What are out of the network providers?

[Vox]

I have said nothing about Florida Blue, so you have identified yourself as a liar of sufficient authority to cause Democrats to salivate at the possibility of nominating you as a candidate to replace the current Liar-in-Chief in 2016!

you supported the one who is lying about how great obamacare is - and he has a proof!!! under Florida Blue obamacare plans HE SAYS that anybody will get care ANYWHERE in the US.

don't you want to learn more about such a great possibility?

you supported the one who is lying about how great obamacare is - and he has a proof!!! under Florida Blue obamacare plans HE SAYS that anybody will get care ANYWHERE in the US.

Show where I support the ACA as written kid....

You keep digging a deeper hole...

not the obamacare. the poster who states that HIS obamacare plans which he is selling to the customers as Florida Blue are so great that they are being taken nationwide and considered in the network.

But he does not want to share the list of the miniscule amount of providers who are not considered in the network for those great obamacare plans he is selling.
you have said that I should not demand a link from him.

don't you want to find out about a single miracle this crap obamacare so far provided ( per Antares)?

 

[Vox]

Over the years I've been enrolled in several health care plans. In EVERY case there was a list of "network providers", meaning those who had agreed to accept miniscule payment and upon whose skills you could call at minimum cost to yourself in the form of co-pays and deductibles.

There was no such thing as an "out of network" list as such a list would necessarily include every provider everyhwere who had not signed their own death warrant whether the insurer had ever heard of them or not. NO provider signs up to be "out of network". They just don't sign up.

Then there should be a list for in the network.

see, the fight started as I pointed out that this crap obamacare is basically ruining anybody who is considered a middle class. In my state Florida the obamacare plans under Florida Blue can have the annual out of the pocket max 25K for a family and 12.500 for individual - for out of the network providers.
Since the news from other states have reported that those in the network providers are severely restricted - there is an understandable concern that one can buy insurance and basically ripped off if one really needs care at any serious medical center ( for a serious illness) and such can be in the other state.
Antares got all pissed that Florida Blue is going to be accepted nationwide no matter what - which is kind of unusual for obamacare, taking into consideration the reports quite to the contrary from other states.

So it is only natural to ask - how does he know what is going to happen with obamacare plans under Florida Blue?
If he knows - please share with us, as if these plans are so good, that is an obvious exception for this crap obamacare.

But he doesn't want to share . so either he doesn't know ( as all of us don;t) and does not admit it or he knows it is very restricted and does not want to admit it as well.

which is OK, if he just won't pompously proclaim at the very beginning that paying 25K out of the network max is impossible with Florida Blue because "everybody everywhere" is accepting it.

 

[Antares]

vox you are no more than a child crying "nuh-uh" to everything that proves you wrong.

Go play with the children....you certainly are not qualified to speak with the adults.

Shoo....kid

 

[depotoo]

Wow kid, Obamacare hasn't been around for 10 years, grow your punk ass up.

An "out of network" provider is a provider who CHOOSES not to work within a given network and agree to said networks "negotiated" rates.

it is just that simple you simpleton.

except it were you, idiot, who were pompously parading your 10 years in the insurance industry as a proof you know it all about obamacare.

yet you missed the simple fact pointed out to you repeatedly - that the limit of 6.500 per year does not apply for the out of the network providers.

You also do not know what those out of the network providers are.

which means ANY provider can be out of the network.

LOL, I feel sorry for the people you hang with....you are an idiot.

While ANY provider could be out of network, very FEW are.

EVERYBODY that matters takes BCBS....kid.

Everybody that matters? Really? Well, BCBS has decided not to cover our best hospital/trauma unit out west in Palm Beach county recently. Why? Because the hospital won't accept the scraps BCBS is offering them. Now people out west will have to travel as far as an hour and 15 minutes to get to a really good hospital and trauma unit.

 

[HenryBHough]

Why in hell is Florida even a state anymore?

What ain't Hatian or Cuban about it is turning Mexican.

 

[Vox]

except it were you, idiot, who were pompously parading your 10 years in the insurance industry as a proof you know it all about obamacare.

yet you missed the simple fact pointed out to you repeatedly - that the limit of 6.500 per year does not apply for the out of the network providers.

You also do not know what those out of the network providers are.

which means ANY provider can be out of the network.

LOL, I feel sorry for the people you hang with....you are an idiot.

While ANY provider could be out of network, very FEW are.

EVERYBODY that matters takes BCBS....kid.

Everybody that matters? Really? Well, BCBS has decided not to cover our best hospital/trauma unit out west in Palm Beach county recently. Why? Because the hospital won't accept the scraps BCBS is offering them. Now people out west will have to travel as far as an hour and 15 minutes to get to a really good hospital and trauma unit.

Antares got cornered as he does not know what is and what is not in the network for specific plans under Florida Blue.
Instead of simply stating - I don't know - get all pompously "offended" and looks like idiot.

and your specific example is just ONE in the hundreds of thousands of other exceptions, and which will determine exactly that this crap obamacare will not help people when they really need care or will ruin them financially.
The amount of annual out of the pocket max for the individual to be 12.500 and for the family - 25K for the services in out-of the network facility ( a family in a car crash airlifted to your mentioned hospital will be owing 25K to the hospital before ANY insurance kicks in ) is a financial ruin right there.

 

[Vox]

Why in hell is Florida even a state anymore?

What ain't Hatian or Cuban about it is turning Mexican.

don't be so bitter - our difference was less than 1% a year ago, it is the most swing state from the swings states.

 

[depotoo]

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Have at it kid.....but you better keep your pants up around my progenitors or you'll contend with me.

You don't want that.

no-no-no, that is not what is the question.

what is out of the network list of providers for Florida Blue.

it should be easy for you - as you state that Florida Blue, unlike all this crappy obamacare plans in other states is going to be taken nationwide and considered in the network !

I believe you.

You are a professional.

Just provide the link to those which are considered out of the network providers.

should be easy for such a professional as you are

Take my link and prove your point kid...it is your negative.

I gave you what you asked for...

I'm looking for a: Doctor
Doctor Type: Specialist
Specialty Type: Orthopedic Surgery
Doctor's Last Name: PANCHAL
Plan: BlueCare (HMO)
Zip Code: 33411
Located Within: 50 miles

The following search parameters did not match any providers.
I'm looking for a: Health Care Facility
Facility Type: Hospitals
Facility Name: GLADES GENERAL HOSPITAL
Plan: BlueCare (HMO)
Zip Code: 33411
Located Within: 50 miles

 

[Vox]

no-no-no, that is not what is the question.

what is out of the network list of providers for Florida Blue.

it should be easy for you - as you state that Florida Blue, unlike all this crappy obamacare plans in other states is going to be taken nationwide and considered in the network !

I believe you.

You are a professional.

Just provide the link to those which are considered out of the network providers.

should be easy for such a professional as you are

Take my link and prove your point kid...it is your negative.

I gave you what you asked for...

I'm looking for a: Doctor
Doctor Type: Specialist
Specialty Type: Orthopedic Surgery
Doctor's Last Name: PANCHAL
Plan: BlueCare (HMO)
Zip Code: 33411
Located Within: 50 miles

The following search parameters did not match any providers.
I'm looking for a: Health Care Facility
Facility Type: Hospitals
Facility Name: GLADES GENERAL HOSPITAL
Plan: BlueCare (HMO)
Zip Code: 33411
Located Within: 50 miles

doesn't cover ANY of the major US Cancer centers as well
Neither Anderson, nor Sloan Kettering.

 

[HenryBHough]

doesn't cover ANY of the major US Cancer centers as well
Neither Anderson, nor Sloan Kettering.

Of course not.

If people started surviving cancer they'd live too long and bankrupt the Social Security system. See, it's all to the "greater good"!

 

[Vox]

doesn't cover ANY of the major US Cancer centers as well
Neither Anderson, nor Sloan Kettering.

Of course not.

If people started surviving cancer they'd live too long and bankrupt the Social Security system. See, it's all to the "greater good"!

I know it DOES NOT. The whole point of having "in the network" is the ability to NOT COVER the needed care.
It was there before, but it is much more expanded under this crap obamacare.

that was the whole point of yesterday's fight with Antares, who, generally, is more or less reasonable, but when the discussion touches the company he is working for, his thinking abilities become obliterated. Like in obamabots, which he is NOT.

 

[Antares]

LOL, I feel sorry for the people you hang with....you are an idiot.

While ANY provider could be out of network, very FEW are.

EVERYBODY that matters takes BCBS....kid.

Everybody that matters? Really? Well, BCBS has decided not to cover our best hospital/trauma unit out west in Palm Beach county recently. Why? Because the hospital won't accept the scraps BCBS is offering them. Now people out west will have to travel as far as an hour and 15 minutes to get to a really good hospital and trauma unit.

Antares got cornered as he does not know what is and what is not in the network for specific plans under Florida Blue.
Instead of simply stating - I don't know - get all pompously "offended" and looks like idiot.

and your specific example is just ONE in the hundreds of thousands of other exceptions, and which will determine exactly that this crap obamacare will not help people when they really need care or will ruin them financially.
The amount of annual out of the pocket max for the individual to be 12.500 and for the family - 25K for the services in out-of the network facility ( a family in a car crash airlifted to your mentioned hospital will be owing 25K to the hospital before ANY insurance kicks in ) is a financial ruin right there.

You aren't intelligent enough to corner anyone kid.
No, a family car crash wouldn't do it....emergencies are counted as "in network" where ever they are.

Your fixation on "out of network" providers is stupid....your illiterate position is really laughable...you have done nothing but parrot every point I made...

You claimed the in and out of network providers is a new thing, it isn't, it has ALWAYS been that way.

Rage on kid

 

[Vox]

Everybody that matters? Really? Well, BCBS has decided not to cover our best hospital/trauma unit out west in Palm Beach county recently. Why? Because the hospital won't accept the scraps BCBS is offering them. Now people out west will have to travel as far as an hour and 15 minutes to get to a really good hospital and trauma unit.

Antares got cornered as he does not know what is and what is not in the network for specific plans under Florida Blue.
Instead of simply stating - I don't know - get all pompously "offended" and looks like idiot.

and your specific example is just ONE in the hundreds of thousands of other exceptions, and which will determine exactly that this crap obamacare will not help people when they really need care or will ruin them financially.
The amount of annual out of the pocket max for the individual to be 12.500 and for the family - 25K for the services in out-of the network facility ( a family in a car crash airlifted to your mentioned hospital will be owing 25K to the hospital before ANY insurance kicks in ) is a financial ruin right there.

You aren't intelligent enough to corner anyone kid.
No, a family car crash wouldn't do it....emergencies are counted as "in network" where ever they are.

Your fixation on "out of network" providers is stupid....your illiterate position is really laughable...you have done nothing but parrot every point I made...

You claimed the in and out of network providers is a new thing, it isn't, it has ALWAYS been that way.

Rage on kid

oh, now you are simply lying when cornered

no, I did not claim out of the network providers is a new thing, don't lie, I said I did not have to deal with this shit previously and under obamacare plans the networks are so restricted that for any REAL medical necessity one would need to pay out of the pocket tens of thousands of dollars.

which was proven true not only by me, but by others.

you got cornered and you got pissed.

now you also LIE.

what else is new - macho boy who does not know how to lose with honor