What has caused 10,307% more deaths but has 68% less google searches then "ban guns"?

[Wildman]

To the group that think women who have had multiple abortions i.e. nearly 20 million abortions 1973 is OK because that's the women's right!
But they want guns that have killed one percent of the 54 million abortions banned.

Do you people that think women with multiple abortions is OK but guns should be banned.. do you understand why you look deranged?

I mean really.. you get all bent out of shape over guns that killed since 1973 1% of the total 54 million abortions but have no problem with abortions!
This really sounds like the German people denial of the deaths of 6 million Jews.

You supporters of abortions (again I have no problem for rape,incest or health of the mother or even the first abortion) BUT with 44.7% of all abortions being done by women that have had one, two, three or more previous abortions??? Isn't that rather disgusting to continue that practice?

i fully support what you are saying..., but, the liberscum here will just continue to mock you.., they love killing babies.

 

[Wildman]

Abortion isn't death. It's "choice".

Nicer car. Better clothes. More free time. More dates.....

....to start the cycle of abortion all over.

 

[ShawnChris13]

Her body is her body. But there's another body growing inside her body. That body requires her support, but it is not her. It won't stay with her for life, it won't share her name. It will receive its own identity. It's not her rights that are being fought over, but the rights of the new body being ignored. That's what the argument for abortion is.

 

[Politico]

Strange!!! some love their old pets(dogs, cats) far more than the 50 million + babies that never enen get one day in the sun.

I would be one of them Jizz. However I couldn't care less what age you are.

 

[sfcalifornia]

To the group that think women who have had multiple abortions i.e. nearly 20 million abortions 1973 is OK because that's the women's right!
But they want guns that have killed one percent of the 54 million abortions banned.

Do you people that think women with multiple abortions is OK but guns should be banned.. do you understand why you look deranged?

I mean really.. you get all bent out of shape over guns that killed since 1973 1% of the total 54 million abortions but have no problem with abortions!
This really sounds like the German people denial of the deaths of 6 million Jews.

You supporters of abortions (again I have no problem for rape,incest or health of the mother or even the first abortion) BUT with 44.7% of all abortions being done by women that have had one, two, three or more previous abortions??? Isn't that rather disgusting to continue that practice?

i fully support what you are saying..., but, the liberscum here will just continue to mock you.., they love killing babies.

When we're called libscum baby-killers, we know we've won the discussion.

 

[mal]

[MENTION=31057]JoeB131[/MENTION]

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She has her own Nervous System and Heartbeat... The Heartbeat she is stopping for Convenience is NOT her own.

Easiest way to avoid Abortion is to NOT get Pregnant.

Link me to the Abortion that Save a Woman's Life...

When you are done there give me the Stats on how many of the hundreds of thousands of Abortions last year were done because of a Rape.



peace...

A couple points, since you aren't being a phony like Mac.

I think pro-choicers invoking of Rape and Incest (probably less than 1% of abortions performed) is about as disingenous as pro-lifers invoking third trimester abortions (also less than 1% of all abortions performed.)

I will even stipulate, the vast majority of abortions performed are performed on women who consented to the sex act, but didn't want to be pregnant, and most of them are performed long before the fetus is viable or anyone in that woman's life would even know she was pregnant.

Now, all of that said, yes, it would be nice if we had less abortions. I'm sure it's never an easy decision. Of course, the way you get there is not to ban it. The Philippines bans abortions, and they have more abortions than we do per capita.

The way you get to less abortions is better sex education, universal health care, and family and medical leave and a strong social welfare state. This is what most of those evil commie socialist Europeans do, and they have half as many abortions per capita than us God-loving Americans.

But not having a uterus, I don't have a dog in this fight, and I refuse to let religious nutters put crazy people in office who end up making my life more difficult.

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What percentage of Abortions are performed when there is a Beating Heart?...

As for Socialism/Communism being the Remedy for Abortion... Let me know how that's working in the Former Soviet and China.

WHO/Europe | Facts and figures about abortion in the European Region

Europe's rates don't look bad, I will give you that...

But in America the MOST Liberal/Progressive pro-Universal Healthcare States have the Highest Abortion Rates:

Facts About Abortion: U.S. Abortion Statistics

•In 2011, the highest number of reported abortions occurred in California (181,730), New York (138,370) and Florida (84,990); the fewest occurred in Wyoming (120), South Dakota (600) and North Dakota (1,250) (AGI).

•The 2011 abortion rates by state ranged from a low of 3.8 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15-44 in Mississippi (Wyoming had too few abortions for reliable tabulation) to a high of 28.6 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15-44 in New York (AGI).

Our Conservative States make the EU's Abortion Rates look Horrific.

New York Dominates in Liberal Policies and Access to Healthcare/Women's Health etc and they have an Absurdly HIGH Abortion Rate.

Abortion happens WAY more in Liberal/Progressive States and in that the Cities like NY than they do in Conservative areas.

And even with all of the Baby Killing, the Rate of Dependency on the System to Single Mothers etc is still Dominately in those same areas.

Explain that to me.



peace...

Well?...



peace...

 

[FA_Q2]

Just the FACTS folks!!!

Since 1973 there have been...
54,559,615 abortions
524,279 deaths from fire arms..
Deaths from abortion vs guns since 1973 ? Sifting Reality

That means there were 103 times more abortions then gun deaths.. remember abortions are legal!!!

If 44.7% of the abortions were by women that have already had ONE or more abortions isn't there something that can be done?

• 36.6% were performed on women with one or two prior abortions, and
• 8.1% were performed on women with three or more prior abortions (CDC).
• 44.7% or nearly half by women having abortions have one or more previously.

Facts About Abortion: U.S. Abortion Statistics

Now a simple measure of how people see these facts...

About 452,000 results for "ban guns" or 207% MORE google searches for "ban guns" then "ban abortions"!

About 147,000 results for "Ban abortions".


So can someone explain why 54,559,615 deaths are less important then 524,279 deaths--- YET fire-arm deaths get 70% more attention!

And when people like me simply ask why are 44.7% of these 54 million deaths done by people that have caused the deaths before are not held responsible?

Ah.. the sanctity of a woman's right!

You need to amend the Constitution.

where in the Constitution is a womans right to abortion ? i have searched the Constitution from one end to the other and i find no such word as "ABORTION" any where.

When did you become a democrat?

I only ask because it is the democrats that have this asinine thought that the constitution is a list of things that you have a right to do rather than a list of things THAT THE GOVERNMENT can and cannot do.

IOW, abortion does not have to be in the constitution. What needs to be in the constitution is the authorization for the government to control your body. Is that in there? I think not.

 

[skookerasbil]

The gun grabbers have never been more irrelevant politically than now >>>

Gallup Poll: Support for gun control is waning, opposition to handgun ban at all-time high

 

[healthmyths]

[MENTION=31057]JoeB131[/MENTION]

A couple points, since you aren't being a phony like Mac.

I think pro-choicers invoking of Rape and Incest (probably less than 1% of abortions performed) is about as disingenous as pro-lifers invoking third trimester abortions (also less than 1% of all abortions performed.)

I will even stipulate, the vast majority of abortions performed are performed on women who consented to the sex act, but didn't want to be pregnant, and most of them are performed long before the fetus is viable or anyone in that woman's life would even know she was pregnant.

Now, all of that said, yes, it would be nice if we had less abortions. I'm sure it's never an easy decision. Of course, the way you get there is not to ban it. The Philippines bans abortions, and they have more abortions than we do per capita.

The way you get to less abortions is better sex education, universal health care, and family and medical leave and a strong social welfare state. This is what most of those evil commie socialist Europeans do, and they have half as many abortions per capita than us God-loving Americans.

But not having a uterus, I don't have a dog in this fight, and I refuse to let religious nutters put crazy people in office who end up making my life more difficult.

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What percentage of Abortions are performed when there is a Beating Heart?...

As for Socialism/Communism being the Remedy for Abortion... Let me know how that's working in the Former Soviet and China.

WHO/Europe | Facts and figures about abortion in the European Region

Europe's rates don't look bad, I will give you that...

But in America the MOST Liberal/Progressive pro-Universal Healthcare States have the Highest Abortion Rates:

Facts About Abortion: U.S. Abortion Statistics

•In 2011, the highest number of reported abortions occurred in California (181,730), New York (138,370) and Florida (84,990); the fewest occurred in Wyoming (120), South Dakota (600) and North Dakota (1,250) (AGI).

•The 2011 abortion rates by state ranged from a low of 3.8 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15-44 in Mississippi (Wyoming had too few abortions for reliable tabulation) to a high of 28.6 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15-44 in New York (AGI).

Our Conservative States make the EU's Abortion Rates look Horrific.

New York Dominates in Liberal Policies and Access to Healthcare/Women's Health etc and they have an Absurdly HIGH Abortion Rate.

Abortion happens WAY more in Liberal/Progressive States and in that the Cities like NY than they do in Conservative areas.

And even with all of the Baby Killing, the Rate of Dependency on the System to Single Mothers etc is still Dominately in those same areas.

Explain that to me.



peace...

Well?...



peace...

It is appropriate that the two liberal states that lead in abortions and were also losing population.
What this means is fewer liberal progressive voters it would seem.

 

[mal]

[MENTION=31057]JoeB131[/MENTION]

What percentage of Abortions are performed when there is a Beating Heart?...

As for Socialism/Communism being the Remedy for Abortion... Let me know how that's working in the Former Soviet and China.

WHO/Europe | Facts and figures about abortion in the European Region

Europe's rates don't look bad, I will give you that...

But in America the MOST Liberal/Progressive pro-Universal Healthcare States have the Highest Abortion Rates:

Facts About Abortion: U.S. Abortion Statistics

•In 2011, the highest number of reported abortions occurred in California (181,730), New York (138,370) and Florida (84,990); the fewest occurred in Wyoming (120), South Dakota (600) and North Dakota (1,250) (AGI).

•The 2011 abortion rates by state ranged from a low of 3.8 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15-44 in Mississippi (Wyoming had too few abortions for reliable tabulation) to a high of 28.6 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15-44 in New York (AGI).

Our Conservative States make the EU's Abortion Rates look Horrific.

New York Dominates in Liberal Policies and Access to Healthcare/Women's Health etc and they have an Absurdly HIGH Abortion Rate.

Abortion happens WAY more in Liberal/Progressive States and in that the Cities like NY than they do in Conservative areas.

And even with all of the Baby Killing, the Rate of Dependency on the System to Single Mothers etc is still Dominately in those same areas.

Explain that to me.



peace...

Well?...



peace...

It is appropriate that the two liberal states that lead in abortions and were also losing population.
What this means is fewer liberal progressive voters it would seem.

Nope... They just Moved... Some to my State... I Hope they leave so things can Change back to how they were before 2008.



peace...

 

[Pogo]

To the group that think women who have had multiple abortions i.e. nearly 20 million abortions 1973 is OK because that's the women's right!
But they want guns that have killed one percent of the 54 million abortions banned.

Do you people that think women with multiple abortions is OK but guns should be banned.. do you understand why you look deranged?

I mean really.. you get all bent out of shape over guns that killed since 1973 1% of the total 54 million abortions but have no problem with abortions!
This really sounds like the German people denial of the deaths of 6 million Jews.

You supporters of abortions (again I have no problem for rape,incest or health of the mother or even the first abortion) BUT with 44.7% of all abortions being done by women that have had one, two, three or more previous abortions??? Isn't that rather disgusting to continue that practice?

i fully support what you are saying..., but, the liberscum here will just continue to mock you.., they love killing babies.

When we're called libscum baby-killers, we know we've won the discussion.

ANY time that guy walks in you've won the discussion. Otherwise he won't show up.

 

[JoeB131]

[

What percentage of Abortions are performed when there is a Beating Heart?...

As for Socialism/Communism being the Remedy for Abortion... Let me know how that's working in the Former Soviet and China.

WHO/Europe | Facts and figures about abortion in the European Region

Europe's rates don't look bad, I will give you that...

But in America the MOST Liberal/Progressive pro-Universal Healthcare States have the Highest Abortion Rates:

Facts About Abortion: U.S. Abortion Statistics

•In 2011, the highest number of reported abortions occurred in California (181,730), New York (138,370) and Florida (84,990); the fewest occurred in Wyoming (120), South Dakota (600) and North Dakota (1,250) (AGI).

•The 2011 abortion rates by state ranged from a low of 3.8 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15-44 in Mississippi (Wyoming had too few abortions for reliable tabulation) to a high of 28.6 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15-44 in New York (AGI).

Our Conservative States make the EU's Abortion Rates look Horrific.

New York Dominates in Liberal Policies and Access to Healthcare/Women's Health etc and they have an Absurdly HIGH Abortion Rate.

Abortion happens WAY more in Liberal/Progressive States and in that the Cities like NY than they do in Conservative areas.

And even with all of the Baby Killing, the Rate of Dependency on the System to Single Mothers etc is still Dominately in those same areas.

Explain that to me.



peace...

I think the purpose of legalizing abortion was never to "reduce the welfare rolls".

It was because women were getting them illegally, and some of the operators were pretty dreadful.

now, all that said, CA, NY and FL have higher populations, so of course, they are going to have more abortions than Wyoming.

 

[healthmyths]

[

What percentage of Abortions are performed when there is a Beating Heart?...

As for Socialism/Communism being the Remedy for Abortion... Let me know how that's working in the Former Soviet and China.

WHO/Europe | Facts and figures about abortion in the European Region

Europe's rates don't look bad, I will give you that...

But in America the MOST Liberal/Progressive pro-Universal Healthcare States have the Highest Abortion Rates:

Facts About Abortion: U.S. Abortion Statistics

•In 2011, the highest number of reported abortions occurred in California (181,730), New York (138,370) and Florida (84,990); the fewest occurred in Wyoming (120), South Dakota (600) and North Dakota (1,250) (AGI).

•The 2011 abortion rates by state ranged from a low of 3.8 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15-44 in Mississippi (Wyoming had too few abortions for reliable tabulation) to a high of 28.6 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15-44 in New York (AGI).

Our Conservative States make the EU's Abortion Rates look Horrific.

New York Dominates in Liberal Policies and Access to Healthcare/Women's Health etc and they have an Absurdly HIGH Abortion Rate.

Abortion happens WAY more in Liberal/Progressive States and in that the Cities like NY than they do in Conservative areas.

And even with all of the Baby Killing, the Rate of Dependency on the System to Single Mothers etc is still Dominately in those same areas.

Explain that to me.



peace...

I think the purpose of legalizing abortion was never to "reduce the welfare rolls".

It was because women were getting them illegally, and some of the operators were pretty dreadful.

now, all that said, CA, NY and FL have higher populations, so of course, they are going to have more abortions than Wyoming.

As I've frequently said here... I am NOT against abortions in the case of rape,incest or health of the mother. Also the one time abortion OK...
What I don't understand is how we as a society can allow women to flagrantly and much like a drive through have 2,3, 4 or more abortions especially when
women with two or more abortions have a 114% shorter life span due to complications later on!

Just from a financial aspect these women should be warned the next abortion is accompanied by a tubal ligation... for their OWN health!
I don't think many of these women would ever refuse a tubal ligation when faced with information their lives are shortened each time they have an abortion!

FACTS.. having two or more abortions increase woman's death 114%..
Two studies of the entire population of women in Denmark published in 2012 have shown similar results.
The first found that the risk of death following abortion remains higher in each of the first ten years following the abortion.
The second found that the risk of death increases with each abortion,
45% after one abortion,
114% after two abortions, and
192% after three or more abortions.

According to the best record based study of deaths following pregnancy and abortion,
a 1997 government funded study in Finland, women who abort are approximately four times more likely to die in the following year than women who carry their pregnancies to term.
In addition, women who carry to term are only half as likely to die as women who were not pregnant.
Abortion Risks: A list of major physical complications related to abortion | After Abortion

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

If you believe that a fetus is a human being - then abortion is murder.
If a fetus is a human being, he or she is entitled to protection under our legal system. Having a uterus should not be a qualifying factor to hold a legal opinion.

That's like saying that a woman has no right to an opinion about legal cases that do not involve women. It's crazy.

Now, I am a Christian - but I am a Christian who is a firm believer in the separation of Church and State.

My opposition to abortion is based on a legal opinion that a fetus is entitled to protection under our legal systems. ........

Then maybe a fetus should also have the right to vote?

When you give a nonautonomous being the same rights as a viable, autonomous human being, you are opening up a bottomless pit of liabilities that a woman, who may not know she is even pregnant, can bear.

You are subjugating one human life for another. Except that one is conscious, independent from the womb, most likely at least 18 years old and the other is still an organism with no consciousness or bodily functions that would allow it to survive outside a floating sea of amniotic fluid. Choose carefully.

So why the effort to have a national health system, i.e. Obamacare?
Is the state responsible for my health?
Why must I give up to Obamacare my decisions about my health care... yet a woman who without conscience has multiple abortions so she can have sexual intercourse can
terminate life without any government interference?
MY healthcare is my business. Just as a woman's womb is her business!
By what right did the government take over my healthcare?

You can't have it both ways.
You are subjugating my say so over my life by forcing me to adopt Obamacare! It will cost me money if I don't want to participate. Again against my will my money is taken!

More importantly who do you think YOU ARE GOD when you pompously say a fetus has no consciousness? How in the hell do YOU KNOW?
Again... my thread is simple. Why are you so supportive of women who callously have multiple abortions? Why do you encourage that truly animalistic self gratification?
I have never said BAN abortions as you have said BAN guns!
I agree there are situations where it is necessary...BUT come ON!
You condone women who because of wonton sexual gratification have multiple abortions? How truly uncivilized to condone such primitive behavior!

I see you've leaped to fantastic conclusions about women and pregnancy and also managed to confuse yourself about what health care is, then trying to cover your dumb ass with fake indignation: "Obamacare@!".

And if you think fetuses are conscious, please tell us about some of your intra-womb experiences.

 

[Mac1958]

Her body is her body. But there's another body growing inside her body. That body requires her support, but it is not her. It won't stay with her for life, it won't share her name. It will receive its own identity. It's not her rights that are being fought over, but the rights of the new body being ignored. That's what the argument for abortion is.

Very well put, and this is where my fellow pro-choicers go right off the rails and into the land of straight up lying.

They will not admit the obvious -- that a fetus is human life with its own DNA, its own body parts, its own brain. They know that if they don't equate a fetus with a lump of coal or a brick, then they'll have to do some intellectual heavy lifting. And we can't have that. So they play their semantic games. Ugh.

I'd guess there would be significant support for abortions during the first two or three (maybe four) months of a pregnancy, and an agreement that sometimes societies have to make lousy, tough decisions like this. Neither end of this argument would be getting what they want, and in my estimation that's usually a pretty good sign.

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[C_Clayton_Jones]

To the group that think women who have had multiple abortions i.e. nearly 20 million abortions 1973 is OK because that's the women's right!
But they want guns that have killed one percent of the 54 million abortions banned.

Do you people that think women with multiple abortions is OK but guns should be banned.. do you understand why you look deranged?

I mean really.. you get all bent out of shape over guns that killed since 1973 1% of the total 54 million abortions but have no problem with abortions!
This really sounds like the German people denial of the deaths of 6 million Jews.

You supporters of abortions (again I have no problem for rape,incest or health of the mother or even the first abortion) BUT with 44.7% of all abortions being done by women that have had one, two, three or more previous abortions??? Isn't that rather disgusting to continue that practice?

i fully support what you are saying..., but, the liberscum here will just continue to mock you.., they love killing babies.

When we're called libscum baby-killers, we know we've won the discussion.

True.

It also illustrates the importance of privacy rights and the Constitutional case law that protects our rights from the hate and ignorance of social conservatives.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Her body is her body. But there's another body growing inside her body. That body requires her support, but it is not her. It won't stay with her for life, it won't share her name. It will receive its own identity. It's not her rights that are being fought over, but the rights of the new body being ignored. That's what the argument for abortion is.

Very well put, and this is where my fellow pro-choicers go right off the rails and into the land of straight up lying.

They will not admit the obvious -- that a fetus is human life with its own DNA, its own body parts, its own brain. They know that if they don't equate a fetus with a lump of coal or a brick, then they'll have to do some intellectual heavy lifting. And we can't have that. So they play their semantic games. Ugh.

I'd guess there would be significant support for abortions during the first two or three (maybe four) months of a pregnancy, and an agreement that sometimes societies have to make lousy, tough decisions like this. Neither end of this argument would be getting what they want, and in my estimation that's usually a pretty good sign.

.

Of course the embryo/fetus is human, but it’s not legally a person, entitled to 14th Amendment protections; as the Casey Court reaffirmed, that one’s rights manifest postnatally has been settled and accepted case law since the advent of the Republic.

This reflects the wisdom of the courts, of the doctrine of substantive due process, and of privacy rights jurisprudence: where the individual is allowed to decide when life begins himself, in accordance with his faith and in his own good conscience, free from interference by the state.

Consequently, both as a Constitutional and practical matter, to seek to ‘ban’ abortion not only violates the privacy rights of women so adversely effected, but it is in no way a ‘solution’ to the problem of abortion.

 

[ShawnChris13]

Her body is her body. But there's another body growing inside her body. That body requires her support, but it is not her. It won't stay with her for life, it won't share her name. It will receive its own identity. It's not her rights that are being fought over, but the rights of the new body being ignored. That's what the argument for abortion is.

Very well put, and this is where my fellow pro-choicers go right off the rails and into the land of straight up lying.



They will not admit the obvious -- that a fetus is human life with its own DNA, its own body parts, its own brain. They know that if they don't equate a fetus with a lump of coal or a brick, then they'll have to do some intellectual heavy lifting. And we can't have that. So they play their semantic games. Ugh.



I'd guess there would be significant support for abortions during the first two or three (maybe four) months of a pregnancy, and an agreement that sometimes societies have to make lousy, tough decisions like this. Neither end of this argument would be getting what they want, and in my estimation that's usually a pretty good sign.



.

Of course the embryo/fetus is human, but it’s not legally a person, entitled to 14th Amendment protections; as the Casey Court reaffirmed, that one’s rights manifest postnatally has been settled and accepted case law since the advent of the Republic.



This reflects the wisdom of the courts, of the doctrine of substantive due process, and of privacy rights jurisprudence: where the individual is allowed to decide when life begins himself, in accordance with his faith and in his own good conscience, free from interference by the state.



Consequently, both as a Constitutional and practical matter, to seek to ‘ban’ abortion not only violates the privacy rights of women so adversely effected, but it is in no way a ‘solution’ to the problem of abortion.

That we are all created equal. Not born equal or made equal by signing a birth certificate. Created equal is what we founded ourselves on. To turn from that is selfish and foolhardy at best. What o