"What did we do to make them so angry at US?"

[Mac1958]

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The fact that people are refusing to admit that we have done anything wrong -- despite so many easily-verifiable facts -- is disturbing. It means that they're willing to justify anything, the same mindset that radical Muslims display.

It's also probably not worth arguing over, since it's difficult to deal with someone who is in abject denial of the obvious.

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[Mr. Shaman]

It does not have anything to do with drone strikes.

You don't have a fuckin' clue as to what you're talking about. You haven't lived in an area where predator drones are constantly flying overhead. Where you live 24/7 with the thought that at any moment, your life could be over. You could be doing something as simple as going to the store and BAM!, you get hit with a missle. 8 women were out collecting firewood and were blown to bits by a drone.

That pisses people off a lot more than a way some people worship.

Islamic terrorists hate us because their ideology mandates it.
The Koran tells them to kill all Jews and Christians because they are enemies.

Gee.....that surely does sound familiar......​

Biblical/Pentateuch Intolerance

Kill those who are not Christian or Jewish.​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Why do they hate America?

Because the sadistic bastards could not do this in America with their sympathizers on this board cheering them on:

The Axis Of Ignorance:
FAUX Noise, Porky Limbaugh & The NY Post​

 

[Carla_Danger]

Oh for crying out loud why must it be something we did? Why must we, when attacked, flail ourselves looking for our short comings? If living in a rich successful country which was built by the blood and sweat of our grandparents make them hate us there is hardly anything we can do about it.

I refuse to feel bad about myself and my country because these idiots are ..............idiots.

Any time an investigation is done, the first thing they look for is motive. If you don't want to know the reason, that's fine, but I can tell you it's not because we live in a successful country. (eye roll) What exactly are we successful in these days? Mathematics? Healthcare? The only thing I know where we might rank #1 is gun deaths and the incarceration rate. Where's my flag? I want to wave it.

 

[Mac1958]

Oh for crying out loud why must it be something we did? Why must we, when attacked, flail ourselves looking for our short comings? If living in a rich successful country which was built by the blood and sweat of our grandparents make them hate us there is hardly anything we can do about it.

I refuse to feel bad about myself and my country because these idiots are ..............idiots.

Any time an investigation is done, the first thing they look for is motive. If you don't want to know the reason, that's fine, but I can tell you it's not because we live in a successful country. (eye roll) What exactly are we successful in these days? Mathematics? Healthcare? The only thing I know where we might rank #1 is gun deaths and the incarceration rate. Where's my flag? I want to wave it.

Hey, hold it, we easily lead the world in sending our troops onto sovereign territory, blowing the living shit out of the place, creating human collateral damage and claiming "exceptionalism".

Don't forget those.

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[Katzndogz]

We weren't in the middle east bombing anyone on September 10, 2001.

 

[Carla_Danger]

wonder if they are contemplating this at the Friday Harvard Afternoon Tea or Happy Hour? That's all we heard when US was being attacked during the Bush years. Drink up 1% Harvard!!

Those "1%" at Harvard ARE ALL LIBERALS LIKE YOU!

You may have a bad memory, but I sure as hell don't!

You are likely correct on that. And for years, I have been completly puzzled by the paradox of wealthy people wanting socialism. But the do. A lot of them.

At the same time, I've been completely puzzled by uneducated, poor, RWingers, in the Southern states, who are already on safety net programs, but rally against them. And they even want the "right to get paid less" laws, instead of good paying union jobs. Talk about cutting off your own nose to spite your face. LOL! You do realize the red states are the welfare states?

 

[kaz]

I agree with CK
If you watch the news, you can hear what they say
It is because we think we are the police of the world.
WE ARE NOT
We need to MIND OUR OWN DAMN BUSINESS!

No one attacks someone because they don't like their global military policy unless they are a global military presence themselves. They attack us because of what we are doing in their country/region. We're in the middle east and we're propping up secular despotic governments. They don't want freedom, they want to be the oppressors.

You are right we need to mind our own business. It's not our problem, we don't need to take on every bad guy in the world. But they are bad guys, knock off that somehow it's for freedom. Taking what is a narrow and accurate reason for the attack and turning them into somehow freedom fighters and you are the ones turning it into global anti-American rhetoric is frankly pathetic. If you focused on the right message, you'd be a lot more effective.

 

[Carla_Danger]

Oh for crying out loud why must it be something we did? Why must we, when attacked, flail ourselves looking for our short comings? If living in a rich successful country which was built by the blood and sweat of our grandparents make them hate us there is hardly anything we can do about it.

I refuse to feel bad about myself and my country because these idiots are ..............idiots.

Any time an investigation is done, the first thing they look for is motive. If you don't want to know the reason, that's fine, but I can tell you it's not because we live in a successful country. (eye roll) What exactly are we successful in these days? Mathematics? Healthcare? The only thing I know where we might rank #1 is gun deaths and the incarceration rate. Where's my flag? I want to wave it.

Hey, hold it, we easily lead the world in sending our troops onto sovereign territory, blowing the living shit out of the place, creating human collateral damage and claiming "exceptionalism".

Don't forget those.

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That's pretty easy to do when they have no military to speak of.

 

[Pop23]

"Sunni extremists are believed to be behind the cafe bombing, which may be an attempt to destabilize the Shiite-led government. According to The Christian Science Monitor, 'The divide between Sunni and Shiite Iraqis that brought the country to civil war has widened again recently, with many Sunni Iraqis saying the Shiite-led government has discriminated against them since Saddam [Hussein] fell.'”

I think you're pretty close since Sunni and Shia weren't bombing each other in Iraq until we destroyed their country. I think you're confused about us leaving since we have an embassy the size of the Vatican and thousands of hired guns guarding it. Do you really believe Muslims will continue to die at the hands of US weapons without some of them bringing the fight here?

Pre-election violence rocks Baghdad, capped with cafe bombing today - CSMonitor.com

Oh, one more thing

They are killing each other.....

Get it

They hate everyone ( I know this is a hard concept to understand) who ain't THEM

By "they" do you mean Iraqis?
"They" have never killed each other on this scale since their country was formed.
The destruction of their country by an illegal US invasion is why they are killing each other today.
It's a logical consequence of murdering, maiming, and displacing millions of innocent Iraqis.
What part of that don't you get?

They meaning exactly who you wrote about, Iraqis.

What do you mean they had never killed each other in those numbers before?

Ask the Kurds....

Your logic fails. Explain Germany. Explain Japan. Explain Italy after WWII.

They understood they were defeated, their government let them down. And most of them understood THEIR countries were WRONG.

 

[Carla_Danger]

We weren't in the middle east bombing anyone on September 10, 2001.

Maybe not on that exact date, but we were before September 10, 2001. You need a history lesson.

 

[Truthmatters]

Oh for crying out loud why must it be something we did? Why must we, when attacked, flail ourselves looking for our short comings? If living in a rich successful country which was built by the blood and sweat of our grandparents make them hate us there is hardly anything we can do about it.

I refuse to feel bad about myself and my country because these idiots are ..............idiots.

I dont know if you are really a kid but here let me answer your question in a way that may actually help you understand.


It is part of the human brain design to try and understand a life changing event.


This is actually a very good trait that has helped humans survive thousands and thousands of years.


I cringe wen I hear someone like you say you DONT WANT TO UNDERSTAND something becuase you are mad at the person you now need to understand.


That is antoi self preservation.

do you understand that?


Here is the best thing we can doas individuals and as a people.


we need to understand why and how these kids rationalized a horrible act as something brave.


It is not for their benifit


It is for our own protection.


The right in this country right now just loves a setting of automatic stupid.


They actually used to be a pretty smart party.

not any more

 

[Pop23]

We weren't in the middle east bombing anyone on September 10, 2001.

Maybe not on that exact date, but we were before September 10, 2001. You need a history lesson.

So let's simply set back and let these victims exact their revenge right? Don't fight back, because they refuse to admit they got beat. Just let these thing happen until they feel satisfied right?

Saddam had ample opportunity to surrender before the bombs dropped. Not once, but twice. It was ultimately him and his supporters that caused those bombs to fall.

 

[Katzndogz]

America has absolutely no presence in Chechnya.

 

[Carla_Danger]

.... And the Blame US first card is in full swing.

I've offered several examples of actions the United States has taken that have most likely inflamed opinions against us in the Middle East, that provide excuses for the radicals there to both hate us and to spread that hate.

Are you denying any of them?

If so, which ones?

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Why don't you ask that poster if Polly wants a cracker? LOL!

 

[Carla_Danger]

We weren't in the middle east bombing anyone on September 10, 2001.

Maybe not on that exact date, but we were before September 10, 2001. You need a history lesson.

So let's simply set back and let these victims exact their revenge right? Don't fight back, because they refuse to admit they got beat. Just let these thing happen until they feel satisfied right?

Saddam had ample opportunity to surrender before the bombs dropped. Not once, but twice. It was ultimately him and his supporters that caused those bombs to fall.

I'm punching your straw man in the face. You're making an argument from an imaginary conversation. I never said any such thing.

 

[healthmyths]

wonder if they are contemplating this at the Friday Harvard Afternoon Tea or Happy Hour? That's all we heard when US was being attacked during the Bush years. Drink up 1% Harvard!!

I wouldn't be surprised if the silver-spooners at Harvard and MIT are providing safe-haven for the one bomber that is still alive, so they can pick his brain to answer that very question.

Pretty obvious none of you have ever read the Bible as it pertains to the beginnings of Islam.
Abram consented and had sexual intercourse with Hagar. The result of these actions created emnity between Hagar and Sarai. (Genesis 16:1–6)

After a harsh encounter with Sarai, Hagar fled toward Shur. En route, an angel of the Lord appeared to Hagar at the well of a spring. He instructed her to return and told her she would bear a son who “shall be a wild ass of a man: his hand shall be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the face of all his brethren.” She was told to call her son: Ishmael. Hagar then referred to God as “El-roi”, meaning that she had gone on seeing after God saw her. From that day, the well was called Beer-lahai-roi. She then did as she was instructed by returning to Abram in order to have her child. Abram was eighty-six years of age when Ishmael was born. (Genesis 16:7–16)

One such example is from Ibn Kathir whose account states that an angel tells the pregnant Hagar to name her child Ishmael and prophecies that, "His hand would be over everyone, and the hand of everyone would be against him. His brethren would rule over all the lands." Ibn Kathir comments that this foretells of Muhammad's leadership.[5]

So Muslims have had a hard on for Jews/Christians since that time when Abram kicked the slut and mother of his first child out of his life.
They've resented that since and has this document shows wants all non-muslims to be dead!

Hamas Charter of Allah: The Platform of the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas)
"For our struggle against the Jews is extremely wide-ranging and grave, so much so that it will need all the loyal efforts we can wield..
The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him! ..
And the Jews will not be pleased with thee, nor will the Christians, till thou follow their creed.
Say: Lo! the guidance of Allah [himself] is the Guidance.
Palestine Center - The Charter of the Hamas

So there you are folks.. why Muslims hate Jews/Christians want them dead all because Ismael Abram's son was kicked out of Abram's household by Abram's legitimate wife Sarah. The Muslims have since that time considered themselves slandered, betrayed of their heritage and basically 2nd class citizens!

These are the facts folks. History can't be changed!

 

[Carla_Danger]

America has absolutely no presence in Chechnya.

Excuse me, I was talking about the Middle and near Middle Eastern countries, who we've bullied for years. If this was motivated by religion, one can look at the hate we generate towards Islam. Let me also make this clear, there is no justification for any acts of terrorism, no matter who does it. I'm just pointing out possible motives.

 

[SuMar]

They hate us and want us dead.
Who?... Muslims.A lot of them.

Why....

Who the **** knows at this point.

In the name of Allah.

Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme - 8:39

Untitled Document​

 

[Redfish]

Those "1%" at Harvard ARE ALL LIBERALS LIKE YOU!

You may have a bad memory, but I sure as hell don't!

You are likely correct on that. And for years, I have been completly puzzled by the paradox of wealthy people wanting socialism. But the do. A lot of them.

At the same time, I've been completely puzzled by uneducated, poor, RWingers, in the Southern states, who are already on safety net programs, but rally against them. And they even want the "right to get paid less" laws, instead of good paying union jobs. Talk about cutting off your own nose to spite your face. LOL! You do realize the red states are the welfare states?

Your ignorance is showing, and its very ugly.

Who do you think is working at the Toyota, BMW, Honda, Mercedes, Subaru, Hyundai, Kia, and Nissan plants in the south? Blue collar americans---making good wages, good benefits, and NO unions. As to welfare, there are more people on welfare in California than all of the southern states combined.

Now, lets look at Detroit--------thats what you fools get from liberal government and unions------a rotting cesspool that was once a great city.

take your welfare and your unions and stick them up your sorry ass.