What do liberals want the US to be?

this is a serious question, please only reply with serious comments.

what specifically do liberals want the US to become?
Tell us exactly what you want changed, and why.
Seriously?

Liberals want a country that provides a level playing field for all people regardless of race, sex, sexuality or social class
Liberals want to help those who need helping
How do you level the playing field? By bulldozing anyone that is smart, successful, wealthy, superior in some way, right? We can not allow profit!

How do you help those who need helping? By stealing from those who don't need help, right?

No, you level the playing field by repealing the supply side economic policies that have destroyed the middle class. Bring the upper tax rate to the 40% range, tax capital gains the same as earned income, cut the tax code to eliminate loopholes designed to protect wealth.

Returning to economic policies that served the nation so well, for so long is not stealing
Yeah that's what I thought. Let the rich hide their wealth any which way they can. Punish retirees, small business owners, and professionals that make up the upper middle class with brutal tax rates designed to bulldoze them into the ground and make them leave the country or give up trying to better themselves.

Why must the super wealthy hide behind small business?

That is how they justified their current 38% tax rate. Fact is our wealthiest Americans are paying historically low tax rates and hide behind capital gains

Lets tax every dollar the same whether it is earned by sweat or investment
every dollar the same for everyone? Or do you want to pick and choose who pays taxes and who you give discounts too? For example, the super rich who don't need any income of any type... those people we'll just ignore. The professionals who went to school for 8years they pay twice as much as everyone else by percentage of income and the laborers who never went to school they pay no federal income taxes. Is that what you want?
 
Seriously?

Liberals want a country that provides a level playing field for all people regardless of race, sex, sexuality or social class
Liberals want to help those who need helping
How do you level the playing field? By bulldozing anyone that is smart, successful, wealthy, superior in some way, right? We can not allow profit!

How do you help those who need helping? By stealing from those who don't need help, right?

No, you level the playing field by repealing the supply side economic policies that have destroyed the middle class. Bring the upper tax rate to the 40% range, tax capital gains the same as earned income, cut the tax code to eliminate loopholes designed to protect wealth.

Returning to economic policies that served the nation so well, for so long is not stealing
Yeah that's what I thought. Let the rich hide their wealth any which way they can. Punish retirees, small business owners, and professionals that make up the upper middle class with brutal tax rates designed to bulldoze them into the ground and make them leave the country or give up trying to better themselves.

Why must the super wealthy hide behind small business?

That is how they justified their current 38% tax rate. Fact is our wealthiest Americans are paying historically low tax rates and hide behind capital gains

Lets tax every dollar the same whether it is earned by sweat or investment
every dollar the same for everyone? Or do you want to pick and choose who pays taxes and who you give discounts too? For example, the super rich who don't need any income of any type... those people we'll just ignore. The professionals who went to school for 8years they pay twice as much as everyone else by percentage of income and the laborers who never went to school they pay no federal income taxes. Is that what you want?
That is why I want to target capital gains

Right now, mega wealthy CEOs can brag that they only receive $1 a year in salary while they take tens of millions in untouchable capital gains
 
You never heard of the good ol boy network? It still exist. I had to quit my last job , my dream job, because the owner wouldn't let me hire women or anyone older then 55 years.
Yeah and any company that has a federal contract has to promote women and minorities irregardless of qualifications or loose the federal contract. Thus white male professionals get screwed again and again and again. What do you have against older women?
No they don't

They have to demonstrate that they promote and hire regardless of race, sex or creed. If they can demonstrate they do not have qualified applicants, they are not forced to hire anyone
Prior to civil rights, it seemed only white male christians were qualified. That is why we needed affirmative action
ROFL what a load of horse manure. They are FORCED to hire based on race, sex, and creed to "correct" the NUMBERS based on some BULLSHIT ASSUMPTION that the people working for a company should have a certain percentage of each, and until you get their the people in the wrong group are screwed over.
 
How do you "elevate" everyone? Where's my elevator? I don't understand these liberal nirvana pipe dreams.
You elevate everyone by not conducting business based on bigotry. You elevate everyone by recognizing that rights are rights and should be enjoyed by each and every tax paying, law abiding, sober citizen. Discrimination does not elevate, it erodes the promise of America.

Every citizen should enjoy a right to education, and therefore equal opportunity. Each citizen should enjoy the right to conduct business regardless of his economic status, his religion, his race and his sexual orientation.

Equality does not mean taking rights from others to provide rights for others.. It means a level playing field and the chance at success.
Other than the bigotry against white males, who is conducting business based on bigotry?

Since when does one have to be sober, or tax paying to enjoy rights in this country? Huh?

The only legal discrimination in this country is against white males, how does that elevate white males?

What does "right to education mean?" Can you please talk in clear language vs nirvana political campaign speak?

Where are American citizen's refused to conduct business based on economic status, religion, race, or sexual orientation? What the heck are you talking about?

What the hell does level playing field mean? Where in America is chance at success removed for anyone but white males?
Businesses refuse to cater to some groups they hate and fear and then claim "religious freedom". How does one freedom eliminate another? Where are white males discriminated against? Do you, as a white male I assume, believe that everyone else getting the same treatment as you mean that your rights are being eroded?

Every citizen should have the right to an education. Education provides opportunity. Discriminating against citizens based on immutable characteristics means those citizens will not have an equal opportunity.

And if you don't pay taxes or if you're intoxicated, you have ceded your standing.

Huh? What rock are you living under where you think Affirmative Action is not an attack on while males?

I asked "what" right to education means. In response you said right to education means right to education. I'll ask again, what does right to education mean? Maybe I can help, who does not have a right to education in this country? How are we stopping you from becoming educated?

No question affirmative action is an attack on white males. Prior to affirmative action, white males had almost exclusive access to skilled and management positions....that is no longer true

Yest, white males still seem to be doing pretty well in our society
Depends on age. White males entering said racist environment are screwed by the supposed sins of their forefathers in hiring to many white guys and thus are the target of racial profiling against white males. Of course when layoffs come around getting rid of expensive white males is a double bonus as you are also correcting racial and gender numbers, course who gives a shit whether the people staying based on race and gender know how to tie their shoe laces. It's all about race and gender.
 
You never heard of the good ol boy network? It still exist. I had to quit my last job , my dream job, because the owner wouldn't let me hire women or anyone older then 55 years.
Yeah and any company that has a federal contract has to promote women and minorities irregardless of qualifications or loose the federal contract. Thus white male professionals get screwed again and again and again. What do you have against older women?
No they don't

They have to demonstrate that they promote and hire regardless of race, sex or creed. If they can demonstrate they do not have qualified applicants, they are not forced to hire anyone
Prior to civil rights, it seemed only white male christians were qualified. That is why we needed affirmative action
ROFL what a load of horse manure. They are FORCED to hire based on race, sex, and creed to "correct" the NUMBERS based on some BULLSHIT ASSUMPTION that the people working for a company should have a certain percentage of each, and until you get their the people in the wrong group are screwed over.
White males no longer had exclusive access to skilled and management positions. affirmative action changed that
Federal contractors were forced to justify their lack of diversity or lose contracts

Affirmative Action was hugely successful
 
You elevate everyone by not conducting business based on bigotry. You elevate everyone by recognizing that rights are rights and should be enjoyed by each and every tax paying, law abiding, sober citizen. Discrimination does not elevate, it erodes the promise of America.

Every citizen should enjoy a right to education, and therefore equal opportunity. Each citizen should enjoy the right to conduct business regardless of his economic status, his religion, his race and his sexual orientation.

Equality does not mean taking rights from others to provide rights for others.. It means a level playing field and the chance at success.
Other than the bigotry against white males, who is conducting business based on bigotry?

Since when does one have to be sober, or tax paying to enjoy rights in this country? Huh?

The only legal discrimination in this country is against white males, how does that elevate white males?

What does "right to education mean?" Can you please talk in clear language vs nirvana political campaign speak?

Where are American citizen's refused to conduct business based on economic status, religion, race, or sexual orientation? What the heck are you talking about?

What the hell does level playing field mean? Where in America is chance at success removed for anyone but white males?
Businesses refuse to cater to some groups they hate and fear and then claim "religious freedom". How does one freedom eliminate another? Where are white males discriminated against? Do you, as a white male I assume, believe that everyone else getting the same treatment as you mean that your rights are being eroded?

Every citizen should have the right to an education. Education provides opportunity. Discriminating against citizens based on immutable characteristics means those citizens will not have an equal opportunity.

And if you don't pay taxes or if you're intoxicated, you have ceded your standing.

Huh? What rock are you living under where you think Affirmative Action is not an attack on while males?

I asked "what" right to education means. In response you said right to education means right to education. I'll ask again, what does right to education mean? Maybe I can help, who does not have a right to education in this country? How are we stopping you from becoming educated?

No question affirmative action is an attack on white males. Prior to affirmative action, white males had almost exclusive access to skilled and management positions....that is no longer true

Yest, white males still seem to be doing pretty well in our society
Depends on age. White males entering said racist environment are screwed by the supposed sins of their forefathers in hiring to many white guys and thus are the target of racial profiling against white males. Of course when layoffs come around getting rid of expensive white males is a double bonus as you are also correcting racial and gender numbers, course who gives a shit whether the people staying based on race and gender know how to tie their shoe laces. It's all about race and gender.
Somehow

White males seem to still be doing pretty well 50 years after affirmative action
 
How do you level the playing field? By bulldozing anyone that is smart, successful, wealthy, superior in some way, right? We can not allow profit!

How do you help those who need helping? By stealing from those who don't need help, right?

No, you level the playing field by repealing the supply side economic policies that have destroyed the middle class. Bring the upper tax rate to the 40% range, tax capital gains the same as earned income, cut the tax code to eliminate loopholes designed to protect wealth.

Returning to economic policies that served the nation so well, for so long is not stealing
Yeah that's what I thought. Let the rich hide their wealth any which way they can. Punish retirees, small business owners, and professionals that make up the upper middle class with brutal tax rates designed to bulldoze them into the ground and make them leave the country or give up trying to better themselves.

Why must the super wealthy hide behind small business?

That is how they justified their current 38% tax rate. Fact is our wealthiest Americans are paying historically low tax rates and hide behind capital gains

Lets tax every dollar the same whether it is earned by sweat or investment
every dollar the same for everyone? Or do you want to pick and choose who pays taxes and who you give discounts too? For example, the super rich who don't need any income of any type... those people we'll just ignore. The professionals who went to school for 8years they pay twice as much as everyone else by percentage of income and the laborers who never went to school they pay no federal income taxes. Is that what you want?
That is why I want to target capital gains

Right now, mega wealthy CEOs can brag that they only receive $1 a year in salary while they take tens of millions in untouchable capital gains
ROFL Capital gains already went up, you need a new shtick.
 
Basically fairness is what liberals want.

And which definition of fair shall we use?

A dollar I earn from my stock's dividend buys $1.00 worth of gasoline right? A dollar you earn working at your job buys one dollar worth of gasoline, right? So it should be taxed the same.

It's pretty simple.

You do what you want with your body. I do what I want my body.

It's pretty simple.

The police force should stop anyone whom they witness breaking the law. If they are just going to issue warnings, they should issue the same number of warnings regardless of race, age, sex, etc...Penalties for the same crime should have the same penalties (more or less).

It's pretty simple.

The America Conservatives seem to favor (on balance) is summed up by this simple cartoon:



The students in the back of the class room are on their own with a conservative administration.
 
A dollar I earn from my stock's dividend buys $1.00 worth of gasoline right? A dollar you earn working at your job buys one dollar worth of gasoline, right? So it should be taxed the same.

It's pretty simple.

The $1.00 I use to buy stock, wasn't it already taxed when I earned it working at my job? What moral imperative allows you to tax it again? Your greed seems insufficient to me.
 
You never heard of the good ol boy network? It still exist. I had to quit my last job , my dream job, because the owner wouldn't let me hire women or anyone older then 55 years.
Yeah and any company that has a federal contract has to promote women and minorities irregardless of qualifications or loose the federal contract. Thus white male professionals get screwed again and again and again. What do you have against older women?
No they don't

They have to demonstrate that they promote and hire regardless of race, sex or creed. If they can demonstrate they do not have qualified applicants, they are not forced to hire anyone
Prior to civil rights, it seemed only white male christians were qualified. That is why we needed affirmative action
ROFL what a load of horse manure. They are FORCED to hire based on race, sex, and creed to "correct" the NUMBERS based on some BULLSHIT ASSUMPTION that the people working for a company should have a certain percentage of each, and until you get their the people in the wrong group are screwed over.
White males no longer had exclusive access to skilled and management positions. affirmative action changed that
Federal contractors were forced to justify their lack of diversity or lose contracts

Affirmative Action was hugely successful
Yeah you can tell how successful it was by all of the how well our economy and companies are doing.. oh yeah NVM I guess putting shitty people in charge isn't working is it.
 
Other than the bigotry against white males, who is conducting business based on bigotry?

Since when does one have to be sober, or tax paying to enjoy rights in this country? Huh?

The only legal discrimination in this country is against white males, how does that elevate white males?

What does "right to education mean?" Can you please talk in clear language vs nirvana political campaign speak?

Where are American citizen's refused to conduct business based on economic status, religion, race, or sexual orientation? What the heck are you talking about?

What the hell does level playing field mean? Where in America is chance at success removed for anyone but white males?
Businesses refuse to cater to some groups they hate and fear and then claim "religious freedom". How does one freedom eliminate another? Where are white males discriminated against? Do you, as a white male I assume, believe that everyone else getting the same treatment as you mean that your rights are being eroded?

Every citizen should have the right to an education. Education provides opportunity. Discriminating against citizens based on immutable characteristics means those citizens will not have an equal opportunity.

And if you don't pay taxes or if you're intoxicated, you have ceded your standing.

Huh? What rock are you living under where you think Affirmative Action is not an attack on while males?

I asked "what" right to education means. In response you said right to education means right to education. I'll ask again, what does right to education mean? Maybe I can help, who does not have a right to education in this country? How are we stopping you from becoming educated?

No question affirmative action is an attack on white males. Prior to affirmative action, white males had almost exclusive access to skilled and management positions....that is no longer true

Yest, white males still seem to be doing pretty well in our society
Depends on age. White males entering said racist environment are screwed by the supposed sins of their forefathers in hiring to many white guys and thus are the target of racial profiling against white males. Of course when layoffs come around getting rid of expensive white males is a double bonus as you are also correcting racial and gender numbers, course who gives a shit whether the people staying based on race and gender know how to tie their shoe laces. It's all about race and gender.
Somehow

White males seem to still be doing pretty well 50 years after affirmative action
RKM claims to have paid "millions" in taxes. I know, he's full of shit and all but here is his "testimony"...

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Which means he's personally made tens of millions of dollars...all under affirmative action. Obviously, the deck is stacked to hurt that moron.
 
Businesses refuse to cater to some groups they hate and fear and then claim "religious freedom". How does one freedom eliminate another? Where are white males discriminated against? Do you, as a white male I assume, believe that everyone else getting the same treatment as you mean that your rights are being eroded?

Every citizen should have the right to an education. Education provides opportunity. Discriminating against citizens based on immutable characteristics means those citizens will not have an equal opportunity.

And if you don't pay taxes or if you're intoxicated, you have ceded your standing.

Huh? What rock are you living under where you think Affirmative Action is not an attack on while males?

I asked "what" right to education means. In response you said right to education means right to education. I'll ask again, what does right to education mean? Maybe I can help, who does not have a right to education in this country? How are we stopping you from becoming educated?

No question affirmative action is an attack on white males. Prior to affirmative action, white males had almost exclusive access to skilled and management positions....that is no longer true

Yest, white males still seem to be doing pretty well in our society
Depends on age. White males entering said racist environment are screwed by the supposed sins of their forefathers in hiring to many white guys and thus are the target of racial profiling against white males. Of course when layoffs come around getting rid of expensive white males is a double bonus as you are also correcting racial and gender numbers, course who gives a shit whether the people staying based on race and gender know how to tie their shoe laces. It's all about race and gender.
Somehow

White males seem to still be doing pretty well 50 years after affirmative action
RKM claims to have paid "millions" in taxes. I know, he's full of shit and all but here is his "testimony"...

Gasoline Below 3.00 A Gallon Thank You Mr. President Page 100 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum


Which means he's personally made tens of millions of dollars...all under affirmative action. Obviously, the deck is stacked to hurt that moron.
You're a moron... only morons think the upper middle class is limited to 20% in taxes. My corporation was not subject to AA because I never took a government contract. Other companies I worked for, other than my own, did have AA and that did affect me in negative ways dozens of times, both directly and indirectly.

FYI millions in taxes divided over 30years does not equal filthy rich.
 
Huh? What rock are you living under where you think Affirmative Action is not an attack on while males?

I asked "what" right to education means. In response you said right to education means right to education. I'll ask again, what does right to education mean? Maybe I can help, who does not have a right to education in this country? How are we stopping you from becoming educated?

No question affirmative action is an attack on white males. Prior to affirmative action, white males had almost exclusive access to skilled and management positions....that is no longer true

Yest, white males still seem to be doing pretty well in our society
Depends on age. White males entering said racist environment are screwed by the supposed sins of their forefathers in hiring to many white guys and thus are the target of racial profiling against white males. Of course when layoffs come around getting rid of expensive white males is a double bonus as you are also correcting racial and gender numbers, course who gives a shit whether the people staying based on race and gender know how to tie their shoe laces. It's all about race and gender.
Somehow

White males seem to still be doing pretty well 50 years after affirmative action
RKM claims to have paid "millions" in taxes. I know, he's full of shit and all but here is his "testimony"...

Gasoline Below 3.00 A Gallon Thank You Mr. President Page 100 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum


Which means he's personally made tens of millions of dollars...all under affirmative action. Obviously, the deck is stacked to hurt that moron.
You're a moron... only morons think the upper middle class is limited to 20% in taxes. My corporation was not subject to AA because I never took a government contract. Other companies I worked for, other than my own, did have AA and that did affect me in negative ways dozens of times, both directly and indirectly.

FYI millions in taxes divided over 30years does not equal filthy rich.

Actually millions (plural) in taxes does equal "filthy" rich. If you were actually wealthy, you'd know that.
Either that or you have some accountants who are either dumber than you (doubtful) or have sticky fingers.
 
Basically fairness is what liberals want.

And which definition of fair shall we use?

A dollar I earn from my stock's dividend buys $1.00 worth of gasoline right? A dollar you earn working at your job buys one dollar worth of gasoline, right? So it should be taxed the same.

It's pretty simple.

You do what you want with your body. I do what I want my body.

It's pretty simple.

The police force should stop anyone whom they witness breaking the law. If they are just going to issue warnings, they should issue the same number of warnings regardless of race, age, sex, etc...Penalties for the same crime should have the same penalties (more or less).

It's pretty simple.

The America Conservatives seem to favor (on balance) is summed up by this simple cartoon:



The students in the back of the class room are on their own with a conservative administration.


You mean Reality is summed up by that cartoon. In natural reality there will always be people with advantages. The only way to remove the "privilege" afforded those sitting in the front of the class is to artificially manipulate the seating until everyone is the same distance from the goal. In life, this means dragging everyone down to the level that you are able to drag the lowest up to. Punish success and reward failure until you are left with a mediocrity perfectly described by this definition of fair: neither excellent nor poor; moderately or tolerably good.

Eliminate excellence and achievement and you can reach your goal of "fairness." A tolerable life for everyone. Is that what you want to achieve?

On the other hand you could use this definition of fair: free from bias, dishonesty, or injustice.

Is it free from bias to manipulate society to take from some and give to others?
 
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No, you level the playing field by repealing the supply side economic policies that have destroyed the middle class. Bring the upper tax rate to the 40% range, tax capital gains the same as earned income, cut the tax code to eliminate loopholes designed to protect wealth.

Returning to economic policies that served the nation so well, for so long is not stealing
Yeah that's what I thought. Let the rich hide their wealth any which way they can. Punish retirees, small business owners, and professionals that make up the upper middle class with brutal tax rates designed to bulldoze them into the ground and make them leave the country or give up trying to better themselves.

Why must the super wealthy hide behind small business?

That is how they justified their current 38% tax rate. Fact is our wealthiest Americans are paying historically low tax rates and hide behind capital gains

Lets tax every dollar the same whether it is earned by sweat or investment
every dollar the same for everyone? Or do you want to pick and choose who pays taxes and who you give discounts too? For example, the super rich who don't need any income of any type... those people we'll just ignore. The professionals who went to school for 8years they pay twice as much as everyone else by percentage of income and the laborers who never went to school they pay no federal income taxes. Is that what you want?
That is why I want to target capital gains

Right now, mega wealthy CEOs can brag that they only receive $1 a year in salary while they take tens of millions in untouchable capital gains
ROFL Capital gains already went up, you need a new shtick.
They need to match the rates paid on earned income

Money earned from sweat should be taxed at the same rate as money earned from investment
 
You never heard of the good ol boy network? It still exist. I had to quit my last job , my dream job, because the owner wouldn't let me hire women or anyone older then 55 years.
Yeah and any company that has a federal contract has to promote women and minorities irregardless of qualifications or loose the federal contract. Thus white male professionals get screwed again and again and again. What do you have against older women?
No they don't

They have to demonstrate that they promote and hire regardless of race, sex or creed. If they can demonstrate they do not have qualified applicants, they are not forced to hire anyone
Prior to civil rights, it seemed only white male christians were qualified. That is why we needed affirmative action
ROFL what a load of horse manure. They are FORCED to hire based on race, sex, and creed to "correct" the NUMBERS based on some BULLSHIT ASSUMPTION that the people working for a company should have a certain percentage of each, and until you get their the people in the wrong group are screwed over.
White males no longer had exclusive access to skilled and management positions. affirmative action changed that
Federal contractors were forced to justify their lack of diversity or lose contracts

Affirmative Action was hugely successful
Yeah you can tell how successful it was by all of the how well our economy and companies are doing.. oh yeah NVM I guess putting shitty people in charge isn't working is it.

The number of women and minorities now occupying skilled positions and management is a tribute to affirmative action
 
Basically fairness is what liberals want.

And which definition of fair shall we use?

A dollar I earn from my stock's dividend buys $1.00 worth of gasoline right? A dollar you earn working at your job buys one dollar worth of gasoline, right? So it should be taxed the same.

It's pretty simple.

You do what you want with your body. I do what I want my body.

It's pretty simple.

The police force should stop anyone whom they witness breaking the law. If they are just going to issue warnings, they should issue the same number of warnings regardless of race, age, sex, etc...Penalties for the same crime should have the same penalties (more or less).

It's pretty simple.

The America Conservatives seem to favor (on balance) is summed up by this simple cartoon:



The students in the back of the class room are on their own with a conservative administration.


You mean Reality is summed up by that cartoon. In natural reality there will always be people with advantages. The only way to remove the "privilege" afforded those sitting in the front of the class is to artificially manipulate the seating until everyone is the same distance from the goal. In life, this means dragging everyone down to the level that you are able to drag the lowest up to. Punish success and reward failure until you are left with a mediocrity perfectly described by this definition of fair: neither excellent nor poor; moderately or tolerably good.

No...that is what YOU mean.

"Punish success" No. Make success attainable for everyone. That seems to be what conservatives on the whole hate.

The America Conservatives seem to want; summed up in 4 lines:.

For women: "Why aren't you in the kitchen making me a pie?"
For minorities: "Why aren't you serving me my pie?"
For the poor: "Get your own pie."
For non-Christians: "You're entitled to what you call "pie", just agree your pie is inferior

Eliminate excellence and achievement and you can reach your goal of "fairness." A tolerable life for everyone. Is that what you want to achieve?
Fairness? I stated what I meant... Tax all income the same. Let people do what they want with their bodies. Treat criminal suspects all the same through out the process from first suspicion to sentencing.

On the other hand you could use this definition of fair: free from bias, dishonesty, or injustice.

Is it free from bias to manipulate society to take from some and give to others?

Of course nobody suggested such a thing. Just leveling out the playing field when it can be done is the message. We can certainly do that.
 
this is a serious question, please only reply with serious comments.

what specifically do liberals want the US to become?
Tell us exactly what you want changed, and why.

To name a few goals liberals have for the country:
  1. We want Americans to be wealthier
  2. We want Americans to live longer lives
  3. We want Americans to have a higher quality of life
  4. We want scientifically sound policy with regard to scientific matters
  5. We want for a minority or a woman to have the same chances at becoming successful as a white male who has the same abilities, experience and level of effort
  6. We want to restore the US to a land of opportunity where whether you are born into a rich family or a poor family doesn't have such a huge impact on your odds of succeeding
  7. We want people of all races, religions, and sexual orientations to feel welcome and as at home here as anybody else
  8. We want the US to be number one in the world for education
  9. We want the US to contribute a similar share of its GDP to foreign aid to what other first world countries give
  10. We want the US to be reluctant to start wars and to always be sure that the US's involvement really is making things better rather than worse
  11. We want to be the clear world leader in scientific research, and not just scientific research that is immediately profitable, but long term, pure scientific research
 
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