M14 Shooter
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Quantify this.
Cite / copy / paste.
This is a lie.
So... you're not going to tell me I am wrong when I say Hitler would have machine-gunned Ghandi and his peaceful overthrow groupies?
What if Trump -is- a fascist?
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Cite / copy / paste.
So... you're not going to tell me I am wrong when I say Hitler would have machine-gunned Ghandi and his peaceful overthrow groupies?
mamooth
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Of course. After all, when have I ever been unable to back up what I say? Remember, I'm a liberal. Your side just makes crap up, but liberals are reality-based.
Truth Social
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A giant Fake News Scam by CBS & 60 Minutes. Her REAL ANSWER WAS CRAZY, OR DUMB, so they actually REPLACED it with another answer in order to save her or, at least, make her look better. A FAKE NEWS SCAM, which is totally illegal. TAKE AWAY THE CBS LICENSE. Election Interference. She is a Moron, and the Fake News Media wants to hide that fact. An UNPRECEDENTED SCANDAL!!! The Dems got them to do this and should be forced to concede the Election? WOW!
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60 Minutes is a major part of the News Organization of CBS, which has just created the Greatest Fraud in Broadcast History. CBS should lose its license, and it should be bid out to the Highest Bidder, as should all other Broadcast Licenses, because they are just as corrupt as CBS — and maybe even WORSE!
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Then you'll be denouncing Trump immediately, right?
I suspect not. I suspect more excuses for him will now be forthcoming.
He would have. But we never said Trump would have the power of Hitler.
That is, you're just lying about what we said. That doesn't make us hypocrites, it makes you a liar.
M14 Shooter
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Your claim:Truth Social
Truth Social is America's "Big Tent" social media platform that encourages an open, free, and honest global conversation without discriminating on the basis of political ideology.
Trump called for revoking the broadcast license of any media org that didn't kiss his own rump fervently enough
Your citations do not support your claim.
Try again?
Because of your lie? What?
So then you agree:
"All over the world, fascist dictators get outed without mass violence" -- but only when those authoritarian fascist dictators are not willing to machine-gun Ghandi and his followers.
When the Ghandi method fails, how do you get the authoritarian fascist dictator out of office?
mamooth
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So "I'm going to pretend I can't read" is your chosen evasion tactic here?
Pathetic, but expected.
Don't worry, nobody expected you to reject fascism. You're a Trump cultist.
M14 Shooter
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I'm sorry you do not like the fact your citations do not back what you said, but there's nothing I can do about it.
I accept your concession.
Now then - you agree:
"All over the world, fascist dictators get outed without mass violence" -- but only when those authoritarian fascist dictators are not willing to machine-gun Ghandi and his followers.
When the Ghandi method fails, how do you get the authoritarian fascist dictator out of office?
mamooth
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And now you're just babbling out of butthurt.
Just admit to being fascist. You'll feel better. It's not like you're fooling anyone.
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mamooth
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And so the thread whimpers and breathes its last.
At least you tried. The cult awards you 100 brownie points. Maybe you've got enough now to exchange for a MAGA beer koozie.
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That would be number 6 on the 14 tenants of Fascism. You should not that only a handful of people in Congress and the United State Military is constantly in his way. But how long can that go on. Notice, one of the ways that Mussolini did in 1926 to seize control was to weaking the Italian version of our Supreme court to the point where he just dissolved it. It doesn't have to be dissolved but all it takes is for over half to be loyal to the Tyrant to result in the same thing. This didn't happen over night and Italy didn't have our Constitution and the UCMJ. But ask yourself this, if the Tyrant were to get in office again, and he completely replaces the Joint Chief of Staff with only those that are loyal to him, how long before the Military starts backing up the insantity.
The 14 Characteristics of Fascism
Political scientist Dr. Lawrence Britt recently wrote an article about fascism ("Fascism Anyone?," Free Inquiry, Spring 2003, page 20). Studying the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile), Dr. Britt found they all had 14 elements in common. He calls these the identifying characteristics of fascism. The excerpt is in accordance with the magazine's policy.
The 14 characteristics are:
- Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
- Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
- Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
- Supremacy of the Military
Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
- Rampant Sexism
The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.
- Controlled Mass Media
Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
- Obsession with National Security
Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
- Religion and Government are Intertwined
Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
- Corporate Power is Protected
The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
- Labor Power is Suppressed
Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .
- Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.
- Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
- Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
- Fraudulent Elections
Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
M14 Shooter
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Yes, yes, we know -- Trump is an authoritarian fascist dictator blahblahblahblahblah
Given that, and the very real possibility of him taking over...
Why are you so keen on taking "weapons of war" off the streets?
Vrenn
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Yet you support him. It's a sad thing when you know he's dangerous. As for taking weapons of war off the street, exactly what war are you gearing up for? If you mean the overthrow of our government then you just signed your own death warrant.
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M14 Shooter
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So... How do you plan to get Trump out of office?
Vrenn
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With a forklift, silly.
M14 Shooter
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I accept your surrender.
Back into the pit.
Vrenn
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Surrender? LOL, you certainly have a high regard for yourself. You just troll, nothing more.
Invisibleflash
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Ignorantly or otherwise, that Trump is a fascist is a widely held belief of the left.
Similarly, the left is more than happy to claim Trump hopes to be a dictator, an authoritarian, et al.
Is Donald Trump a fascist?
The US presidential election is neck and neck. But only one candidate has been compared to Adolf Hitler. Is it an exaggeration or based in fact?www.theguardian.com
Trump and the F-Word
In a new book, “Did It Happen Here?,” scholars debate what the F-word conceals and what it reveals.www.newyorker.com
Why We Should Now Call Trump a Fascist, and How Trumpism Can Be Stopped
As a global citizen and someone who researches the dark side of leadership, ILA Fellow Professor Dennis Tourish discusses the rise of Trumpism and the similarities between it and other fascist movements. If Trumpism is a fascist movement, how can leaders work to shore up democracy and stop it?ilaglobalnetwork.org
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-nightly/2024/05/21/the-rights-fascism-problem-00159265ad nauseam
Does Donald Trump really want to be a dictator?
David Smith, Associate Professor in American Politics and Foreign Policy in the Discipline of Government and International Relations, unpacks the language Donald Trump is using to address his Christian audience.www.sydney.edu.au
ad nauseam
Donald Trump’s “Dictator” Promise Is No Joke
The MAGA base is cheering on Trump’s antidemocratic rhetoric, which the media should take very seriously.www.vanityfair.com
For those of you who -actually - believe you face the very real prospect of an authoritarian fascist dictator taking power, one question rises to the top:
Why are you so keen on taking "weapons of war" off the streets?
To be a good dictator you need the backing of the military. Trump or no Trump, dems own the military.
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Missouri_Mike
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Or worse, what if comes out as a vegan!Ignorantly or otherwise, that Trump is a fascist is a widely held belief of the left.
Similarly, the left is more than happy to claim Trump hopes to be a dictator, an authoritarian, et al.
Is Donald Trump a fascist?
The US presidential election is neck and neck. But only one candidate has been compared to Adolf Hitler. Is it an exaggeration or based in fact?Trump and the F-Word
In a new book, “Did It Happen Here?,” scholars debate what the F-word conceals and what it reveals.Why We Should Now Call Trump a Fascist, and How Trumpism Can Be Stopped
As a global citizen and someone who researches the dark side of leadership, ILA Fellow Professor Dennis Tourish discusses the rise of Trumpism and the similarities between it and other fascist movements. If Trumpism is a fascist movement, how can leaders work to shore up democracy and stop it?https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-nightly/2024/05/21/the-rights-fascism-problem-00159265ad nauseam
Does Donald Trump really want to be a dictator?
David Smith, Associate Professor in American Politics and Foreign Policy in the Discipline of Government and International Relations, unpacks the language Donald Trump is using to address his Christian audience.ad nauseamDonald Trump’s “Dictator” Promise Is No Joke
The MAGA base is cheering on Trump’s antidemocratic rhetoric, which the media should take very seriously.
For those of you who -actually - believe you face the very real prospect of an authoritarian fascist dictator taking power, one question rises to the top:
Why are you so keen on taking "weapons of war" off the streets?
TemplarKormac
Political Atheist
Ignorantly or otherwise, that Trump is a fascist is a widely held belief of the left.
Similarly, the left is more than happy to claim Trump hopes to be a dictator, an authoritarian, et al.
Is Donald Trump a fascist?
The US presidential election is neck and neck. But only one candidate has been compared to Adolf Hitler. Is it an exaggeration or based in fact?Trump and the F-Word
In a new book, “Did It Happen Here?,” scholars debate what the F-word conceals and what it reveals.Why We Should Now Call Trump a Fascist, and How Trumpism Can Be Stopped
As a global citizen and someone who researches the dark side of leadership, ILA Fellow Professor Dennis Tourish discusses the rise of Trumpism and the similarities between it and other fascist movements. If Trumpism is a fascist movement, how can leaders work to shore up democracy and stop it?https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-nightly/2024/05/21/the-rights-fascism-problem-00159265ad nauseam
Does Donald Trump really want to be a dictator?
David Smith, Associate Professor in American Politics and Foreign Policy in the Discipline of Government and International Relations, unpacks the language Donald Trump is using to address his Christian audience.ad nauseamDonald Trump’s “Dictator” Promise Is No Joke
The MAGA base is cheering on Trump’s antidemocratic rhetoric, which the media should take very seriously.
For those of you who -actually - believe you face the very real prospect of an authoritarian fascist dictator taking power, one question rises to the top:
Why are you so keen on taking "weapons of war" off the streets?
Doesn't matter what they think. Anyone not left of left is a fascist. It has driven centrist liberals like Elon Musk away from the party. Their belief in idiocracy has lost them one of the greatest engineering minds of our generation.
Recall that the left's dabbling with communism in the 1960's drove Reagan away from the Democrats then.
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The Federal Military is actually owned by Congress. When a President tries to misuse them, Congress can override him.
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