What is “immigration reform” Democrat style?

[Lesh]

Trump trashed it because...

(1) the Democrats have been sitting on their a$$e$ for 3+ years prior to serving-up that bill

(2) during those 3+ years Sleepy Old Joe was falsely claiming that he did not have the ability to issue the needed Executive Orders

(3) during those 3+ years the Dems let many millions of Illegal Aliens into the country and handicapped related LEO agencies

(4) and then all of a sudden, within 6-12 months of the Election, all-of-a-sudden they're all fired-up about Border Control, etc.?

Bull$hit.

Trump trashed it to showcase Democrat complacency, negligence, incompetence and bad judgment calls re: this for 3-1/2 years.

As much as I stand firmly against Trump in the coming election, I both understand and respect his NOT bailing-out the Democrats.

They made this mess... and now they risk losing the confidence of the American Voter... the Dems have nobody to blame but themselves.

So Trump trashed it because it took too long to craft?

Jesus that’s a stupid claim.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Ok. But the point was the claim that since they were coming from lawless places they must be lawless.

No. They are trying to ESCAPE that lawlessness’s

These are people trying to ESCAPE that violence

Because you say so?
Link us to such data so we can move beyond your own personal hypothesis….Thanks in advance.

 

[BrokeLoser]

So Trump trashed it because it took too long to craft?

Jesus that’s a stupid claim.

hahaha…sad that you think the almost dead dude needed a ‘Bill’ to do the right thing for Americans.

 

[Lesh]

hahaha…sad that you think the almost dead dude needed a ‘Bill’ to do the right thing for Americans.

***** all you want. It was written WITH Republicans and included almost nothing Dems wanted. (Pathway to citizenship and help for DACA kids) and Trump killed it because he was afraid it would take the issue away from him.

Now he owns it

 

[SeaMajor7]

The FEDERAL government is waging WAR on We, The People.

They are actively facilitating the INVASION of America

 

[Kondor3]

So Trump trashed it because it took too long to craft?

No, Trump trashed it because the Democrats ignored the Border Tidal Wave until the last minute (just before the election).

Therefore, they deserved to be spanked with the mess they created in the past 3-1/2 years.

Jesus that’s a stupid claim.

Indeed, it would have been "stupid", had it been the way you interpreted it.

Fortunately for me, that was not the case.

 

[Lesh]

No, Trump trashed it because the Democrats ignored the Border Tidal Wave until the last minute (just before the election).

Therefore, they deserved to be spanked with the mess they created in the past 3-1/2 years.

Indeed, it would have been "stupid", had it been the way you interpreted it.

Fortunately for me, that was not the case.

So it wasn’t that it took too long… it was that it took too long

Got it

 

[Kondor3]

So it wasn’t that it took too long… it was that it took too long

Got it

Nope.

It wasn't about timing regarding The Bill whatsoever.

It was about abandoning Trump -era controls and agreements and letting chaos rule for 3+ years before even TRYING to do something about it.

The Democrats OWN today's border-control / immigration / invasion scenario.

 

[Lesh]

Nope.

It wasn't about timing regarding The Bill whatsoever.

It was about abandoning Trump -era controls and agreements and letting chaos rule for 3+ years before even TRYING to do something about it.

The Democrats OWN today's border-control / immigration / invasion scenario.

So it took too long so Trump killed it… and now you have nuffin

 

[Yarddog]

Ok. But the point was the claim that since they were coming from lawless places they must be lawless.

No. They are trying to ESCAPE that lawlessness’s

Yes. Absolutely many of them and probably most of them are trying to escape violence, and get more money living in the U.S.
But the flip side of that is you dont know all of who has come through the border. The U.S. is not only attractive to Migrants who want to work, but also to criminals. Put yourself in their shoes. Why would you want to be a criminal in Venezuela and end up in a Venezuelan prison, when you KNOW... all about U.S. sanctuary cities, and you will get right out of jail without bail..for the same offence that would lock you up back home and probably with a beating. If your a criminal , the U.S. is the best place to do it, and its a fact you cant deny that drug cartels have their operations here. They send thier people across the border.
We are also talking about people who use abducted children in the process. How law abiding is that???

Migrant gangs create burglary ‘industry’; South Americans exploit U.S. law, highly trained to loot

Federal authorities have identified a new crime “industry” involving robbery crews from South America who exploit America’s immigration system, break into a string of homes and make off with loot before fleeing back to their home countries.

www.washingtontimes.com

This doesnt mean all migrants are criminals, but it is enough of them to be a problem.

 

[Lesh]

Yes. Absolutely many of them and probably most of them are trying to escape violence, and get more money living in the U.S.
But the flip side of that is you dont know all of who has come through the border. The U.S. is not only attractive to Migrants who want to work, but also to criminals. Put yourself in their shoes. Why would you want to be a criminal in Venezuela and end up in a Venezuelan prison, when you KNOW... all about U.S. sanctuary cities, and you will get right out of jail without bail..for the same offence that would lock you up back home and probably with a beating. If your a criminal , the U.S. is the best place to do it, and its a fact you cant deny that drug cartels have their operations here. They send thier people across the border.
We are also talking about people who use abducted children in the process. How law abiding is that???

Migrant gangs create burglary ‘industry’; South Americans exploit U.S. law, highly trained to loot

Federal authorities have identified a new crime “industry” involving robbery crews from South America who exploit America’s immigration system, break into a string of homes and make off with loot before fleeing back to their home countries.

www.washingtontimes.com

This doesnt mean all migrants are criminals, but it is enough of them to be a problem.

The statistics say that not true

 

[Yarddog]

The statistics say that not true

the statistics say we know everyone who is here? there are no..unknown gotaways? so there is no risk according to your statistics?

These robberies are fake?

 

[Lesh]

the statistics say we know everyone who is here? there are no..unknown gotaways? so there is no risk according to your statistics?

These robberies are fake?

What robberies?

 

[Yarddog]

What robberies?

It was in the post you responded to.
Obviously its just one example.

Migrant gangs create burglary ‘industry’; South Americans exploit U.S. law, highly trained to loot

Federal authorities have identified a new crime “industry” involving robbery crews from South America who exploit America’s immigration system, break into a string of homes and make off with loot before fleeing back to their home countries.

www.washingtontimes.com

 

[Lesh]

So you think if you”do something” to immigrants that crime will disappear in America

 

[Yarddog]

So you think if you”do something” to immigrants that crime will disappear in America

no one ever said that.

But why hardly put up resistance when millions of people are coming in.. unvetted, on top of the problems we already have? It doesnt make things better, and on top of that, it puts a strain on our public assistance programs, medical, school..etc.

No it wont make all crime go away... but what if we limited illegal traffic? think of the 100K americans a year who die from fentanyl alone... its manufactured by drug cartels... how do you think its getting here? who is selling it here?
I care more about that than people folding sheets in a motel.