What do normal people - think of Israel?

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[Hossfly]

It took some time to get Governments to place sanctions on South Africa. But eventually things turned out as they should have,

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[SAYIT]

Who are the "normal" people?

As CNM has described them, "normal" people are stupid, mindless, and uneducated children with no understanding of moral reasoning, no recognition of the psychology of social dynamics in regards to the tyranny of the majority, no comprehension of the nature of propaganda and with such an uber-conformist nature that they march in lock step as if little more than programmable automatons.

He actually seems to take pride in that. Ignorance is strength, you know.

A tragic yet apt description of most of the libs here.

 

[SAYIT]

What amazes me is the general lack of curiosity or intuitive intelligence on display by these mindless conformists. Have they learned absolutely nothing about group dynamics from their experiences in life?

If forced to guess I'd say they probably have but adamantly refuse to apply what they have learned to the Arab/Israeli conflict. They are blinded by their rabid hatred.

 

[Grendelyn]

Apologist?

Yes. An Israel apologist tries to explain away a poll showing what normal people think of Israel by saying it's slanted when the methodology of the poll is clear and normal.

Who are the "normal" people?

Those that are completely and totally opposite of yourself. ~ Susan

 

[theliq]

...Kondor you live in a myopic world of hideous (look the word up) denial...

Yes. Someone advocating for the Palestinians would, indeed, portray their adversaries in just such a fashion. This does not, however, ipso facto, render your opinion operative, and I, for one, reject it as partisan. But, thank you for your feedback.

...Recently I met a Christian volunteer who went to the OCCUPIED TERRORIES to escort Palestinian children to school...to PROTECT THEM from VERBAL and PHYSICAL VIOLENCE by the Israeli Settlers(SCUM)...

The Jew-hatred and Israel-hatred dripping from your bombast tells us all we need to know.

...Violence against Arab kids??Christian volunteers to protect them???From Jewish Settlers??...

After sixty-six years of intermittent guerrilla and asymmetrical warfare, both sides are guilty of this, on a fairly large scale. The solution is to relocate the Losing Side and to get them out of harm's way, permanently.

...In 1977 there were 25,000 Settlers...It was easy to believe the Israelis were holding the West Bank only as a bargaining chip.Arabs(Palestinians they said) were Terrorists...

It doesn't matter.

After decades of trying to negotiate with the Mad Dog Palestinians, by 1967, the Israelis had lost much of their incentive and desire to cut a deal with the Palestinians, and, Intifadas I and II put a cap in that - shredding to bits, much of the remaining Israeli commitment to cut that deal.

By now, it should be fairly clear, that they have hardened their hearts, and have abandoned their former naive but well-intentioned hopes to cut a deal, and have moved on to the old Zionist plan of completing the Reconquista of Eretz Yislrael - see the 1922 LoN Partition Proposal Map for details.

...Now the OCCUPATION has lasted 47 years.There are over 500,000 Settlers!!!!!!!Up to 60% of the Israeli cabinet is on record as Opposing a Two State solution...

That explains how they are winning the Land-Squeeze competition - all part of the mechanical processes designed to effect the Reconquista.

...Israel has gone from the secular to backward religious (we are talking pre 2000 years ago mentality) Israel has become a backward nation...

Hardly. They have merely hardened their hearts, by abandoning any prior unrealistic hopes for a negotiated settlement, and have now begun the Reconquista in earnest - about 66 years overdue.

...the previous Secular majority of more educated Jews,have been leaving Israel in vast numbers over the last 20 years......I have met many....They feel there is no future there for them.....Their place taken by Ignorant foreigners......and Religious Meat Heads.

The Alternative Explanation is, those who are unwilling to go the distance, to complete the Reconquista on behalf of the Jews, are leaving, and those who are willing to go that distance, are staying, and arriving, in droves. Same scenario - different explanations.

...Normal people distrust this ever increasing ignorant Israel.....even Jews within and outside Israel...

Your insistence upon the use of the phrase 'normal people' is rather comical, old boy, and hardly worthy of your intellect, even as a propagandizing device.

...The World has passed judgement on current Israel,even active supporters of Israel in the past.....THEY don't like it..More of.the World recognise Palestine more than they do Israel with numbers growing...Israel in reality has few friends,it could have been so different...

The Israelis and Palestinians could have negotiated a two-state solution, in the first few decades after the establishment of the State of Israel, but that window of opportunity has come and gone.

It is no longer safe for the Israelis, to allow the Palestinians to live alongside them, and, of course, it has never been safe, for the Israelis to give back the West Bank and the Golan, given that she is surrounded by potentially hostile Muslim neighbors, and requires defensible borders and some depth to her territory, to avoid being overrun quickly by a competent surprise offensive against her.

There's no going back now - in for a penny, in for a pound - Israel will not be giving back the West Bank nor the Golan - and, for that matter, will probably be re-seizing Gaza, during the next couple of decades.

Nobody is going to stop them from completing this internal consolidation, so long as they do not actually begin slaughtering the still-resident Palestinians en masse, and so long as they do not spill over their existing northern border with Lebanon, or their existing eastern border with Syria and Jordan, or their existing southern border with Egypt.

...Israel is a country built on lies and deception,violence and bad faith...

Incompetent people, out-maneuvered by clever people, oftentimes say such things.

...you may have been winning the battles and dispossesing the Palestinians but history shows Israel will never defeat the Palestinians...

This shall determine that.

...Israel basically painted themselves into a corner by stealth and arrogance.....which in my opinion in time they will never get out of...

Thank you for your opinion on the subject.

...The World is angry and bored with Israel's machinations over the past years...pleading an innocence....when infact they are the perpatraters sic of bad faith...

Wake me up, when 'The World' decides to do something about that.

...I doubt now Israel despite their awful past under Christians,Russians,Nazis throughout their history..........but never the Palestinians by the way.....can change...

Yes - they do, indeed, seem resolute, in their ambition to complete the Reconquista of Eretz Yisrael, and to make permanent, their claim to their old spiritual and ancestral home - something they've been denied, and something they've been working towards, for the past 1900 years.

...The World are basically fed up with this nation Israel......everyone's tried of Israel,but everyone now knows what they are as a nation, untrustworthy to deal with...

The Palestinians, having exported terrorism to innocent third-party nations on numerous occasions over the past 40-50 years and more, and having re-instigated trouble between themselves and Israel on multiple occasions, are far less trustworthy, and far less intelligent and far less sane, than their Israeli counterparts, and most of the world beyond the domains of Islam both understand this and operate from that understanding, in the Real World.

...Palestine has many more friends who will help them despite Israels intrusions and theft of Palestinian Land..steve

Yes, of course.

That is why most of the court systems of modern-day Christendom - in the US and Europe and Oceania - are *****-slapping early attempts at boycotting Israel - the BDS Laughing Stock Flea Circus - and why The West intervened militarily during this year's Gaza War II.

Sorry, old boy, but - no sale.

Well thanks for you Zionist Terrorist Mantra...but it won't wash.....I will not bother to delve line by line into your response because as I said you are beyond the decency of rational reasoning causing you myopia.

I have to laugh when you utter some of your prose,I personally have no problem with an Israel as you know well BUT also a Palestinian State as well.

I hate to tell you Kondie....It was the Jews (Their Terrorist Groups) prior to 1948 that originated and organised REAL TERRORISM....as you know fully well,you can kid the Morons on here but don't use these comments on me please...I have lived in Israel and much of your and others Hatred of everything Palestinian is totally misplaced.......unlike Daniel now Danyal or what ever he calls himself, I don't think you live in Israel......so some of you say "God promised Canaan and Sumeria sic plus Moab" to the Israelites........and because of this, the Jews are entitled to this land......What Rot....you are an educated Guy Kondie......do you really think this ????????

Israel has changed...but you are right in saying the Jews out smarted the Palestinians to claim the Palestinian Lands,but in your eagerness to arrogantly try to take the high grown,you have thrown down the gauntlet to say that the Palestinians could always do the same to Israel.as Israel did to them......you see how ridiculous your comments are.........Israel may have the upper hand today but it is what happens in the future.........Israel despite spending Billions of $(more likely America money) in trying to improve their image over the past 40 years have failed as a nation,have failed as part of the World community.

It, as I said,should have been so different,the world order is changing at a rapid rate and Israel more than most have missed the boat and the opportunity to encompass...and it all has to do with the change from secularism to fanatism..sic...Great leaders like Mr Rabin(who the Jews assassinated themselves) and Mr Peres knew what should have happened but the moment is lost for ever..steve

 

[theliq]

Anybody who doesn't perceive the Israeli-Palestinian conflict the way they do, is not 'normal'.

Puh-leeeez...

What amazes me is the general lack of curiosity or intuitive intelligence on display by these mindless conformists. Have they learned absolutely nothing about group dynamics from their experiences in life?

Place 90 blue people in a room with 10 green people, and the 90 Blue people will discriminate against the 10 green. That's just how people ARE no matter how much self-serving, mamby pamby rhetoric we might offer to the contrary. Discrimination leads to prejudice, prejudice to bigotry, bigotry to hatred.

In the case of Jews, they are always the green people. After the diaspora, they were all living as small minorities in small enclaves within a host society. They kept to themselves, were successful in those fields they were allowed to pursue, but always distrusted because they were different.

In today's global world, little has changed. Jews are still the green people, and as hateful Arabs and Muslims have become more and more influential in the world, they can infect more and more people with their hatefulness, and the social dynamics are still the same. A large majority persecutes a small minority, and there simply aren't enough of the small minority to affect the overall gestalt. The only difference now is that in the age of communication, it is Israel as the expression of Jewish self determination under attack instead of Jewish communities living in individual societies.

If any of these mind-numbingly stupid people were actual liberals, they would understand this. They don't, and they aren't, however. They are closer to neo nazis than they are liberals in their extremely conformist hatred of the small minority at the hands of the large majority.

What a complete CROCK OF SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Israel don't hate......fool, their whole premise of existence...is built on HATE

 

[theliq]

...Kondor you live in a myopic world of hideous (look the word up) denial...

Yes. Someone advocating for the Palestinians would, indeed, portray their adversaries in just such a fashion. This does not, however, ipso facto, render your opinion operative, and I, for one, reject it as partisan. But, thank you for your feedback.

...Recently I met a Christian volunteer who went to the OCCUPIED TERRORIES to escort Palestinian children to school...to PROTECT THEM from VERBAL and PHYSICAL VIOLENCE by the Israeli Settlers(SCUM)...

The Jew-hatred and Israel-hatred dripping from your bombast tells us all we need to know.

...Violence against Arab kids??Christian volunteers to protect them???From Jewish Settlers??...

After sixty-six years of intermittent guerrilla and asymmetrical warfare, both sides are guilty of this, on a fairly large scale. The solution is to relocate the Losing Side and to get them out of harm's way, permanently.

...In 1977 there were 25,000 Settlers...It was easy to believe the Israelis were holding the West Bank only as a bargaining chip.Arabs(Palestinians they said) were Terrorists...

It doesn't matter.

After decades of trying to negotiate with the Mad Dog Palestinians, by 1967, the Israelis had lost much of their incentive and desire to cut a deal with the Palestinians, and, Intifadas I and II put a cap in that - shredding to bits, much of the remaining Israeli commitment to cut that deal.

By now, it should be fairly clear, that they have hardened their hearts, and have abandoned their former naive but well-intentioned hopes to cut a deal, and have moved on to the old Zionist plan of completing the Reconquista of Eretz Yislrael - see the 1922 LoN Partition Proposal Map for details.

...Now the OCCUPATION has lasted 47 years.There are over 500,000 Settlers!!!!!!!Up to 60% of the Israeli cabinet is on record as Opposing a Two State solution...

That explains how they are winning the Land-Squeeze competition - all part of the mechanical processes designed to effect the Reconquista.

...Israel has gone from the secular to backward religious (we are talking pre 2000 years ago mentality) Israel has become a backward nation...

Hardly. They have merely hardened their hearts, by abandoning any prior unrealistic hopes for a negotiated settlement, and have now begun the Reconquista in earnest - about 66 years overdue.

...the previous Secular majority of more educated Jews,have been leaving Israel in vast numbers over the last 20 years......I have met many....They feel there is no future there for them.....Their place taken by Ignorant foreigners......and Religious Meat Heads.

The Alternative Explanation is, those who are unwilling to go the distance, to complete the Reconquista on behalf of the Jews, are leaving, and those who are willing to go that distance, are staying, and arriving, in droves. Same scenario - different explanations.

...Normal people distrust this ever increasing ignorant Israel.....even Jews within and outside Israel...

Your insistence upon the use of the phrase 'normal people' is rather comical, old boy, and hardly worthy of your intellect, even as a propagandizing device.

...The World has passed judgement on current Israel,even active supporters of Israel in the past.....THEY don't like it..More of.the World recognise Palestine more than they do Israel with numbers growing...Israel in reality has few friends,it could have been so different...

The Israelis and Palestinians could have negotiated a two-state solution, in the first few decades after the establishment of the State of Israel, but that window of opportunity has come and gone.

It is no longer safe for the Israelis, to allow the Palestinians to live alongside them, and, of course, it has never been safe, for the Israelis to give back the West Bank and the Golan, given that she is surrounded by potentially hostile Muslim neighbors, and requires defensible borders and some depth to her territory, to avoid being overrun quickly by a competent surprise offensive against her.

There's no going back now - in for a penny, in for a pound - Israel will not be giving back the West Bank nor the Golan - and, for that matter, will probably be re-seizing Gaza, during the next couple of decades.

Nobody is going to stop them from completing this internal consolidation, so long as they do not actually begin slaughtering the still-resident Palestinians en masse, and so long as they do not spill over their existing northern border with Lebanon, or their existing eastern border with Syria and Jordan, or their existing southern border with Egypt.

...Israel is a country built on lies and deception,violence and bad faith...

Incompetent people, out-maneuvered by clever people, oftentimes say such things.

...you may have been winning the battles and dispossesing the Palestinians but history shows Israel will never defeat the Palestinians...

This shall determine that.

...Israel basically painted themselves into a corner by stealth and arrogance.....which in my opinion in time they will never get out of...

Thank you for your opinion on the subject.

...The World is angry and bored with Israel's machinations over the past years...pleading an innocence....when infact they are the perpatraters sic of bad faith...

Wake me up, when 'The World' decides to do something about that.

...I doubt now Israel despite their awful past under Christians,Russians,Nazis throughout their history..........but never the Palestinians by the way.....can change...

Yes - they do, indeed, seem resolute, in their ambition to complete the Reconquista of Eretz Yisrael, and to make permanent, their claim to their old spiritual and ancestral home - something they've been denied, and something they've been working towards, for the past 1900 years.

...The World are basically fed up with this nation Israel......everyone's tried of Israel,but everyone now knows what they are as a nation, untrustworthy to deal with...

The Palestinians, having exported terrorism to innocent third-party nations on numerous occasions over the past 40-50 years and more, and having re-instigated trouble between themselves and Israel on multiple occasions, are far less trustworthy, and far less intelligent and far less sane, than their Israeli counterparts, and most of the world beyond the domains of Islam both understand this and operate from that understanding, in the Real World.

...Palestine has many more friends who will help them despite Israels intrusions and theft of Palestinian Land..steve

Yes, of course.

That is why most of the court systems of modern-day Christendom - in the US and Europe and Oceania - are *****-slapping early attempts at boycotting Israel - the BDS Laughing Stock Flea Circus - and why The West intervened militarily during this year's Gaza War II.

Sorry, old boy, but - no sale.

Amazing post !

Thanks for that,I agree but most of it Myopic Zionism

 

[theliq]

Who gives a frog's fat ass what some slanted opinion poll says about Israel?

Only Israel apologists consider it slanted, and only because they wish to deny the evidence of what normal people think about Israel.

Apologist?

Hardly.

Israel kicks ass, and apologizes to no one, and needs no one to apologize for her.

And thinks nothing of Arab butt-kissers.

Kondor you live in a myopic world of hideous(look the word up)denial.....Recently I met a Christian volunteer who went to the OCCUPIED TERRORIES to escort Palestinian children to school...to PROTECT THEM from VERBAL and PHYSICAL VIOLENCE by the Israeli Settlers(SCUM).

Violence against Arab kids??Christian volunteers to protect them???From Jewish Settlers??

In 1977 there were 25,000 Settlers...It was easy to believe the Israelis were holding the West Bank only as a bargaining chip.Arabs(Palestinians they said) were Terrorists.

Now the OCCUPATION has lasted 47 years.There are over 500,000 Settlers!!!!!!!Up to 60% of the Israeli cabinet is on record as Opposing a Two State solution.

Israel has gone from the secular to backward religious (we are talking pre 2000 years ago mentality) Israel has become a backward nation....the previous Secular majority of more educated Jews,have been leaving Israel in vast numbers over the last 20 years......I have met many....They feel there is no future there for them.....Their place taken by Ignorant foreigners......and Religious Meat Heads.

Normal people distrust this ever increasing ignorant Israel.....even Jews within and outside Israel

The World has passed judgement on current Israel,even active supporters of Israel in the past.....THEY don't like it..More of.the World recognise Palestine more than they do Israel with numbers growing...Israel in reality has few friends,it could have been so different.

Israel is a country built on lies and deception,violence and bad faith.....you may have been winning the battles and dispossesing the Palestinians but history shows Israel will never defeat the Palestinians.

Israel basically painted themselves into a corner by stealth and arrogance.....which in my opinion in time they will never get out of....The World is angry and bored with Israel's machinations over the past years...pleading an innocence....when infact they are the perpatraters sic of bad faith.

I doubt now Israel despite their awful past under Christians,Russians,Nazis throughout their history..........but never the Palestinians by the way.....can change.

The World are basically fed up with this nation Israel......everyone's tried of Israel,but everyone now knows what they are as a nation, untrustworthy to deal with.

Palestine has many more friends who will help them despite Israels intrusions and theft of Palestinian Land..steve

There's only room now for one state, Steve. The Arabs have to go back to their native lands.

Well that is a shame Hoss where are you going to send all the Jews this time,because obviously the Palestinians will go back to their homeland Palestine

I think you are wrong Hoss and I never thought this solution would ever come out of your mouth....I am amazed my friend

 

[theliq]

...Kondor you live in a myopic world of hideous (look the word up) denial...

Yes. Someone advocating for the Palestinians would, indeed, portray their adversaries in just such a fashion. This does not, however, ipso facto, render your opinion operative, and I, for one, reject it as partisan. But, thank you for your feedback.

...Recently I met a Christian volunteer who went to the OCCUPIED TERRORIES to escort Palestinian children to school...to PROTECT THEM from VERBAL and PHYSICAL VIOLENCE by the Israeli Settlers(SCUM)...

The Jew-hatred and Israel-hatred dripping from your bombast tells us all we need to know.

...Violence against Arab kids??Christian volunteers to protect them???From Jewish Settlers??...

After sixty-six years of intermittent guerrilla and asymmetrical warfare, both sides are guilty of this, on a fairly large scale. The solution is to relocate the Losing Side and to get them out of harm's way, permanently.

...In 1977 there were 25,000 Settlers...It was easy to believe the Israelis were holding the West Bank only as a bargaining chip.Arabs(Palestinians they said) were Terrorists...

It doesn't matter.

After decades of trying to negotiate with the Mad Dog Palestinians, by 1967, the Israelis had lost much of their incentive and desire to cut a deal with the Palestinians, and, Intifadas I and II put a cap in that - shredding to bits, much of the remaining Israeli commitment to cut that deal.

By now, it should be fairly clear, that they have hardened their hearts, and have abandoned their former naive but well-intentioned hopes to cut a deal, and have moved on to the old Zionist plan of completing the Reconquista of Eretz Yislrael - see the 1922 LoN Partition Proposal Map for details.

...Now the OCCUPATION has lasted 47 years.There are over 500,000 Settlers!!!!!!!Up to 60% of the Israeli cabinet is on record as Opposing a Two State solution...

That explains how they are winning the Land-Squeeze competition - all part of the mechanical processes designed to effect the Reconquista.

...Israel has gone from the secular to backward religious (we are talking pre 2000 years ago mentality) Israel has become a backward nation...

Hardly. They have merely hardened their hearts, by abandoning any prior unrealistic hopes for a negotiated settlement, and have now begun the Reconquista in earnest - about 66 years overdue.

...the previous Secular majority of more educated Jews,have been leaving Israel in vast numbers over the last 20 years......I have met many....They feel there is no future there for them.....Their place taken by Ignorant foreigners......and Religious Meat Heads.

The Alternative Explanation is, those who are unwilling to go the distance, to complete the Reconquista on behalf of the Jews, are leaving, and those who are willing to go that distance, are staying, and arriving, in droves. Same scenario - different explanations.

...Normal people distrust this ever increasing ignorant Israel.....even Jews within and outside Israel...

Your insistence upon the use of the phrase 'normal people' is rather comical, old boy, and hardly worthy of your intellect, even as a propagandizing device.

...The World has passed judgement on current Israel,even active supporters of Israel in the past.....THEY don't like it..More of.the World recognise Palestine more than they do Israel with numbers growing...Israel in reality has few friends,it could have been so different...

The Israelis and Palestinians could have negotiated a two-state solution, in the first few decades after the establishment of the State of Israel, but that window of opportunity has come and gone.

It is no longer safe for the Israelis, to allow the Palestinians to live alongside them, and, of course, it has never been safe, for the Israelis to give back the West Bank and the Golan, given that she is surrounded by potentially hostile Muslim neighbors, and requires defensible borders and some depth to her territory, to avoid being overrun quickly by a competent surprise offensive against her.

There's no going back now - in for a penny, in for a pound - Israel will not be giving back the West Bank nor the Golan - and, for that matter, will probably be re-seizing Gaza, during the next couple of decades.

Nobody is going to stop them from completing this internal consolidation, so long as they do not actually begin slaughtering the still-resident Palestinians en masse, and so long as they do not spill over their existing northern border with Lebanon, or their existing eastern border with Syria and Jordan, or their existing southern border with Egypt.

...Israel is a country built on lies and deception,violence and bad faith...

Incompetent people, out-maneuvered by clever people, oftentimes say such things.

...you may have been winning the battles and dispossesing the Palestinians but history shows Israel will never defeat the Palestinians...

This shall determine that.

...Israel basically painted themselves into a corner by stealth and arrogance.....which in my opinion in time they will never get out of...

Thank you for your opinion on the subject.

...The World is angry and bored with Israel's machinations over the past years...pleading an innocence....when infact they are the perpatraters sic of bad faith...

Wake me up, when 'The World' decides to do something about that.

...I doubt now Israel despite their awful past under Christians,Russians,Nazis throughout their history..........but never the Palestinians by the way.....can change...

Yes - they do, indeed, seem resolute, in their ambition to complete the Reconquista of Eretz Yisrael, and to make permanent, their claim to their old spiritual and ancestral home - something they've been denied, and something they've been working towards, for the past 1900 years.

...The World are basically fed up with this nation Israel......everyone's tried of Israel,but everyone now knows what they are as a nation, untrustworthy to deal with...

The Palestinians, having exported terrorism to innocent third-party nations on numerous occasions over the past 40-50 years and more, and having re-instigated trouble between themselves and Israel on multiple occasions, are far less trustworthy, and far less intelligent and far less sane, than their Israeli counterparts, and most of the world beyond the domains of Islam both understand this and operate from that understanding, in the Real World.

...Palestine has many more friends who will help them despite Israels intrusions and theft of Palestinian Land..steve

Yes, of course.

That is why most of the court systems of modern-day Christendom - in the US and Europe and Oceania - are *****-slapping early attempts at boycotting Israel - the BDS Laughing Stock Flea Circus - and why The West intervened militarily during this year's Gaza War II.

Sorry, old boy, but - no sale.

I have Never said I hated Jews,and you have NO RIGHT to say otherwise

 

[Billo_Really]

The biggest hoot in this whole thing, is the Israeli kiss-ass crowd thinking "their" the normal ones.

 

[Hossfly]

The biggest hoot in this whole thing, is the Israeli kiss-ass crowd thinking "their" the normal ones.

 

[Hossfly]

Who gives a frog's fat ass what some slanted opinion poll says about Israel?

Only Israel apologists consider it slanted, and only because they wish to deny the evidence of what normal people think about Israel.

Apologist?

Hardly.

Israel kicks ass, and apologizes to no one, and needs no one to apologize for her.

And thinks nothing of Arab butt-kissers.

Kondor you live in a myopic world of hideous(look the word up)denial.....Recently I met a Christian volunteer who went to the OCCUPIED TERRORIES to escort Palestinian children to school...to PROTECT THEM from VERBAL and PHYSICAL VIOLENCE by the Israeli Settlers(SCUM).

Violence against Arab kids??Christian volunteers to protect them???From Jewish Settlers??

In 1977 there were 25,000 Settlers...It was easy to believe the Israelis were holding the West Bank only as a bargaining chip.Arabs(Palestinians they said) were Terrorists.

Now the OCCUPATION has lasted 47 years.There are over 500,000 Settlers!!!!!!!Up to 60% of the Israeli cabinet is on record as Opposing a Two State solution.

Israel has gone from the secular to backward religious (we are talking pre 2000 years ago mentality) Israel has become a backward nation....the previous Secular majority of more educated Jews,have been leaving Israel in vast numbers over the last 20 years......I have met many....They feel there is no future there for them.....Their place taken by Ignorant foreigners......and Religious Meat Heads.

Normal people distrust this ever increasing ignorant Israel.....even Jews within and outside Israel

The World has passed judgement on current Israel,even active supporters of Israel in the past.....THEY don't like it..More of.the World recognise Palestine more than they do Israel with numbers growing...Israel in reality has few friends,it could have been so different.

Israel is a country built on lies and deception,violence and bad faith.....you may have been winning the battles and dispossesing the Palestinians but history shows Israel will never defeat the Palestinians.

Israel basically painted themselves into a corner by stealth and arrogance.....which in my opinion in time they will never get out of....The World is angry and bored with Israel's machinations over the past years...pleading an innocence....when infact they are the perpatraters sic of bad faith.

I doubt now Israel despite their awful past under Christians,Russians,Nazis throughout their history..........but never the Palestinians by the way.....can change.

The World are basically fed up with this nation Israel......everyone's tried of Israel,but everyone now knows what they are as a nation, untrustworthy to deal with.

Palestine has many more friends who will help them despite Israels intrusions and theft of Palestinian Land..steve

There's only room now for one state, Steve. The Arabs have to go back to their native lands.

Well that is a shame Hoss where are you going to send all the Jews this time,because obviously the Palestinians will go back to their homeland Palestine

I think you are wrong Hoss and I never thought this solution would ever come out of your mouth....I am amazed my friend

It's time the Palestinians faced the facts of life, Steve. Israel is not going anywhere and there's only room for one rooster in the barnyard.

 

[Kondor3]

...Well thanks for you Zionist Terrorist Mantra...

No problem. All part of the friendly service.

...I hate to tell you Kondie....It was the Jews...that originated and organised REAL TERRORISM...

Truth be told, I don't really give a tinker's damn.

...."God promised Canaan and Sumeria sic plus Moab" to the Israelites........and because of this, the Jews are entitled to this land......What Rot....you are an educated Guy Kondie......do you really think this ????????...

Nope. I don't really give a tinker's damn about that either. What signifies with me is (1) their ancient spiritual claim to the land and (2) their present control of the land.

...you are right in saying the Jews out smarted the Palestinians to claim the Palestinian Lands,but in your eagerness to arrogantly try to take the high grown,you have thrown down the gauntlet to say that the Palestinians could always do the same to Israel.as Israel did to them....

I do not believe that the one follows the other. Any such window of opportunity for the Palestinians to do the same evaporated during the 1948-1949 timeframe.

...Israel may have the upper hand today but it is what happens in the future...

Indeed. Israel will have the upper hand tomorrow, as well.

...Israel despite spending Billions of $(more likely America money) in trying to improve their image over the past 40 years have failed as a nation,have failed as part of the World community...

Israel does just fine in that regard, in most respects. Their only failure to date is that they have not yet completed the expulsion of the remaining squatters from Rump Palestine.

...It, as I said,should have been so different,the world order is changing at a rapid rate and Israel more than most have missed the boat and the opportunity to encompass...and it all has to do with the change from secularism to fanatism..sic...Great leaders like Mr Rabin(who the Jews assassinated themselves) and Mr Peres knew what should have happened but the moment is lost for ever..steve

Oh, I'm sure that your reliance upon the Changing Wave of the Future - so to speak - is appealing, and comforting; however, it has not yet materialized, and, frankly, I seriously doubt that it will in future, either.

We have irreconcilable opinions and differing prognosis for our various patients.

 

[Kondor3]

...What a complete CROCK OF SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Israel don't hate......fool, their whole premise of existence...is built on HATE

Yes, yes, yes... very nice, I'm sure... thank you for your feedback.

 

[Kondor3]

...I have Never said I hated Jews,and you have NO RIGHT to say otherwise

The venom dripping from that portion of your post stands sufficient guarantor for that observation.

No explicit declaration is necessary.

Common-sense deduction is adequate to the task at hand.

As to my right to say otherwise...

My own counsel will I keep, on how to interpret the use of appellations like 'scum', in connection with Israelis.

My own counsel will I keep, on whether or not I articulate that interpretation, during the course of an exchange.

My own counsel will I keep, on what my rights are.

 

[Billo_Really]

See what I mean?

Their only comeback is cartoons.

 

[Kondor3]

See what I mean?

Their only comeback is cartoons.

That's OK...

For the longest time, yours consisted of F-bombs and photoshop pictures of retired US battleships taken out of mothballs and firing on Israelis...

Pot... meet kettle.

 

[Hossfly]

See what I mean?

Their only comeback is cartoons.

Their edumacational, Billio.

 

[Billo_Really]

That's OK...

For the longest time, yours consisted of F-bombs and photoshop pictures of retired US battleships taken out of mothballs and firing on Israelis...

Pot... meet kettle.

And on those occasions where you open your mouth and attempt to make a lucid point, you confirm to the world, just how stupid you really are.