What gospel did Jesus preach?

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Christians believe the gospel is about the life of a man named Jesus (who they think is 100% God and 100% man), his teachings, death and resurrection.

So what gospel did Jesus preach before he died and resurrected?

Mark 1
14: Now after John was arrested, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of God,
15: and saying, "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent, and believe in the gospel."

If Jesus was God, why did he say these things?


John 7
13: Yet for fear of the Jews no one spoke openly of him.
14: About the middle of the feast Jesus went up into the temple and taught.
15: The Jews marveled at it, saying, "How is it that this man has learning, when he has never studied?"
16: So Jesus answered them, "My teaching is not mine, but his who sent me;

John 6
63: It is the spirit that gives life, the flesh is of no avail; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.

Do you suppose the gospel Jesus was preaching was the "voice of God" where the Truth is heard by believers and even the dead?

dJohn 5:
25: "Truly, truly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live.
26: For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself,
27: and has given him authority to execute judgment, because he is the Son of man.
28: Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice.
37: And the Father who sent me has himself borne witness to me. His voice you have never heard, his form you have never seen;

Do you think the gospel is the voice of our Father, God, or is it the voice of a man named "Jesus" that the dead will hear?

Did the prophets hear the "voice of God" before Jesus was born into this world?[/COLOR]

How about the other saints? Did they preach the same gospel as Jesus did?

1 Thessolonians 1
4: For we know, brethren beloved by God, that he has chosen you;
5: for our gospel came to you not only in word, but also in power and in the Holy Spirit and with full conviction. You know what kind of men we proved to be among you for your sake.
6: And you became imitators of us and of the Lord, for you received the word in much affliction, with joy inspired by the Holy Spirit;

Ephesians 1
1: Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, To the saints who are also faithful in Christ Jesus:
2: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
3: Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places,
4: even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him.
5: He destined us in love to be his sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will,
9: For he has made known to us in all wisdom and insight the mystery of his will, according to his purpose which he set forth in Christ

Do you suppose all God's saints are witnesses of the invisible "Christ" and testified to this "Kingdom of God" that Jesus also testified to?

II Thesalonians 2:
13: But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God chose you from the beginning to be saved, through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth.
14: To this he called you through our gospel, so that you may obtain the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
 
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Hi theword:

Christians believe the gospel is about the life of a man named Jesus (who they think is 100% God and 100% man), his teachings, death and resurrection.


First of all, there are true Christians for whom Christ died and there are 'servants of righteousness' serving their 'angel of light' from 2Corinthians 11:14-15. Most professing Christians are deceived by the 'deluding influence' forced to 'believe what is false' (2Thes. 2:10-12), when in reality they serve 'the god of this world.' 1Cor. 4:5-6. The notion that Jesus is 100 percent God and 100 percent man is absolutely false, even though the majority hold onto that false doctrine with all of their deluded being. Scripture says:

Num 23:19 "God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man, that He should repent; Has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?​

Jesus Christ cannot possibly be God 'and' a mere man, if 'God is not a man.' Period. Jesus Christ proclaimed to be the 'Son of God.' John 1:34, Rev. 2:17. Either Jesus Christ is the Son of God, or he is a liar. Scripture says:

1 Tim 2:5 "For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus ..."​

The 'One God' is on the left with mere 'men' on the right and Christ Jesus (Son of God = 2Cor. 1:19) stands between God and men as the "One Mediator." Transforming the 'Son of God' into The Almighty makes Jesus Christ your 'idol' and removes the One God from the equation entirely, which is the device and delusion of Satan himself.

So what gospel did Jesus preach before he died and resurrected?

Jesus Christ preached the 'Gospel of the Kingdom' (Matt. 4:23, 9:35) that you cited from Mark 1:14-15 as the 'Gospel of God.' Satan's delusion says that Jesus Christ preached salvation by His death, burial and resurrection, even though Christ has died for nobody in Mark 1 and will not do so until the end of the Four Gospel accounts. Peter will continue preaching repentance and water baptism for the forgiveness of sins (Acts 2:38) even after God raised Jesus Christ from the dead. Our gospel for today was given to the Apostle Paul through 'a revelation of Jesus Christ' (Gal. 1:11-12) only after Paul's conversion in Acts 9. Misguided professing Christians combine the Gospel of the Kingdom and the Gospel of the Grace of God (Word of the Cross) into a false Gospel that God sent to nobody. I explain the differences between these two gospel messages and two NT churches here:

[ame=http://youtu.be/5id4JXTq21o]Two Gospels Of The New Testament - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://youtu.be/UVR3sXpAVQ8]Two Churches Of The New Testament - YouTube[/ame]

Do you suppose the gospel Jesus was preaching was the "voice of God" where the Truth is heard by believers and even the dead?

No. That would be impossible. Believers in our gospel are unbelievers right up to the moment that the hear and believe. Romans 10:17.

Eph 1:13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation--having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,
Eph 1:14 who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, with a view to the redemption of God's own possession, to the praise of His glory.​

We receive the Holy Spirit by 'hearing.' Gal. 3:2. God actually chooses us through the gospel. 2Thes. 2:13-14. The reference you make to John 5:25-27 concerns 'judgment' at the end of the age. By that time, the Kingdom Bride and Mystery Body of Christ will already be gathered together. Those being judged will find themselves led to an earthly/heavenly kingdom or thrown into the lake of fire.

Do you think the gospel is the voice of our Father, God, or is it the voice of a man named "Jesus" that the dead will hear?

First of all, there is no Hebrew or Aramaic term used in the OT that is translated into 'gospel' even once. There is no Hebrew or Aramaic term in the OT translated into the word 'faith' more than just once. Your query should address the Gospel of the Kingdom 'or' Paul's Word of the Cross gospel message. A gospel is a 'good news' message through which God calls people to become members of a particular dispensation/household. God speaks to us through His Living Word.

Did the prophets hear the "voice of God" before Jesus was born into this world?​

The right answer will find us bogged down over semantics. The problem is that Jesus Christ is the "Lord God" of the OT with a 'God' (Isa. 9:6, Heb. 1:8) relationship with Israel of the flesh. God speaks to Israel through the Lord God in a similar way that we have access to God through Jesus Christ today as our One Mediator. Here is an example of God speaking to Israel through the Lord God:

Deut 5:24 "You said, 'Behold, the LORD our God has shown us His glory and His greatness, and we have heard His voice from the midst of the fire; we have seen today that God speaks with man, yet he lives.

Everything begins making more sense once you realize that the Lord God of the OT is the Lord of the Sabbath (Matt. 12:8) and that God rested (Gen. 2:1-3) 'in' Him. 2Cor. 5:19.

How about the other saints? Did they preach the same gospel as Jesus did?

Saints are 'holy ones,' but there are saints that belong to various dispensations including Israel of the flesh, the Messianic Kingdom Bride and the Mystery Body of Christ to whom the Scriptures were written. Jesus preached the same 'Gospel of the Kingdom' of John the Baptist and His disciples. Our gospel for today was given through the Apostle Paul and never preached by Jesus Christ in His earthly ministry. The 'eternal gospel' is preached at the end of the age (Rev. 14:6) for gathering members to heaven.

Do you suppose all God's saints are witnesses of the invisible "Christ" and testified to this "Kingdom of God" that Jesus also testified to?​

No. Again, there are OT saints, Kingdom Bride saints like Peter and John and Mystery Body of Christ saints like those obeying our gospel for today. Remember that Christ taught a Kingdom of God 'on earth AS IT IS' in heaven. Matt. 6:10. However, Christ's Body is headed for 'His Heavenly Kingdom.' 2Tim. 4:18.

In Christ Jesus,

Terral
 
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Hi theword:

Christians believe the gospel is about the life of a man named Jesus (who they think is 100% God and 100% man), his teachings, death and resurrection.


First of all, there are true Christians for whom Christ died and there are 'servants of righteousness' serving their 'angel of light' from 2Corinthians 11:14-15. Most professing Christians are deceived by the 'deluding influence' forced to 'believe what is false' (2Thes. 2:10-12), when in reality they serve 'the god of this world.' 1Cor. 4:5-6. The notion that Jesus is 100 percent God and 100 percent man is absolutely false, even though the majority hold onto that false doctrine with all of their deluded being. Scripture says:

Num 23:19 "God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man, that He should repent; Has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?​

Jesus Christ cannot possibly be God 'and' a mere man, if 'God is not a man.' Period. Jesus Christ proclaimed to be the 'Son of God.' John 1:34, Rev. 2:17. Either Jesus Christ is the Son of God, or he is a liar. Scripture says:

1 Tim 2:5 "For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus ..."​

The 'One God' is on the left with mere 'men' on the right and Christ Jesus (Son of God = 2Cor. 1:19) stands between God and men as the "One Mediator." Transforming the 'Son of God' into The Almighty makes Jesus Christ your 'idol' and removes the One God from the equation entirely, which is the device and delusion of Satan himself.

So what gospel did Jesus preach before he died and resurrected?

Jesus Christ preached the 'Gospel of the Kingdom' (Matt. 4:23, 9:35) that you cited from Mark 1:14-15 as the 'Gospel of God.' Satan's delusion says that Jesus Christ preached salvation by His death, burial and resurrection, even though Christ has died for nobody in Mark 1 and will not do so until the end of the Four Gospel accounts. Peter will continue preaching repentance and water baptism for the forgiveness of sins (Acts 2:38) even after God raised Jesus Christ from the dead. Our gospel for today was given to the Apostle Paul through 'a revelation of Jesus Christ' (Gal. 1:11-12) only after Paul's conversion in Acts 9. Misguided professing Christians combine the Gospel of the Kingdom and the Gospel of the Grace of God (Word of the Cross) into a false Gospel that God sent to nobody. I explain the differences between these two gospel messages and two NT churches here:

[ame=http://youtu.be/5id4JXTq21o]Two Gospels Of The New Testament - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://youtu.be/UVR3sXpAVQ8]Two Churches Of The New Testament - YouTube[/ame]



No. That would be impossible. Believers in our gospel are unbelievers right up to the moment that the hear and believe. Romans 10:17.

Eph 1:13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation--having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,
Eph 1:14 who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, with a view to the redemption of God's own possession, to the praise of His glory.​

We receive the Holy Spirit by 'hearing.' Gal. 3:2. God actually chooses us through the gospel. 2Thes. 2:13-14. The reference you make to John 5:25-27 concerns 'judgment' at the end of the age. By that time, the Kingdom Bride and Mystery Body of Christ will already be gathered together. Those being judged will find themselves led to an earthly/heavenly kingdom or thrown into the lake of fire.

Do you think the gospel is the voice of our Father, God, or is it the voice of a man named "Jesus" that the dead will hear?

First of all, there is no Hebrew or Aramaic term used in the OT that is translated into 'gospel' even once. There is no Hebrew or Aramaic term in the OT translated into the word 'faith' more than just once. Your query should address the Gospel of the Kingdom 'or' Paul's Word of the Cross gospel message. A gospel is a 'good news' message through which God calls people to become members of a particular dispensation/household. God speaks to us through His Living Word.

Did the prophets hear the "voice of God" before Jesus was born into this world?​

The right answer will find us bogged down over semantics. The problem is that Jesus Christ is the "Lord God" of the OT with a 'God' (Isa. 9:6, Heb. 1:8) relationship with Israel of the flesh. God speaks to Israel through the Lord God in a similar way that we have access to God through Jesus Christ today as our One Mediator. Here is an example of God speaking to Israel through the Lord God:

Deut 5:24 "You said, 'Behold, the LORD our God has shown us His glory and His greatness, and we have heard His voice from the midst of the fire; we have seen today that God speaks with man, yet he lives.

Everything begins making more sense once you realize that the Lord God of the OT is the Lord of the Sabbath (Matt. 12:8) and that God rested (Gen. 2:1-3) 'in' Him. 2Cor. 5:19.

How about the other saints? Did they preach the same gospel as Jesus did?

Saints are 'holy ones,' but there are saints that belong to various dispensations including Israel of the flesh, the Messianic Kingdom Bride and the Mystery Body of Christ to whom the Scriptures were written. Jesus preached the same 'Gospel of the Kingdom' of John the Baptist and His disciples. Our gospel for today was given through the Apostle Paul and never preached by Jesus Christ in His earthly ministry. The 'eternal gospel' is preached at the end of the age (Rev. 14:6) for gathering members to heaven.

Do you suppose all God's saints are witnesses of the invisible "Christ" and testified to this "Kingdom of God" that Jesus also testified to?​

No. Again, there are OT saints, Kingdom Bride saints like Peter and John and Mystery Body of Christ saints like those obeying our gospel for today. Remember that Christ taught a Kingdom of God 'on earth AS IT IS' in heaven. Matt. 6:10. However, Christ's Body is headed for 'His Heavenly Kingdom.' 2Tim. 4:18.

In Christ Jesus,

Terral


Only listeners of the gospel are true believers. You failed to listen.
 
HE didn't teach the gospel Big Religion is teaching today.

In fact, modern day Christianity lost Christ a long time ago.

The religious Roman leaders made sure of that because after killing all the true saints who witnessed "Christ" and testified to it, they started the false religion of Christianity to make sure their Christians would never become saints.
 
The religious Roman leaders made sure of that because after killing all the true saints who witnessed "Christ" and testified to it, they started the false religion of Christianity to make sure their Christians would never become saints.
The religion didn't become false until it merged with big business, which, in turn, merged with big government.
 
The religious Roman leaders made sure of that because after killing all the true saints who witnessed "Christ" and testified to it, they started the false religion of Christianity to make sure their Christians would never become saints.
The religion didn't become false until it merged with big business, which, in turn, merged with big government.

All religions came out of the beast, even Judaism. The beast is God's plan to deceive men from the Truth but at the same time, He taught men how to build things until He got His latest technoloty in place to observe His infinite nature. Now we know that energy is information (God's stored thoughts). This is the Heavenly Kingdom that Jesus and all the rest of us saints speak from. From this information, the prophecies can be interpreted as we testify to it by writing or speaking. We learn that all religion was planned by our Creator to deceive man while He uses this deception to draw out us servants in the flesh of prophets and saints.

Read Daniel 2: 36-45. The feet of iron and clay represents Christianity that came out of the fourth kingdom called the Roman Empire, which is represented as the iron legs of the beast that Daniel interpreted from King Nebuchanezzar's dreams. It was our Creator who put that dream into the mind of the King so that His prophet, Daniel, could receive it. Although, it is God who interprets the prophecies, not the flesh of his servant.
 
How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

Since there's no such thing as angels, there's no need for the head of a pin in the next age. But we'll all be dancing with joy forever and ever.
 
We learn that all religion was planned by our Creator to deceive man while He uses this deception to draw out us servants in the flesh of prophets and saints.

Read Daniel 2: 36-45.


all religion was planned by our Creator to deceive man - Read Daniel 2: 36-45.



one (a saint) should not be bound by a false doctrine, theword entwines itself with repeatedly - or call to others to follow its folly.


reading should be for enlightenment ...
 
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All religions came out of the beast, even Judaism. The beast is God's plan to deceive men from the Truth but at the same time, He taught men how to build things until He got His latest technoloty in place to observe His infinite nature. Now we know that energy is information (God's stored thoughts). This is the Heavenly Kingdom that Jesus and all the rest of us saints speak from. From this information, the prophecies can be interpreted as we testify to it by writing or speaking. We learn that all religion was planned by our Creator to deceive man while He uses this deception to draw out us servants in the flesh of prophets and saints.

Read Daniel 2: 36-45. The feet of iron and clay represents Christianity that came out of the fourth kingdom called the Roman Empire, which is represented as the iron legs of the beast that Daniel interpreted from King Nebuchanezzar's dreams. It was our Creator who put that dream into the mind of the King so that His prophet, Daniel, could receive it. Although, it is God who interprets the prophecies, not the flesh of his servant.

All Religion was planned to decieve man?

Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. (James 1:27)

The scriptures seem to indicate that religion was planned to take care of the widow and the fatherless.
 
We learn that all religion was planned by our Creator to deceive man while He uses this deception to draw out us servants in the flesh of prophets and saints.

Read Daniel 2: 36-45.


all religion was planned by our Creator to deceive man - Read Daniel 2: 36-45.



one (a saint) should not be bound by a false doctrine, theword entwines itself with repeatedly - or call to others to follow its folly.


reading should be for enlightenment ...

Reading the original writings of a saint can enlighten a believer somewhat but writings can't rebuke the thoughts in a reader's mind like a saint can to keep the reader (believer) listening to the Truth rather than their own deceptive thoughts.

A saint can't preach a false gospel like all Christian leaders do.
 
All religions came out of the beast, even Judaism. The beast is God's plan to deceive men from the Truth but at the same time, He taught men how to build things until He got His latest technoloty in place to observe His infinite nature. Now we know that energy is information (God's stored thoughts). This is the Heavenly Kingdom that Jesus and all the rest of us saints speak from. From this information, the prophecies can be interpreted as we testify to it by writing or speaking. We learn that all religion was planned by our Creator to deceive man while He uses this deception to draw out us servants in the flesh of prophets and saints.

Read Daniel 2: 36-45. The feet of iron and clay represents Christianity that came out of the fourth kingdom called the Roman Empire, which is represented as the iron legs of the beast that Daniel interpreted from King Nebuchanezzar's dreams. It was our Creator who put that dream into the mind of the King so that His prophet, Daniel, could receive it. Although, it is God who interprets the prophecies, not the flesh of his servant.

All Religion was planned to decieve man?

Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. (James 1:27)

The scriptures seem to indicate that religion was planned to take care of the widow and the fatherless.

While the religious ones take care of the dead, we saints take care of the living.
 
All religions came out of the beast, even Judaism. The beast is God's plan to deceive men from the Truth but at the same time, He taught men how to build things until He got His latest technoloty in place to observe His infinite nature. Now we know that energy is information (God's stored thoughts). This is the Heavenly Kingdom that Jesus and all the rest of us saints speak from. From this information, the prophecies can be interpreted as we testify to it by writing or speaking. We learn that all religion was planned by our Creator to deceive man while He uses this deception to draw out us servants in the flesh of prophets and saints.

Read Daniel 2: 36-45. The feet of iron and clay represents Christianity that came out of the fourth kingdom called the Roman Empire, which is represented as the iron legs of the beast that Daniel interpreted from King Nebuchanezzar's dreams. It was our Creator who put that dream into the mind of the King so that His prophet, Daniel, could receive it. Although, it is God who interprets the prophecies, not the flesh of his servant.

All Religion was planned to decieve man?

Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. (James 1:27)

The scriptures seem to indicate that religion was planned to take care of the widow and the fatherless.

While the religious ones take care of the dead, we saints take care of the living.

So the widows and fatherless are dead?
 
All Religion was planned to decieve man?



The scriptures seem to indicate that religion was planned to take care of the widow and the fatherless.

While the religious ones take care of the dead, we saints take care of the living.

So the widows and fatherless are dead?

Yes, all flesh will die in this age. My flesh has already died to the desires of this world because of God's will for me to witness Christ and testify to His salvation plan for all His people.

The dead don't understand the living that we saints know all about. Once your flesh dies, then you'll understand the living.
 
We learn that all religion was planned by our Creator to deceive man while He uses this deception to draw out us servants in the flesh of prophets and saints.

Read Daniel 2: 36-45.


all religion was planned by our Creator to deceive man - Read Daniel 2: 36-45.



one (a saint) should not be bound by a false doctrine, theword entwines itself with repeatedly - or call to others to follow its folly.


reading should be for enlightenment ...

Reading the original writings of a saint can enlighten a believer somewhat but writings can't rebuke the thoughts in a reader's mind like a saint can to keep the reader (believer) listening to the Truth rather than their own deceptive thoughts.

A saint can't preach a false gospel like all Christian leaders do.



there is no such thing as Preaching ...


the meek shall inherit the Earth.

only a Spirits own thoughts will be judged ... sink or swim


Remission may be accomplished by an Individual - but it is the Task, for all to be saved or none at all.
 
I always thought the sermon on the mount, casual conversations with Jesus, plus the numerous parables found in the books of the Gospels(Luke especially comes to mind) was the gospel Jesus preached

Or at least what the authors claim to be Jesus gospel. I have yet to determine if these words were truly their teachers words, the disciples own words placed into their teachers mouth, or words taken from other sources.
 
all religion was planned by our Creator to deceive man - Read Daniel 2: 36-45.



one (a saint) should not be bound by a false doctrine, theword entwines itself with repeatedly - or call to others to follow its folly.


reading should be for enlightenment ...

Reading the original writings of a saint can enlighten a believer somewhat but writings can't rebuke the thoughts in a reader's mind like a saint can to keep the reader (believer) listening to the Truth rather than their own deceptive thoughts.

A saint can't preach a false gospel like all Christian leaders do.



there is no such thing as Preaching ...


the meek shall inherit the Earth.

only a Spirits own thoughts will be judged ... sink or swim


Remission may be accomplished by an Individual - but it is the Task, for all to be saved or none at all.

Liars don't understand what a saint of God is unless they're chosen to believe the gospel we preach, which only means the spoken and written words that God gives us in our mind to speak or write down. The gospel is the same thing as the "voice of God".
 
I always thought the sermon on the mount, casual conversations with Jesus, plus the numerous parables found in the books of the Gospels(Luke especially comes to mind) was the gospel Jesus preached

Or at least what the authors claim to be Jesus gospel. I have yet to determine if these words were truly their teachers words, the disciples own words placed into their teachers mouth, or words taken from other sources.

The original writings of the saints do not make up the new testament. These original writings were confiscated by the Romans as they arrested the saints for preaching the gospel. The Romans had a law against any saint preaching the gospel because of the jealous Jews who forced them to make these laws and have the saints killed for breaking them.

Many years after the Roman religious leaders started their false religion of Christianity, they produced the new testament that contain all their religious ideas mixed with a few writings of the saints. This new testament was added to old testament propheces and called the Bible. So this Bible contains religious lies that have deceived every Christian that ever lived.

I was made a saint on June 16, 2008, and this is the "born again" experience that all the saints witnessed. This is when our sinful nature (veil) is removed from our flesh so that the knowledge of God (Christ) is revealed through us. As soon as this happens, God has us start writing words He gives us in our own native language so that we learn all about this invisible knowledge (Christ) that no man will ever see.

From this knowledge, we learn all about what happened during this age and how we'll live in the next age. We also learn how we're created and that all flesh dies in this age before we go on to Eternal Life.

Religion, with it's religious ideas, came out of the "beast", which is God's plan to deceive man from the Truth but at the same time, teach men how to build the things he created within His thoughts to use for teaching us saints how He created us. By having men build the microscopes and telescopes, He was able to teach us His infinite nature, which is His thoughts stored as energy.

Now that we know how we're created, God will end this age soon.
 

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