"Weather Alert Fatigue"....Yeah, it's a thing

[1srelluc]

We are having a mild thunderstorm in my AO and there has already been three NWS Weather Alerts come across on my TV.....Enough already!

It was the same thing yesterday! A storm moving at an estimated 40 mph is not gonna park itself and dump inches worth of rain.

Sure, tornado alerts I can understand, but not for your run of the mill line of fast moving thunderstorms.

 

[Papageorgio]

I am Las Vegas this week and they have had a heat warning all week, and the residents say it goes on all summer, it is way over done.

 

[Rigby5]

We are having a mild thunderstorm in my AO and there has already been three NWS Weather Alerts come across on my TV.....Enough already!

It was the same thing yesterday! A storm moving at an estimated 40 mph is not gonna park itself and dump inches worth of rain.

Sure, tornado alerts I can understand, but not for your run of the mill line of fast moving thunderstorms.


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Its not that simple.
Winds can be 40 mph, but they can be cyclonic and the actual storm standing still.
And if rain starts water moving at 20 mph, and the storm happens to also move with it in the same direction, also at 20 mph, then the water will continually accumulate into a huge flood.

The point being that these are thing experts know and we do not, so we need better weather information than we are getting now.

The only problem I have is who should do it, since it often depends on the area.
So maybe it should be state or local, and not federal?

 

[Donald H]

I am Las Vegas this week and they have had a heat warning all week, and the residents say it goes on all summer, it is way over done.

Only the god can change the weather!

As an example, HE flooded the entire earth under 29,000 feet of rain water!

Only the clams on the top of Everest survived it!

 

[toobfreak]

We are having a mild thunderstorm in my AO and there has already been three NWS Weather Alerts come across on my TV.....Enough already!

BEEP! BEEP! BEEP!

I know what you mean. I have sat watching a documentary for a full hour only to have it come to the closing minutes just when they are giving their findings and conclusions only to have it all cut out with a NWS weather bulletin and miss the ending I waited all hour for.

BEEP! BEEP! BEEP!

And there isn't even any weather outside.

I've had severe wind advisories when there isn't even a puff of breeze.

I've had storm and tornado watches or warnings and flood advisories issued when the air is calm and there isn't even any rain going on (yes, I know exactly how tornadoes appear).

And I've had the power go out when there isn't even a storm in the area. I get so many weather bulletins on certain channels that I don't even pay attention to them anymore. Some weather bulletins are for weather not even in my state!

I'm sick of it. I want to opt out. I'm sick of the post office mailing me shit I don't want but have to deal with just so the PO can make a buck, and I'm sick of getting a weather advisory about weather not even happening or not in my area, or not even serious, just because some station thinks it gets them ratings.

 

[jackflash]

We are having a mild thunderstorm in my AO and there has already been three NWS Weather Alerts come across on my TV.....Enough already!

It was the same thing yesterday! A storm moving at an estimated 40 mph is not gonna park itself and dump inches worth of rain.

Sure, tornado alerts I can understand, but not for your run of the mill line of fast moving thunderstorms.


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[1srelluc]

BEEP! BEEP! BEEP!

I know what you mean. I have sat watching a documentary for a full hour only to have it come to the closing minutes just when they are giving their findings and conclusions only to have it all cut out with a NWS weather bulletin and miss the ending I waited all hour for.

BEEP! BEEP! BEEP!

And there isn't even any weather outside.

I've had severe wind advisories when there isn't even a puff of breeze.

I've had storm and tornado watches or warnings and flood advisories issued when the air is calm and there isn't even any rain going on (yes, I know exactly how tornadoes appear).

And I've had the power go out when there isn't even a storm in the area. I get so many weather bulletins on certain channels that I don't even pay attention to them anymore. Some weather bulletins are for weather not even in my state!

I'm sick of it. I want to opt out. I'm sick of the post office mailing me shit I don't want but have to deal with just so the PO can make a buck, and I'm sick of getting a weather advisory about weather not even happening or not in my area, or not even serious, just because some station thinks it gets them ratings.

Yeah, I was trying to watch Gangs of NY and the third one hit right when the shelling of NYC started.

By the time it was done they were rolling the credits. The "torrential downpour" did not even hardly get the road wet out front.

I contacted my cable company last year about opting out and they said they couldn't due to FCC requirements.

 

[1srelluc]

Its not that simple.
Winds can be 40 mph, but they can be cyclonic and the actual storm standing still.
And if rain starts water moving at 20 mph, and the storm happens to also move with it in the same direction, also at 20 mph, then the water will continually accumulate into a huge flood.

The point being that these are thing experts know and we do not, so we need better weather information than we are getting now.

The only problem I have is who should do it, since it often depends on the area.
So maybe it should be state or local, and not federal?

BS....I did just fine without them for most of my adult life.....We are just another casualty of the nanny state.

 

[toobfreak]

I contacted my cable company last year about opting out and they said they couldn't due to FCC requirements.

That's bullshit. I have one channel here issuing a NWS bulletin ten times a week while other channels are posting nothing.

• There is no reason why they can't run the banner above or below the picture shrinking it instead of OVER the picture covering part of the program up.
• Do they ever run these alerts over commercials? I don't think so. They save them to ruin the programming.
• Three beeps is enough, after that, we can read the rest, we don't need it read to us (and repeated) while the program audio is blanked out. There should be an option on your TV to turn these features on and off.
• And they only issue these warnings over television, never the internet nor streaming services.

 

[1srelluc]

That's bullshit. I have one channel here issuing a NWS bulletin ten times a week while other channels are posting nothing.

• There is no reason why they can't run the banner above or below the picture shrinking it instead of OVER the picture covering part of the program up.
• Do they ever run these alerts over commercials? I don't think so. They save them to ruin the programming.
• Three beeps is enough, after that, we can read the rest, we don't need it read to us (and repeated) while the program audio is blanked out. There should be an option on your TV to turn these features on and off.
• And they only issue these warnings over television, never the internet nor streaming services.

That's the way it used to be done but not in the past few years. Same cable company (Comcast/Xfinity) so i don't know.

 

[toobfreak]

That's the way it used to be done but not in the past few years. Same cable company (Comcast/Xfinity) so i don't know.

Comcast blows the big fat one.

 

[Moonglow]

We are having a mild thunderstorm in my AO and there has already been three NWS Weather Alerts come across on my TV.....Enough already!

It was the same thing yesterday! A storm moving at an estimated 40 mph is not gonna park itself and dump inches worth of rain.

Sure, tornado alerts I can understand, but not for your run of the mill line of fast moving thunderstorms.


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The AI is flailing like an inflatable flailing arm balloon.

 

[Foxfyre]

We are having a mild thunderstorm in my AO and there has already been three NWS Weather Alerts come across on my TV.....Enough already!

It was the same thing yesterday! A storm moving at an estimated 40 mph is not gonna park itself and dump inches worth of rain.

Sure, tornado alerts I can understand, but not for your run of the mill line of fast moving thunderstorms.


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It's a damned if they do and damned if they don't kind of thing. For instance, in the Texas flood area the weather service was looking for roughly 6 inches of rain in the heaviest downpours. Which is why mandatory evacuations were not ordered along the Guadalupe that they expected to be out of its banks as it always is in conditions like that. But nobody expected it to rise 26 feet in less than an hour.

So do people want to be advised when conditions are right for tornadoes to form even though they rarely, if ever, are threatened by a tornado? If Doppler picks up on one, shouldn't people be advised of it?

And yet a great many damaging and deadly tornadoes were not forecast until they were doing their worst. The folks burned out in Paradise CA had no warning. Many avalanche victims don't know of danger until they see it coming at them.

Weather forecasting is an inexact/imperfect science. And the danger of too many warnings, too many instructions to take precautions, too many orders to evacuate et al when nothing ever happens does make people tend to shrug off or ignore the warnings.

I don't know where the happy medium on this is.

 

[1srelluc]

If Doppler picks up on one, shouldn't people be advised of it?

I covered that in my OP.

 

[whitehall]

Remember the Christmas tsunami in 04? About 230,000 people died. Nobody was ready for a flash flood on the 4th of July between 12 midnight and 4 AM either. Fact of life.

 

[Dekster]

We have had several thunderstorms over the last few weeks that have been very hit or miss depending on where you live in the area. I had a gullywasher a few days ago but my sister who lives not that far away barely got any rain out of the same storm. Last week she had one with heavy rain that knocked out her area's power but we just had a few minutes of wind It is a bit odd how very very localized the storms are being this year.

 

[petro]

Weather guy preempts all programming for hours, even if the storm doesn't directly affect us.
Frankly I turn on something else.

No warning does any good in the middle of the night, as I could sleep through an atomic blast.

Tornado hits in the night, I probably die.