What does a Biden/Harris win mean?

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Oh, yes, under the leadership of the Honorable Joseph R. Biden, Jr., & the Honorable Kamala Harris, they (especially the latter) will work very hard and with great pride to change the whole United States into Portland, Seattle, Chicago, Los Angeles, New York, Minneapolis, etc. writ large.

Assuming that Mr. Biden will serve four years and that Ms. Harris will serve eight years (unless the Constitution is changed to let her serve longer), those two very distinguished public servants will be able to really move this country forward to Utopia.

Think I am going to puke!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It means higher taxes which I am barely even making a living right now my boyfriend is still out of work and I am stressed out constantly. So now I gotta worry even more.

Try being unemployed and living off your savings that are quickly dwindling away.

Who is unemployed right now? Restaurant workers for the most part! Name anyone else affected by COVID and that is where your unemployment come from. The unemployed are minimum wage or service related industries, like hotels.

 

[Michelle420]

It means higher taxes which I am barely even making a living right now my boyfriend is still out of work and I am stressed out constantly. So now I gotta worry even more.

Try being unemployed and living off your savings that are quickly dwindling away.

Who is unemployed right now? Restaurant workers for the most part! Name anyone else affected by COVID and that is where your unemployment come from. The unemployed are minimum wage or service related industries, like hotels.

Yeah and touring companies. Are you somehow upset that people are laid off from min wage jobs? You keep bringing that up as some inferred insult. I work for a finance company but my boyfriend's touring company is shut down right now and it is financially stressful. At any rate, it should not bother you either way since it is not your situation apparently.

 

[Mac1958]

I long for boring

I belief this is one of the primary reasons people would not vote for Trump. They are just plain tired of all the Trump craziness, hate, and lies like calling for the counting to stop on election night, undermining the election process with constant claims of election fraud with no evidence, pushing a disinfectant as a cure for Covid, meeting with foreign heads of states just for photo opps, calling the worst epidemic to hit the country in a hundred years just the flu, trading American military support for dirt on your political opponent, etc, etc...... Eventfully, people get tired of the Trump 3 ring circus and just want a president that acts like a president instead of a side show barker selling snake oil.

One of the funnier parts of this whole circus is the fact that Joe Biden is clearly, easily one of the more benign characters running around DC, and the Trumpsters have been trying to make him look like Mao.

I know these folks are consumed by their information ecosystem's paranoia, but this cracks me up.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Even with a GOP senate a Biden win means that all of Trump's Executive Orders can be reversed, and the Trade Deals undone, and climate change policies punishing US Energy implemented. OPEN BORDERS HERE WE COME!!

Open borders, tear down the southern border fence/wall
Free college
Eliminate ICE and DHS, turn the US into the EU
Promote Globalism, whatever Wall Street wants Wall Street gets, see K-Street Cash
Paris Climate Change Treaty where the US pays $trillions to poor countries
Stupid trade agreements
Let China run roughshod over the US for trade and intellectual property theft
No new pipelines and no offshore drilling
Use the Federal Government to punish conservatives, like the IRS and Lois Lerner hounded conservatives
Use the Intel community to spy on the opposition party, like Hillary, FusionGPS, and the FBI/DOJ spied on Trump
Impose gun control, outlaw private gun sales, outlaw AR style rifles, restrict sales of bullets, etc.
"Green New Deal" Impose a "carbon tax" to punish anyone who works, heats their home, flies, or has a car
Anti-business democrat socialists caused Amazon to flee NYC taking 25,000 good paying jobs to VA
Trannys back in the military
Increase domestic surveillance, especially on "white supremacist" organizations
Full welfare and free healthcare for illegal immigrants
Eliminate the "cash bail system" whereby all criminals walk out after committing a crime.
Defund police departments

It means no 2;00 AM tweeting, a president that does not deny science, a president that believes facts are important, and a president that doesn't run the country based on impulse, gut feel, and conspiracy theories.

In other words, it's going to be pretty dull around here on USMB. We are so use to Trump's daily tweets. I get up each morning wondering who Trump is attacking today. Has he declared himself emperor? Are we at war with Canada? Which city has federal troops? Does he have a new cure for Covid? Who has he fired today?

If Biden wins, I predict he will be the dullest president in recent history doing what we expect president's to do.

No, we will have a president incapable of operating a cell phone, believes all the hoaxes, disavows any and all facts, and has full-blown dementia and no grasp on reality most of the time. That's Joe Biden in a nutshell.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

It means we can begin to rebuild the mess that Trump has made.

It means we can begin to heal the division he has caused

1. What mess did Trump make?
2. Paybacks are a bitch, the democrats won't be able to do anything since the GOP owns the senate, enjoy renaming post offices like Obama's last 6-years.

The GOP Senate MAY act like the obstructionists they were throughout the Obama Presidency...but people are noticing and there will be consequences

We will see as Democrats didn’t really act professionally during the Trump presidency. Impeachment, constant Russia conspiracy theories, calling him a racist, trashing his SCOTUS nominees, ignoring the burning, looting and rioting. Now they want unity. It will be very interesting. I do Agree that we need unity and I am willing to give Biden a chance to see if he can deliver on that message. He said he will be the President for all Americans. Let’s see if that is true.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I long for boring

I belief this is one of the primary reasons people would not vote for Trump. They are just plain tired of all the Trump craziness, hate, and lies like calling for the counting to stop on election night, undermining the election process with constant claims of election fraud with no evidence, pushing a disinfectant as a cure for Covid, meeting with foreign heads of states just for photo opps, calling the worst epidemic to hit the country in a hundred years just the flu, trading American military support for dirt on your political opponent, etc, etc...... Eventfully, people get tired of the Trump 3 ring circus and just want a president that acts like a president instead of a side show barker selling snake oil.

One of the funnier parts of this whole circus is the fact that Joe Biden is clearly, easily one of the more benign characters running around DC, and the Trumpsters have been trying to make him look like Mao.

I know these folks are consumed by their information ecosystem's paranoia, but this cracks me up.

No. People are worried that because he is so benign that Sanders, Harris, Warren and the Squad will bully him. Do you ever post anything honest?

 

[Michelle420]

I long for boring

I belief this is one of the primary reasons people would not vote for Trump. They are just plain tired of all the Trump craziness, hate, and lies like calling for the counting to stop on election night, undermining the election process with constant claims of election fraud with no evidence, pushing a disinfectant as a cure for Covid, meeting with foreign heads of states just for photo opps, calling the worst epidemic to hit the country in a hundred years just the flu, trading American military support for dirt on your political opponent, etc, etc...... Eventfully, people get tired of the Trump 3 ring circus and just want a president that acts like a president instead of a side show barker selling snake oil.

There is a lot of truth in your statement.

What the American people should be more concerned about is the absences of safeguards to prevent one person from doing all of the above. Its true you can't stop someone from calling an once in a hundred year virus a "flu" and you can't stop someone from making silly, baseless claims. That is just someone offering their opinion. And we can talk about if we want our Presidents to be smart or stupid...I imagine there are many who prefer the President be more "like them" and not be bookish or academic. But we can do things to stop trading military support for dirt on a political opponent, we can do things to stop the "rule of the week" in the Senate and House that disallows consideration of bills that are politically embarrassing, we can do things to prevent the Senate from shelving all nominations for the Federal bench. We can stop the dangling of pardons in return for committing felonies on the behalf of the President.

This is why I'll never join the Democratic Party. None of this will be seriously considered. Why? Because Biden has apparently got to 270 and can take advantage of the loopholes that our founding fathers put in because they offered flexibility and they presumed nobody would take advantage of them.

Trump is not a typical president by any measure. There hasn't been anyone even close in the last hundred years so I'm not concerned about another Trump popping up anytime soon. What concerns me is the very ridged ideology of the two parties and their power to control the houses of congress. They have effective stamped out the formation of cross-party coalitions in order to pass legislation. Once coalitions of democrats and republicans got legislation passed where neither party could. The idea of republicans and democrats doing anything together is almost unheard of today. However, that can change.

What is needed is baby steps toward working together. Massive tax, healthcare, immigration, climate, or infrastructure reform is not the answer because it can't pass without one party control of congress and the presidency which seems unlikely during Biden's first two years. What is need is smaller pieces of highly focused legislation that both parties can agree on. When Biden was VP and a Senator with a divided congress he approached the opposing party looking for what can we can agree on. Obama had trouble doing that. He always thought big. Biden is a negotiator. If he can negotiate small needed changes in many areas, he will have brought the parties a bit closer together. Although the two parties will never agree on many major issues, they can still work of some things. The more the parties are able to work together, the better for all.

Well, I agree with the fundamental thoughts you shared in this post. You must be a very nice person offline. Your post was very thoughtful to all sides of political points. I was a Democrat who left the party I voted for Jill Stein in 2016 and Trump 2020.

Since I left I have been attacked by many Democrats and it has been very eye-opening. I used to virtue signal as if Dems were so much better than Repubs. I always saw Repubs as hateful bitter people. But when Trump came along, I got treated much worse by Democrats than I ever had been treated by Republicans.

I am registered unaffiliated. But yeah I agree with most of your points, but the party of tolerance certainly doesn't want to bend in any way and the trump supporters are pretty much sick of those political games from both sides.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It means higher taxes which I am barely even making a living right now my boyfriend is still out of work and I am stressed out constantly. So now I gotta worry even more.

Try being unemployed and living off your savings that are quickly dwindling away.

Who is unemployed right now? Restaurant workers for the most part! Name anyone else affected by COVID and that is where your unemployment come from. The unemployed are minimum wage or service related industries, like hotels.

Yeah and touring companies. Are you somehow upset that people are laid off from min wage jobs? You keep bringing that up as some inferred insult. I work for a finance company but my boyfriend's touring company is shut down right now and it is financially stressful. At any rate, it should not bother you either way since it is not your situation apparently.

Maybe he should look in the other industries that are hiring and stop bitching! Everywhere I go, I see 'Help Wanted" signs and tons of ads even on the radio for manufacturing companies looking for workers.

 

[Chuz Life]

It means higher taxes which I am barely even making a living right now my boyfriend is still out of work and I am stressed out constantly. So now I gotta worry even more.

Try being unemployed and living off your savings that are quickly dwindling away.

Who is unemployed right now? Restaurant workers for the most part! Name anyone else affected by COVID and that is where your unemployment come from. The unemployed are minimum wage or service related industries, like hotels.

I am unemployed right now, myself.

Try rereading my post with that in mind.

See the context?

 

[Michelle420]

It means higher taxes which I am barely even making a living right now my boyfriend is still out of work and I am stressed out constantly. So now I gotta worry even more.

Try being unemployed and living off your savings that are quickly dwindling away.

Who is unemployed right now? Restaurant workers for the most part! Name anyone else affected by COVID and that is where your unemployment come from. The unemployed are minimum wage or service related industries, like hotels.

Yeah and touring companies. Are you somehow upset that people are laid off from min wage jobs? You keep bringing that up as some inferred insult. I work for a finance company but my boyfriend's touring company is shut down right now and it is financially stressful. At any rate, it should not bother you either way since it is not your situation apparently.

Maybe he should look in the other industries that are hiring and stop bitching! Everywhere I go, I see 'Help Wanted" signs and tons of ads even on the radio for manufacturing companies looking for workers.

He is not on this board and he is not bitching. This a discussion board and giving an opinion when asked a question on a post is normal. You seem very angry. Maybe you should take up some weed smoking.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

It means higher taxes which I am barely even making a living right now my boyfriend is still out of work and I am stressed out constantly. So now I gotta worry even more.

Try being unemployed and living off your savings that are quickly dwindling away.

Who is unemployed right now? Restaurant workers for the most part! Name anyone else affected by COVID and that is where your unemployment come from. The unemployed are minimum wage or service related industries, like hotels.

I am unemployed right now, myself.

Try rereading my post with that in mind.

See the context?

My clients have laid off or furloughed on average 20% of their workforce. Only one is in the restaurant industry.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It means China wins. More fleecing of American jobs to China. More stupid wars. It also likely means the economy will crash, especially when he mandates tighter lockdowns.

China has been winning. The trump tariffs a huge failure. They also seem to be bouncing back from this pandemic a whole lot faster...

How are the tariffs a failure? You really should stop talking out your ass. It cause hemorrhoids.

 

[Chuz Life]

It means higher taxes which I am barely even making a living right now my boyfriend is still out of work and I am stressed out constantly. So now I gotta worry even more.

Try being unemployed and living off your savings that are quickly dwindling away.

Who is unemployed right now? Restaurant workers for the most part! Name anyone else affected by COVID and that is where your unemployment come from. The unemployed are minimum wage or service related industries, like hotels.

I am unemployed right now, myself.

Try rereading my post with that in mind.

See the context?

My clients have laid off or furloughed on average 20% of their workforce. Only one is in the restaurant industry.

Our medical manufacturing company offered buyouts to those who qualified and furloughs to the rest. If they couldn't drop the payroll enough, layoffs were next.

I barely qualified for a buyout and I took it to help me move (hopefully) to another State.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It means higher taxes which I am barely even making a living right now my boyfriend is still out of work and I am stressed out constantly. So now I gotta worry even more.

Try being unemployed and living off your savings that are quickly dwindling away.

Who is unemployed right now? Restaurant workers for the most part! Name anyone else affected by COVID and that is where your unemployment come from. The unemployed are minimum wage or service related industries, like hotels.

Yeah and touring companies. Are you somehow upset that people are laid off from min wage jobs? You keep bringing that up as some inferred insult. I work for a finance company but my boyfriend's touring company is shut down right now and it is financially stressful. At any rate, it should not bother you either way since it is not your situation apparently.

Maybe he should look in the other industries that are hiring and stop bitching! Everywhere I go, I see 'Help Wanted" signs and tons of ads even on the radio for manufacturing companies looking for workers.

He is not on this board and he is not bitching. This a discussion board and giving an opinion when asked a question on a post is normal. You seem very angry. Maybe you should take up some weed smoking.

I am angry because your boyfriend not may be bitching, but YOU appear to be. Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one and they all stink. You need to grow up, and tell your boyfriend to get out and get a real job. My company has had problems hiring people because we cannot train them online to do the job. I can't get our work done because I am down to about 10 employees, when I started with 16.

 

[jackflash]

Even with a GOP senate a Biden win means that all of Trump's Executive Orders can be reversed, and the Trade Deals undone, and climate change policies punishing US Energy implemented. OPEN BORDERS HERE WE COME!!

Open borders, tear down the southern border fence/wall
Free college
Eliminate ICE and DHS, turn the US into the EU
Promote Globalism, whatever Wall Street wants Wall Street gets, see K-Street Cash
Paris Climate Change Treaty where the US pays $trillions to poor countries
Stupid trade agreements
Let China run roughshod over the US for trade and intellectual property theft
No new pipelines and no offshore drilling
Use the Federal Government to punish conservatives, like the IRS and Lois Lerner hounded conservatives
Use the Intel community to spy on the opposition party, like Hillary, FusionGPS, and the FBI/DOJ spied on Trump
Impose gun control, outlaw private gun sales, outlaw AR style rifles, restrict sales of bullets, etc.
"Green New Deal" Impose a "carbon tax" to punish anyone who works, heats their home, flies, or has a car
Anti-business democrat socialists caused Amazon to flee NYC taking 25,000 good paying jobs to VA
Trannys back in the military
Increase domestic surveillance, especially on "white supremacist" organizations
Full welfare and free healthcare for illegal immigrants
Eliminate the "cash bail system" whereby all criminals walk out after committing a crime.
Defund police departments

A Biden/Harris win means America losses. "Simple my dear Watson"!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It means higher taxes which I am barely even making a living right now my boyfriend is still out of work and I am stressed out constantly. So now I gotta worry even more.

Try being unemployed and living off your savings that are quickly dwindling away.

Who is unemployed right now? Restaurant workers for the most part! Name anyone else affected by COVID and that is where your unemployment come from. The unemployed are minimum wage or service related industries, like hotels.

I am unemployed right now, myself.

Try rereading my post with that in mind.

See the context?

My clients have laid off or furloughed on average 20% of their workforce. Only one is in the restaurant industry.

Why? What industries?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It means higher taxes which I am barely even making a living right now my boyfriend is still out of work and I am stressed out constantly. So now I gotta worry even more.

Try being unemployed and living off your savings that are quickly dwindling away.

Who is unemployed right now? Restaurant workers for the most part! Name anyone else affected by COVID and that is where your unemployment come from. The unemployed are minimum wage or service related industries, like hotels.

I am unemployed right now, myself.

Try rereading my post with that in mind.

See the context?

Go get a job! It should be easy.

 

[Chuz Life]

It means higher taxes which I am barely even making a living right now my boyfriend is still out of work and I am stressed out constantly. So now I gotta worry even more.

Try being unemployed and living off your savings that are quickly dwindling away.

Who is unemployed right now? Restaurant workers for the most part! Name anyone else affected by COVID and that is where your unemployment come from. The unemployed are minimum wage or service related industries, like hotels.

I am unemployed right now, myself.

Try rereading my post with that in mind.

See the context?

Go get a job! It should be easy.

Why should I get a job?

The leftardz have convinced me that I am entitled to free shit.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

It means higher taxes which I am barely even making a living right now my boyfriend is still out of work and I am stressed out constantly. So now I gotta worry even more.

Try being unemployed and living off your savings that are quickly dwindling away.

Who is unemployed right now? Restaurant workers for the most part! Name anyone else affected by COVID and that is where your unemployment come from. The unemployed are minimum wage or service related industries, like hotels.

I am unemployed right now, myself.

Try rereading my post with that in mind.

See the context?

My clients have laid off or furloughed on average 20% of their workforce. Only one is in the restaurant industry.

Our medical manufacturing company offered buyouts to those who qualified and furloughs to the rest. If they couldn't drop the payroll enough, layoffs were next.

I barely qualified for a buyout and I took it to help me move (hopefully) to another State.

Correct. Supply Chain was significantly disrupted as well due to COVID and industries like healthcare, hospitality, dining establishment, travel & tourism were hit particularly hard.