What Happened to the "Epstein File"?

[Delldude]

I certify this piece of media has more useful intelligence in five minutes than that entire article had in its entirety.

Watched it. I didn't find anything I wasn't aware of or had come to similar conclusions about. Lot of speculation though.

 

[MisterBeale]

Lot of speculation though.

That happens when the STATE hides information that should be public.

Why the blanket immunity given to clients of Epstein in his first court case? I have not found that piece of information. . . very sus.

 

[konradv]

 

[Delldude]

That happens when the STATE hides information that should be public.

Why the blanket immunity given to clients of Epstein in his first court case? I have not found that piece of information. . . very sus.

I haven't followed Epstein's legal woes. Webb mentioned the this or that scenario's regarding releasing the so called list, but followed it up with 'unless there's some nefarious aspect to it'.

The 'list' reference came out of the Blackburn/Durbin dance in congress. First real noisy reference to it's existence. That turned out to be the flight log in reality, the same thing Bondi dumped in the so called phase one. If you believe Shoen and Dershowitz, Eps lawyers, they claim there wasn't a list, Eps wasn't like that.

I think it could come down to people expounding about the list as a campaign issue, people who hadn't had access to the list at anytime previously. Once in office, they find there isn't a list....Rut Ro. And I seriously doubt it was on Trump's radar during 45. He had lots of other issues to keep Him occupied back then.

To back this up, Bongino. I didn't follow him all the time, but I know from following him, he's big on backing up what he says. So there was all this hoopla over the list.....suddenly Bondi says there is no list. Bongino had a big fight with her over that revelation. That is interesting right there. That could go to his thing about his credibility on what he's said previously. I can't say for sure either, like anyone else can on anything regarding this.

So there could be a list or there couldn't be a list. If there actually is a list, one reason not to release it would be if it is part of an ongoing investigation. Everyone thinks this list is hiding poop on Trump.......for crying out loud, it He had anything remotely involving Himself with the island the dems would have had it out ages ago...........especially Durbin's resistance to releasing the flight log....Trump was on that seven times I think, all east coast destinations. Anyone thinks for a second, if Trump had His feet on the island, it wouldn't have been plastered all over the globe by now?

Another thing, Patel and Bongino don't have untethered access to everything at DOJ...they work for DOJ.

I didn't like their Epstein killed himself thing either. They both gave off reluctant vibes....could see it in their eyes. Whatever's up with that, I couldn't tell you.

Tying Trump somehow to the mafia.....Hell He was building real estate in the mob controlled city. No brainer He had connections. Mary Carter was interesting, I wasn't aware of that. Mob entertainment and hotels was mob laundering monies, Trump in real estate, again not a surprise.

So it's all speculation...........period.

 

[MisterBeale]

I agreed with all of your analysis except this part;

Everyone thinks this list is hiding poop on Trump.......for crying out loud, it He had anything remotely involving Himself with the island the dems would have had it out ages ago

The thing about this, is if it were a honey pot operation, it certainly would not be limited on a partisan basis, there would be dirt on lots of powerful people, both political and corporate, as well as cultural and scientific.

I would think that it would be hard to control the release of said information, without information coming out that was not wanted out. I would think it would seem too big a risky operation at a controlled release. Folks that have that information would need to weigh carefully the implications of such a move.



. . . another problem with the U.S. government possession of this material, is, might it be that there are materials in the hands of others? Nations, foreign intelligence, terrorists, hackers? Who knows?

I noticed that TWO DAYS before Trump was elected, this dropped from Michael Wolff;

Epstein Tapes: Trump Is "A Horrible Human Being"​

. . . a once close friend of Jeffrey. I suspect Wolff might have insider connections. . . just speculation.

Michael Wolff (journalist) - Wikipedia

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Who is Michael Wolff And Why Was He Let in White House

If you are alive on this spinning, chaotic ball of dirt in early 2018, you have no doubt heard of author Michael Wolff, or at least you've heard of his incendiary tell-all Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House. It's the only thing anyone has talked about for days. It's like Star Wars for...

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Jeffrey Epstein Dishes On Former 'Friend' Donald Trump In Unearthed Audio

Explosive recordings released by journalist Michael Wolff and The Daily Beast reveal Epstein's candid thoughts about his "charming" but "horrible" ex-friend.

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I find the timing of that drop suspicious. What other material does this Wolff character have?


. . . and then there is the WSJ Epstein Birthday Card piece. . the timing of that is equally suspicious. I read the piece, and no where in there did it explain how it got access to that material, or what other material the authors might have seen, and on whom, why?

https://archive.ph/h0lQh

". . . Maxwell collected letters from Trump and dozens of Epstein’s other associates for a 2003 birthday album, according to documents reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

Pages from the leather-bound album—assembled before Epstein was first arrested in 2006—are among the documents examined by Justice Department officials who investigated Epstein and Maxwell years ago, according to people who have reviewed the pages. It’s unclear if any of the pages are part of the Trump administration’s recent review. . . "

huh? When? Which people reviewed them, and when did they do the reviewing? Why is this just now being reported? How did the WSJ get access to this information? Who else sent Epstein birthday wishes and what did they write?

". . . On July 7, the Justice Department backtracked on Bondi’s pledge to release more Epstein files. The Justice Department said that after an “exhaustive review” it had found no “incriminating client list” or additional documents that warrant public disclosure.. . "

So the WSJ didn't just get access to these documents recently, wut?

Am I the only one that sees the timing of THIS story, also conveniently timed and manipulative to public discourse by both the timing, limited scope and obscure nature of where the information originated?

. . . and now this, just days ago. .




But here is the thing, no matter how hard I search, all I can find is that 30 seconds. I think we all want to watch the whole thing, right?

I believe me, I have looked everywhere. No place has it from what I can tell.




From my POV and analysis, the establishment seems to be doing everything it possibly can, to scare Trump into keeping all of this under wraps, (possibly to damage his political capital,) while also keeping the evidence on all criminals and global institutional corruption under wraps.


. . . I really am not sure what else to infer here.

 

[leftwinger]

Who remembers them?

What Clinton and the boys were after.

 

[Delldude]

Who remembers them?
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What Clinton and the boys were after.

And he married Hillary......

 

[Mack Brazile]

Basically, this has been my take on the so-called Epstein file.

Almost everything has already been made public.

The author was an AUSA for 22 years.

I highly recommend that you read the entire article at the link below.

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Maybe the better question is "What happened to the rest of the "Epstein File?"​

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Just about everything set forth herein is nothing more than “informed speculation.”​

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Some is objective factual information based on documents that have already been released for one purpose or another.​

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Some is objective factual information based on data that is regularly collected and retained in various government data bases as a routine matter.​

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A massive volume of records about Jeffrey Epstein have been released over the past decade or so. Numerous civil lawsuits involving hundreds of millions of dollars — and hundreds of victims —have been litigated and settled. Criminal prosecutions and trials, with the public release of some highly enlightening evidence, have been conducted both in the trial court and at the appellate level. Freedom of Information filings have been made and responded to — not always to the satisfaction of those seeking records, but in some measure information has made its way into the public arena.​

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The document from which the above screenshot was taken was the flight log of an Boeing 727, Tail No. N908JE, owned by Jeffrey Epstein and nicknamed the “Lolita Express.” Part of the flight logs were published by Gawker in 2015. Almost all the files were made part of the evidence in Gislaine Maxwell’s trial in 2021. As you can see, the flight log lists passengers on the flights. These are somewhat haphazard and I do not think there is any guarantee that they are meant to be 100% accurate. This one screen shot shows the names Bill Clinton, Ron Burkle, Ira Magaziner, and several others who are well known figures in business, entertainment, and/or politics. Some entries have only initials.​

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But — in its physical manifestation — what is the “Epstein Client List”?​

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Ghislaine Maxwell had a “little black book” that was marked and made an exhibit in her trial. Pages from the book were shown to the jury but not displayed publicly in the courtroom. In my opinion, her “little black book” is likely of no more use than the list of contacts in a smart phone. It only tells you the names that have been included by the user, but little else of substantive value. If you are trying to prove that the phone’s owner knew another person, having that person’s name in the contacts is circumstantial evidence of that fact. But it doesn’t tell you anything about what the two might have done together.​

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Similarly, the fact that someone was on Epstein’s plane to/from Little St. Martin tells you they flew to/from Little St. Martin. It tells you nothing about what happened there.​

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In my opinion, that is all an “Epstein Client List” is going to prove. The rest will be speculation and innuendo with a complete absence of evidence of anything illegal that happened while the listed individuals were there.​

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But the absence of any substantive evidence of criminal activity by well-known members of the supposed “elite” — given the millions and millions of dollars spent investigating and suing Epstein and his estate by both the government and private parties — is the “tell” that the “Epstein Client List” which the Conspiracy Theorists pound on the table and insist it must exist really is a figment of their over-active imaginations.​

What Happened to the "Epstein File"?

Maybe the better question is "What happened to the rest of the "Epstein File?"

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