What is an "assault rifle"?

[Brain357]

So this is 2aguy eh? Only he uses that lie. Please link to a study on the cdc website claiming millions of lives are saved by guns.

Fascinating we have all these guns saving lives and countries with strong gun control still have homicide rates a fraction of ours...

That Time The CDC Asked About Defensive Gun Uses

Not a cdc study. Nice try. It’s a pro gun study. The survey wasn’t national and if surveys were accurate Hillary would be president.

They used CDC data.

"In 1996, 1997, and 1998, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) conducted large-scale surveys asking about defensive gun use (DGU) in four to six states. Analysis of the raw data allows the estimation of the prevalence of DGU for those areas. Estimates based on CDC’s surveys confirm estimates for the same sets of states based on data from the 1993 National Self-Defense Survey (Kleck and Gertz 1995). Extrapolated to the U.S. as a whole CDC’s survey data imply that defensive uses of guns by crime victims are far more common than offensive uses by criminals. CDC has never reported these results."

You lose.

Again.


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Yes a gun hack grabbed some data the cdc found not to be usable. Not in any way a cdc study.

WHAT FUCKING EVER, DUDE.

You are so fucking dishonest, I can barely tolerate you.

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Says the guy dishonestly claiming a gun hack study is the cdc...

 

[Brain357]

People are dying and the pro gun arguments are filled with lies. Sad.

MORE PEOPLE DIE FROM CAR WRECKS AND YET YOU SAY NOTHING,,,

No longer true. Without cars the economy would collapse, people couldn’t get medicine or food.. without guns most of us wouldn’t notice a difference..

Right v. Privilege

You are never right about anything, are you?

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And that doesn’t change what i said. Most wouldn’t even notice...

 

[progressive hunter]

People are dying and the pro gun arguments are filled with lies. Sad.

MORE PEOPLE DIE FROM CAR WRECKS AND YET YOU SAY NOTHING,,,

No longer true. Without cars the economy would collapse, people couldn’t get medicine or food.. without guns most of us wouldn’t notice a difference..

and without guns we would end up like Venezuela and their economy is doing great from what I hear,,,NOT

and thats not even getting into the history of other socialist countries that banned guns,,,

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

People are dying and the pro gun arguments are filled with lies. Sad.

Liar.

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Says the guy claiming a pro gun hack study is a cdc study.

IT id a CDC study,,,

No it isn’t. Not even close,

Just because the CDC gathered data that gave the wrong narrative and they decided to dishonestly NOT report the results, does not mean the data is flawed.

You could be proved wrong 50 different ways, and you are so stupid, you would never give up.

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[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

People are dying and the pro gun arguments are filled with lies. Sad.

MORE PEOPLE DIE FROM CAR WRECKS AND YET YOU SAY NOTHING,,,

No longer true. Without cars the economy would collapse, people couldn’t get medicine or food.. without guns most of us wouldn’t notice a difference..

Right v. Privilege

You are never right about anything, are you?

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And that doesn’t change what i said. Most wouldn’t even notice...

Most people don't notice when their rights described in the 4th amendment get violated.

Does that mean we should not care?

What's your point?

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[M14 Shooter]

You could be proved wrong 50 different ways, and you are so stupid, you would never give up.

This is why the board has an ignore function.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

That Time The CDC Asked About Defensive Gun Uses

Not a cdc study. Nice try. It’s a pro gun study. The survey wasn’t national and if surveys were accurate Hillary would be president.

They used CDC data.

"In 1996, 1997, and 1998, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) conducted large-scale surveys asking about defensive gun use (DGU) in four to six states. Analysis of the raw data allows the estimation of the prevalence of DGU for those areas. Estimates based on CDC’s surveys confirm estimates for the same sets of states based on data from the 1993 National Self-Defense Survey (Kleck and Gertz 1995). Extrapolated to the U.S. as a whole CDC’s survey data imply that defensive uses of guns by crime victims are far more common than offensive uses by criminals. CDC has never reported these results."

You lose.

Again.


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Yes a gun hack grabbed some data the cdc found not to be usable. Not in any way a cdc study.

WHAT FUCKING EVER, DUDE.

You are so fucking dishonest, I can barely tolerate you.

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Says the guy dishonestly claiming a gun hack study is the cdc...

It WAS the CDC. Can you fucking read? It was the CDC conducting the study.

The CDC did the study.

The study, was conducted, by the CDC.

Conducted, by the CDC, was the study.

Do you get it?

Can I make it more clear?

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[M14 Shooter]

It WAS the CDC. Can you fucking read? It was the CDC conducting the study.

In particular, a 2013 study ordered by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and conducted by The National Academies’ Institute of Medicine and National Research Council reported that, “Defensive use of guns by crime victims is a common occurrence”:


Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million, in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.
That Time The CDC Asked About Defensive Gun Uses

The study in question:
https://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3

Case closed.
Don't feed the troll.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

It WAS the CDC. Can you fucking read? It was the CDC conducting the study.

In particular, a 2013 study ordered by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and conducted by The National Academies’ Institute of Medicine and National Research Council reported that, “Defensive use of guns by crime victims is a common occurrence”:


Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million, in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.
That Time The CDC Asked About Defensive Gun Uses

The study in question:
https://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3

Case closed.

You could prove to "Brain" that the sky is blue and he would argue that point to the grave.

I have to admire his will and determination.



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[M14 Shooter]

You could prove to "Brain" that the sky is blue and he would argue that point to the grave.

Trolls are like that.

 

[NightFox]

Any semi auto rifle which can use large capacity magazines.

WRONG



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Is it? They sure have proven capable of killing lots of people really fast. Call them what you want, but semi auto rifles which can use large capacity magazines must be banned.

Yeah, you're mistaken, methinks you're confusing "assault style" rifles (like for example the AR-15) with actual assault rifles (like for example the M-16). The assault rifles have selectable firing modes (including full automatic) while the assault style rifles do not, other than that, not much difference.

Well ARs sure have proven they can kill many really fast. So they are in my definition.

Yes, part of the design intent of Assault Rifles is the ability to "kill many really fast", apparently military types prefer them that way.

Personally though, if I wanted to take out a bunches of civilians at close quarters quickly I'd go with a couple of plain ole sawed-off shotguns, more devastating at close quarters and far easier to maneuver.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Yes, part of the design intent of Assault Rifles is the ability to "kill many really fast", apparently military types prefer them that way.
Personally though, if I wanted to take out a bunches of civilians at close quarters quickly I'd go with a couple of plain ole sawed-off shotguns, more devastating at close quarters and far easier to maneuver.

The NEW 'weapon of choice' of mass shooters:

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Any semi auto rifle which can use large capacity magazines.

WRONG



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Is it? They sure have proven capable of killing lots of people really fast. Call them what you want, but semi auto rifles which can use large capacity magazines must be banned.

Yeah, you're mistaken, methinks you're confusing "assault style" rifles (like for example the AR-15) with actual assault rifles (like for example the M-16). The assault rifles have selectable firing modes (including full automatic) while the assault style rifles do not, other than that, not much difference.

Well ARs sure have proven they can kill many really fast. So they are in my definition.

Yes, part of the design intent of Assault Rifles is the ability to "kill many really fast", apparently military types prefer them that way.

Personally though, if I wanted to take out a bunches of civilians at close quarters quickly I'd go with a couple of plain ole sawed-off shotguns, more devastating at close quarters and far easier to maneuver.

I love it when you talk dirty.


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[captkaos]

Is one of these an "assault rifle"? If so, which one?

NEITHER is an assault rifle.

It would certainly be reasonable that if they aren't being used to "assault something" they are just regular rifles. Just like, If I only shoot targets then it's just a target rifle right!!!

 

[blackhawk]

It’s an inaccurate term used to describe a semi automatic rifle in order to get an emotional response after a mass shooting.

 

[BlindBoo]

It’s an inaccurate term used to describe a semi automatic rifle in order to get an emotional response after a mass shooting.

That type of hyperbole is strictly allowed from both sides in the US Court of Public Opinion.

 

[blackhawk]

It’s an inaccurate term used to describe a semi automatic rifle in order to get an emotional response after a mass shooting.

That type of hyperbole is strictly allowed from both sides in the US Court of Public Opinion.

Are saying the term assault rifle is not another way of describing a semi automatic rifle and it does not evoke a more emotional response than semi automatic? If not then why not simply call the rifle a semi automatic?

 

[Osiris-ODS]

This is an assault rifle!

Isn't that a Light Machine Gun?

Yes, it's an M249, known as the "squad assault weapon." So since the word "assault" is in the name, I guess this post is not technically inaccurate. If someone committed a mass shooting with one of these, good bet they'd describe it as an assault rifle.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

This is an assault rifle!

Isn't that a Light Machine Gun?

Yes, it's an M249, known as the "squad assault weapon." So since the word "assault" is in the name, I guess this post is not technically inaccurate. If someone committed a mass shooting with one of these, good bet they'd describe it as an assault rifle.

There ya go! That is the spirit! Just having a bit of fun here.

 

[M14 Shooter]

It’s an inaccurate term used to describe a semi automatic rifle in order to get an emotional response after a mass shooting.

That type of hyperbole is strictly allowed from both sides in the US Court of Public Opinion.

Are saying the term assault rifle is not another way of describing a semi automatic rifle and it does not evoke a more emotional response than semi automatic? If not then why not simply call the rifle a semi automatic?

Because that does not evoke the proper emotional response among the ignorant.