What if Trump -is- a fascist?

[M14 Shooter]

They're using it for political cover and to avoid debating the merits of going to war. This way they can either carp from the sidelines or cheer, depending on how the battles are going and their constituents feel without having their names attached to a formal declaration. No one can come back them and say, "You are to blame for this".

Of course.

 

[hadit]

You can stop this hiperaly at any time. It's not all weapons, only the one most likely to be used in a mass murder of students in the schools.

You're talking about handguns then.

 

[Dr.Know]

We already have fascism in the USA and in fact our government is more fascist than democratic. Look at how corporations control Washington DC, that is fascism. Most masstards dont know that fascism is LEFT OF CENTER along with Socialism and Communism or National Socialism ( Nazi).

Extreme Right is called ANARCHY.

I suspect the OP means Totalitarian not fascism and no, we are not a totalitarian state because we have 3 branches of government that provide a check on the other 2. If you think Trump is a authoritarian, your an idiot, he is way too much of a pacifist and was a liberal most of this life.

 

[Vrenn]

So if Congress is responsible for wars… how have we managed to be involved in so many since WW II?

The President has 60 days to wage war. AT the end of that time, Congress has to decide to either unfund it or fund it and declare war. This has got to be the stupidest law ever created. The War Powers Act needs to be rewritten to prevent an over zealous president from attacking and defeating small countries without much of a military. Has this ever happened before? Panama, Granada just to name two.

 

[Vrenn]

You're talking about handguns then.

I am talking about whether tRump is a fascist or not. Pay attention, stupid.

 

[DStar777]

only the one most likely to be used in a mass murder of students in the schools.

It always confuses me as to why only this particular kind or catagory of guns is targeted for removal.. as if wanna be shooters won't just obtain (or steal) whatever weapon happens to be available. Just get it over with and confiscate every gun .. without exception. Or how about this.. put everyone in jail so they can't shoot anyone. How far would go to keep everyone 100% safe??

 

[hadit]

I am talking about whether tRump is a fascist or not. Pay attention, stupid.

You literally said this:

"You can stop this hiperaly at any time. It's not all weapons, only the one most likely to be used in a mass murder of students in the schools."

If you can construe that to mean you're talking about TRUMP! being a fascist, you're odd.

 

[sartre play]

Am not sure what labels apply, Just too simple for me, All his talk is negative.
And while running to lead us all, he loudly proclaims hate for half of the country.

 

[Vrenn]

It always confuses me as to why only this particular kind or catagory of guns is targeted for removal.. as if wanna be shooters won't just obtain (or steal) whatever weapon happens to be available. Just get it over with and confiscate every gun .. without exception. Or how about this.. put everyone in jail so they can't shoot anyone. How far would go to keep everyone 100% safe??

I guess you are proving that you love your AR more than we are supposed to love our children.

 

[hadit]

It always confuses me as to why only this particular kind or catagory of guns is targeted for removal.. as if wanna be shooters won't just obtain (or steal) whatever weapon happens to be available. Just get it over with and confiscate every gun .. without exception. Or how about this.. put everyone in jail so they can't shoot anyone. How far would go to keep everyone 100% safe??

They're attempting an incremental approach. If they are successful at eliminating ONE gun, they will immediately switch to banning another after it becomes obvious that the death rate has not gone down at all (because we're not addressing the root causes of murder and assault). As for safety, they only believe in it as long as they think the subject on the table is something that won't impact them. They don't own guns, don't want to own guns and don't think anyone else should either, so they feel safe going full faux outrage on them.

BUT, take it to something that DOES impact them and watch them change their tune. We lose tens of thousands of lives, for example, on highways every year. Most, if not all of those deaths would be prevented if we just made all motor vehicles physically unable to travel faster than 35 mph, and unable to even start without a breathalyzer test. See how few gun banners would give up the privilege of driving fast in order to save thousands of lives. All of a sudden, excuses start flying.

"I'm a good driver (certainly better than that guy I just passed who thinks he owns my road), I've never had a crash. My car should be allowed to go faster. I hate being slow."
"I'm a responsible gun owner. None of my guns have ever harmed a human being. The vast majority of guns have never harmed a human being, so why are you after them?"

"It's important that we be able to move ourselves and goods on the highways quickly".
"It's important that we be able to defend our homes if the worst happens and we're invaded".

"Don't worry, we'll only get the high-performance cars that no one needs off the road (later we'll come back and slow yours down, just for safety's sake)."
"Don't worry, we'll only go after the 'assault' rifles no one needs (that no one seems able to define other than big, black and scary looking). Later we'll come back and ban yours as well. Just for safety's sake".

 

[hadit]

I guess you are proving that you love your AR more than we are supposed to love our children.

Interesting. When you are going to sign a petition to make cars unable to go faster than 35mph? For the children, you know.

 

[Vrenn]

Interesting. When you are going to sign a petition to make cars unable to go faster than 35mph? For the children, you know.

The speed of the vehicle is enforceable. Usually, the speed limit in a school zone is between 20 and 25mph. Enough have been bagged running faster to let us all know that the speed limit will be enforced. And that means that cars cannot travel faster than 25mph without repercussions.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Interesting. When you are going to sign a petition to make cars unable to go faster than 35mph? For the children, you know.

Liberals love dead children -- the more dead kids, the easier it is to push their mindless agenda.

 

[hadit]

The speed of the vehicle is enforceable. Usually, the speed limit in a school zone is between 20 and 25mph. Enough have been bagged running faster to let us all know that the speed limit will be enforced. And that means that cars cannot travel faster than 25mph without repercussions.

Only after the fact, which doesn't stop people from blasting through the zone at 75 mph. If their cars were physically limited to 35, they would be fewer injuries and death. People also die on the highways while driving the speed limit. Hit a patch of ice and they're head-on into a tree at 70 mph. They don't realize a car is stopped on the side of the road and they rear-end it at 65 mph. These are all much more easily survived at 35 mph. If we're really going to be serious about safety, especially for the children, slow down the cars.

This is how the safety argument works. People are usually all gung-ho about making the other guy give up a freedom as long as they don't exercise it themselves. Like I said earlier, bring it into an arena where they exercise the freedom, and the excuses start to fly.

 

[Vrenn]

Only after the fact, which doesn't stop people from blasting through the zone at 75 mph. If their cars were physically limited to 35, they would be fewer injuries and death. People also die on the highways while driving the speed limit. Hit a patch of ice and they're head-on into a tree at 70 mph. They don't realize a car is stopped on the side of the road and they rear-end it at 65 mph. These are all much more easily survived at 35 mph. If we're really going to be serious about safety, especially for the children, slow down the cars.

The accident rate did go down when the 55mph limit was enacted. I still won't exceed 65 even when the speed limit is 80. But I have lived a very long life and would be able to attend most of you in here wakes.

This is how the safety argument works. People are usually all gung-ho about making the other guy give up a freedom as long as they don't exercise it themselves. Like I said earlier, bring it into an arena where they exercise the freedom, and the excuses start to fly.

Agreed.