof the "struggle to talk straight" comes from the source and not myself.

You have shown no evidence that she isn't a corrupt politician...

because it is a Non sequitur, it has no bearing on my post which was/is to point out yet another european election is undermining the electorate as a matter of "business as usual" in europe where such things are not just ensconced in law but seem to be a part of the governing DNA and is now being practiced in America

You are just saying you want the option to vote for a corrupt politician...

well in much the same way I don't want journalists punished/fined/jailed for their obvious lies/bias/propaganda or lawyers in prosecuting the innocent and/or corrupting elections yes! that is true, freedom is ripe for all those things but using those things to prevent those things is a nazi mentality, which of course is also a part of the european political DNA

Well in many countries in the world, if you are found guilty of political corruption you are immediately fired (by law) and banned from running for a certain period...

Not freedom loving countries

And yes, Trump would have been banned if in France...Why?

because they are no better than he is

Because public sentiment and propaganda can't be leveraged in a court of law... Courts are about the facts and about hearing a case in it entirety...

Which in no way prevents public sentiment from being used as the driving force behind the ideological drive to jail ones opponent and deny that same public their candidate which you pretend folks can elect to change the laws they don't like.

Le Pen gained an advantage by pumping this money into her party. It gave her a personal advantage.

And the elitists use the courts to that end

Criminals should not gain from their crimes is a basic concept.

yes, that is reserved for those who prosecute their political opponents.