What About The Children?

[toobfreak]

But but but Biden.
That makes it ok right?

No, that just points out NUMERO UNO TO BLAME.
You've had four years to complain, why did you wait until now?

 

[Thunk]

Fact of the matter is that they AREN'T our responsibility

I understand your point & I agree...but if you saw a child drowning...could you just keep walking & say "Not MY responsibility"?

That's just not in my nature.

 

[toobfreak]

Yup...I recognize the pink jacket & her face blurred.

I thought you said you didn't drink.

 

[Coyote]

So every time an adult commits a crime and is separated from their family to go to prison, you think that cruel?
Were you complaining when Obumma built all those cages at the border and separated families?

1. Is there a 100% policy of separation?
2. Are accommodations made for non violent offenders awaiting trial but not convicted of anything?
3. Is this the policy for misdeamenors?
4. Is there family available to take the children and if so are they allowed to?
5. Was this policy (forced removal of children) designed solely as a “deterrent” ?

Is the person’s immigration status tbe primary reason for removing children!

So some of these kids were mules let in by democrats to run drugs.

Nice strawman.

ICE agents are trained to identify children who might not legit. Politicians,who’s aim is to punish illegals through family seperation, are not.

Perhaps the problem is that you just suddenly noticed?
Meanwhile for the past several years under Joe Biden, children have been subverted, experimented on, surgically altered, fed drugs and manipulated by schools to alienate them from their parents. Where were you?

Now you suddenly care about them because Joe Biden LOST 300,000 of them that should not be here in the first place and the republicans are bringing it up?

Where have you been? Clearly not in the loop. Trump, after winning 2016, instated a policy of 100% separation of families for expressly stated punitive purposes. Children were lost and parents deported without their children.

I didn’t “just notice”, I’ve been loud and clear from the beginning. I’m no big fan of Biden, but Biden didn’t intentionally impose a policy of removing all children from their parents as punishment and intent matters. The only thing that caused him to rescind his policy was enough if his base (mostly Catholics) got disgusted and started protesting.

Stop defending the abhorant with your but what about arguments.

 

[Coyote]

How does a democrat, who fights for the RIGHT to abort their child, cut them up and suck them out alive, get bothered by or then complain about a child being separated from its mother? And maybe the mother should have considered this before coming here?

I think you need to write a letter to JOE BIDEN and ASK.
Have you tried calling the White House?
Why isn't Kammy Harris all on top of this?
Is Kammy on top of anything at all (I mean besides whoever she is sleeping with these days in order to gain political leverage)?

So, at least you are upfront about it, in amongst all the redirection and diversion…you seem fine with punishing the child for the parent’s sin.

 

[Coyote]

No, that just points out NUMERO UNO TO BLAME.
You've had four years to complain, why did you wait until now?

Dude. I complained from the day that was instituted. 2017. Where were you?

 

[Thunk]

I thought you said you didn't drink.

Well I did have one beer with a hotdog this summer...but I didn't tell my cardiologist

Damn...a beer sounds kinda goodly...I wish I had one

 

[Road Runner]

you seem fine with punishing the child for the parent’s sin.

No, that's abortion.

 

[Coyote]

Tom Homan has pledged this will not happen. Democrats allowed that while Republicans will not. They can take the baby with them. Problem solved.

It was a Republican policy to separate them and then deport parents without reuniting them. Your projection, while not surprising is bizarre.

 

[Road Runner]

It was a Republican policy to separate them and then deport parents without reuniting them.

I wouldn't trust those so called parents with a goldfish.

 

[Coyote]

…

No, that's abortion.

You are supposed to be the party of family values. How do you reconcile that with forced seperation?

'Like a kidnapping': Migrant family separated under Trump reunited after four years

Campaigners say the Trump-era policy has caused irreparable harm for migrant families years later.

www.bbc.com

 

[Road Runner]

…

You are supposed to be the party of family values. How do you reconcile that with forced seperation?

'Like a kidnapping': Migrant family separated under Trump reunited after four years

Campaigners say the Trump-era policy has caused irreparable harm for migrant families years later.

www.bbc.com

Would you let your two year old cross the border unsupervised by him or herself? These parents deserve to be separated from these poor innocent children that deserve much better loving parents than the ones who endanger them. Even if they're not coming by themselves they're still dragging their kids into this and in the end making them suffer for it.

 

[Coyote]

I wouldn't trust those so called parents with a goldfish.

So immigrant families are what, less than human…or something …solely because of their immigrant status? That means they somehow deserve to have their children taken solely because immigrated illegally?

They didn’t murder anyone, steal anything, assault or rape anyone but solely because of their immigrant status their children should be taken.

That is the sort of thing you would expect in an authoritarian regime.

 

[toobfreak]

I understand your point & I agree...but if you saw a child drowning...could you just keep walking & say "Not MY responsibility"?

That is very different. This would be an individual child suffering an acute accident contingent on ME to act.
But what Joe Biden has forced upon us is a calamity of 300,000 lost and separated children!
So:

1. First I must find the responsible party that made it happen: JOE BIDEN.
2. Then I must find who let all these (unaccompanied?) children enter the country? JOE BIDEN.
3. And if they were not unaccompanied, then who separated them with no documentation connecting them to the adfults who brought them? JOE BIDEN AND IS BORDER CZAR QUEEN KAMALA HARRIS.
4. Any why is no one reporting hundreds of children wandering the streets crying?
5. And why has the administration and media buried this issue until weeks from leaving office?
6. And how can we solve this problem when
   • We can't even find them?
   • We can't afford to solve this? It costs over $300,000 to raise a kid today. That is NINETY BILLION DOLLARS to clothe, feed, and educate these kids (not including housing). So clearly, they must go back.

This may sound cruel, but I am a man of LOGIC who refuses to let emotions influence me, and I cannot see these kids (if we can ever kind them) as individuals, but as a GROUP, a single PROBLEM. A problem foisted on America by democrats and JOE BIDEN. These kids (when located), need taken care of their immediate needs then returned to their parent countries from which they came (which I assume bears responsibility because they knew they were coming/sent here in the first place.

America CANNOT be the spittoon of the world to dump all of THEIR problems into lest we soon become drug down as bad as they are.
To do anything else would be like having a robber rob my house then my saying it was OK because THEY were poor.
These kids may be (for the most part) innocent pawns, but it isn't WEE who made them pawns, it is the people who BROUGHT THEM HERE and JOE BIDEN.

 

[Coyote]

Would you let your two year old cross the border unsupervised by him or herself?

We are talking about families that crossed together.

These parents deserve to be separated from these poor innocent children that deserve much better loving parents than the ones who endanger them.

So now you are saying parents crossed with their kids and deserve to be separated because their kid crossed alone? That makes no sense.

Even if they're not coming by themselves they're still dragging their kids into this and in the end making them suffer for it.

Immigrants throughout history have made incredibly dangerous and courageous journeys to try for a better life here. Why is it that the parent who made a dangerous journey legally is considered fit to keep their child but the parent who made the same journey illegally unfit?

Admit it RR. This was an unjustly cruel and unnecessary policy. What effect do you think it had on those vulnerable children to be torn from their parents, the only source of stability and love they had and thrust into a warehouse situation of dorms and tent cities?

The Impact of Immigrant Family Separation - Social Work Today Magazine

National newsmagazine committed to enhancing the entire social work profession by exploring its difficult issues, new challenges, and current successes.

www.socialworktoday.com

 

[toobfreak]

Are accommodations made for non violent offenders awaiting trial but not convicted of anything?

Look, all these people coming here are CRIMINALS. End of story. They deserve no accommodations. They should have been stopped, arrested and turned back AT THE BORDER. End of story. Not bused in, flown in, and put up in HOTELS. END OF STORY.

Stop defending the abhorant with your but what about arguments.

I defend no one. As I point out, the buck STOPS WITH JOE BIDEN.
He should be arrested upon leaving office, and every asset every penny he has taken and used to help finance solving this mess while he spends the next 40 years in jail.

 

[toobfreak]

So, at least you are upfront about it,

Yep. JOE BIDEN IS RESPONSIBLE.

in amongst all the redirection and diversion…

I've redirected or diverted nothing. Is that your line whenever someone departs from your attempts to misdirect blame from JOE BIDEN and KAMMY HARRIS???

you seem fine with punishing the child for the parent’s sin.

The children were brought here as PAWNS. They were left here unaccompanied AS PAWNS. They were used by the democrats AS PAWNS. I did not make them a pawn. I am not punishing them, Joe Biden punished them, democrats punished them, and whoever brought them here punished them.

HOW DARE YOU try to make it MY responsibility and guilt trip now to suck it all up and take on all of the responsibility, expense and blame! Find the kids, feed the kids, give them what they absolutely need then RETURN THEM TO WHEREVER THEY CAME FROM who tried to dump them on us.
I am not the toilet of the world to be pissed on with all of their undesirables just because they are kids.
There are 193 countries, why aren't the 192 other countries worried about these kids?
I REFUSE to be USED as a scapegoat.
These are kids, they are tough, when they get home among their own family again, in a year they will forget all about it.
We must BREAK THE CYCLE of umnlimited illegal immigration without documentation and due process to stop people from coming here en masse by the millions as their solution to their problems when the REAL solution is to reform their OWN countries, create opportunity THERE. Otherwise, the problem NEVER ENDS.

LOOK, Mrs,. C, THE WORLD IS FULL OF SICK, HUNGRY AND POOR PEOPLE!!!
THAT IS NOT MY PROBLEM, MY FAULT, NOR MY RESPONSIBILITY TO TRY TO FIX!
Or soon there will be no America left for anyone.
Americas does not have an unlimited capacity to just keep giving, when is somebody going to give US something?
Besides their hungry and poor.

The only viable solution is for these other countries to raise themselves up and create viable economies and opportunity for THEIR OWN PEOPLE.

 

[Woodznutz]

Except that a lot of them have been separated from their families, to be used as drug mules and as props to get even more illegals across the border....No doubt they're also being physically and sexually abused.

Those poor victimized children need all the help that can be rendered to them.

We have our own children that need attention.

 

[toobfreak]

Dude. I complained from the day that was instituted. 2017. Where were you?

Apparently not living and dying on your every post?
I haven't even seen you around here in months!

 

[toobfreak]

Well I did have one beer with a hotdog this summer...but I didn't tell my cardiologist
Damn...a beer sounds kinda goodly...I wish I had one

Beer is too expensive now, too many cans and bottles. I prefer the hard stuff, rum, whiskey, brandy, vodka, gin and the like.
Soon, it'll be egg nog time!!!