Weapons of war in civilian hands

[SassyIrishLass]

Define that please. What makes something a "weapon of war"? What makes a gun a "military grade" weapon?

If by "weapons of war" they mean actually used in war, that includes:
Revolvers
Shotguns
Bolt-Action Rifles
Leaver-Action Rifles
Muskets
Swords
Knives
Clubs/Bats
Axes

What weapon has NOT been used in war?

AR15s.

Well, that's not quite true. An AR-15 is simply a modified M16/M4 that is limited to semiautomatic fire.

Edit: Now that I think about it, it's the other way around. The AR-15 was around first. The military modified them for their use.

That's not correct. The military developed the M-16 for use in the Vietnam war. The civilian version came later.

And has proven to be really good at killing lots of people really fast.

So can a 9MM....what's your plan for that one?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

So can a 9MM....what's your plan for that one?

To ban everything and confiscate, like you said.

 

[Timmy]

Pray tell the difference tween the .308 version vs the AR mow down the crowd version ?

You have literally never even seen a gun, have you?

5.56 is too small for most deer. Not Texas Whitetails, but most deer. A .308 is probably one of the most popular calibers for hunting.

My first deer was taken with a shotgun...that gun Timmy deems safe

You want a clean kill right ? Don’t want. Bullet that me going to destroy all that meat.

But if you are killing people , then you want as much bodily damage as possible . That’s the difference.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Pray tell the difference tween the .308 version vs the AR mow down the crowd version ?

You have literally never even seen a gun, have you?

5.56 is too small for most deer. Not Texas Whitetails, but most deer. A .308 is probably one of the most popular calibers for hunting.

My first deer was taken with a shotgun...that gun Timmy deems safe

You want a clean kill right ? Don’t want. Bullet that me going to destroy all that meat.

But if you are killing people , then you want as much bodily damage as possible . That’s the difference.

Timmy Timmy Timmy you've never hunted a day in your life....one uses a slug in a shotgun to kill a deer

 

[Brain357]

Define that please. What makes something a "weapon of war"? What makes a gun a "military grade" weapon?

If by "weapons of war" they mean actually used in war, that includes:
Revolvers
Shotguns
Bolt-Action Rifles
Leaver-Action Rifles
Muskets
Swords
Knives
Clubs/Bats
Axes

What weapon has NOT been used in war?

AR15s.

Well, that's not quite true. An AR-15 is simply a modified M16/M4 that is limited to semiautomatic fire.

Edit: Now that I think about it, it's the other way around. The AR-15 was around first. The military modified them for their use.

That's not correct. The military developed the M-16 for use in the Vietnam war. The civilian version came later.

And has proven to be really good at killing lots of people really fast.

So can a 9MM....what's your plan for that one?

Limit magazine capacity.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

If by "weapons of war" they mean actually used in war, that includes:
Revolvers
Shotguns
Bolt-Action Rifles
Leaver-Action Rifles
Muskets
Swords
Knives
Clubs/Bats
Axes

What weapon has NOT been used in war?

AR15s.

Well, that's not quite true. An AR-15 is simply a modified M16/M4 that is limited to semiautomatic fire.

Edit: Now that I think about it, it's the other way around. The AR-15 was around first. The military modified them for their use.

That's not correct. The military developed the M-16 for use in the Vietnam war. The civilian version came later.

And has proven to be really good at killing lots of people really fast.

So can a 9MM....what's your plan for that one?

Limit magazine capacity.

I've already told you someone can change clips in less than 3 seconds. It won't help

 

[bripat9643]

Someone...anyone, give Timmy an example of a more deadly weapon than an AR.

Go.

M-16
AK47
AMP-69
CZ 805 BREN
Heckler & Koch HK33
SAR 80
SIG Sauer SIG516
RPG-7
TOW anti-tank missile
155 MM howitzer
Cruise missile
SLBM
ICBM

 

[bripat9643]

Well, that's not quite true. An AR-15 is simply a modified M16/M4 that is limited to semiautomatic fire.

Edit: Now that I think about it, it's the other way around. The AR-15 was around first. The military modified them for their use.

That's not correct. The military developed the M-16 for use in the Vietnam war. The civilian version came later.

And has proven to be really good at killing lots of people really fast.

So can a 9MM....what's your plan for that one?

Limit magazine capacity.

I've already told you someone can change clips in less than 3 seconds. It won't help

That will just make it more difficult for Civilians to defend themselves. They aren't going to carry a backpack full of spare magazines around, but a mass shooter will.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

If by "weapons of war" they mean actually used in war, that includes:
Revolvers
Shotguns
Bolt-Action Rifles
Leaver-Action Rifles
Muskets
Swords
Knives
Clubs/Bats
Axes

What weapon has NOT been used in war?

AR15s.

Well, that's not quite true. An AR-15 is simply a modified M16/M4 that is limited to semiautomatic fire.

Edit: Now that I think about it, it's the other way around. The AR-15 was around first. The military modified them for their use.

That's not correct. The military developed the M-16 for use in the Vietnam war. The civilian version came later.

And has proven to be really good at killing lots of people really fast.

So can a 9MM....what's your plan for that one?

Limit magazine capacity.

Useless move. Anyone with a little practice can swap magazines in less than 5 seconds

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

That will just make it more difficult for Civilians to defend themselves. They aren't going to carry a backpack full of spare magazines around, but a mass shooter will.

in a home defense situation, it really limits those defending their homes.

The average number of shots fired in a shootout should cause many of us lots of concern about magazine capacity limits.

How Many Rounds Are Fired On Average In A Gunfight?

 

[iceberg]

They have no idea the carnage a shooter with a shotgun could cause

Right . But it’s not as effective of a mass killing machine like Cruz’s AR 15 .

The VA Tech shooter used a Glock 9MM to kill 33...planning on banning them too?

No . Handguns area great tool for home + personal protection . As they are designed for.

You don't think if you ban AR's shooters won't choose another gun? Do you even see where I'm going with this?

True , but another gun would most likely not be as deadly .

They shoot softer bullets?

And you are this argumentative over a "most likely"? Why not do some homework before being against something on "most likely"

 

[iceberg]

Well, that's not quite true. An AR-15 is simply a modified M16/M4 that is limited to semiautomatic fire.

Edit: Now that I think about it, it's the other way around. The AR-15 was around first. The military modified them for their use.

That's not correct. The military developed the M-16 for use in the Vietnam war. The civilian version came later.

And has proven to be really good at killing lots of people really fast.

So can a 9MM....what's your plan for that one?

Limit magazine capacity.

Useless move. Anyone with a little practice can swap magazines in less than 5 seconds

And now we have fixed mag speed loaders. Reload faster than swap mags

 

[Harpy Eagle]

That's not correct. The military developed the M-16 for use in the Vietnam war. The civilian version came later.

And has proven to be really good at killing lots of people really fast.

So can a 9MM....what's your plan for that one?

Limit magazine capacity.

Useless move. Anyone with a little practice can swap magazines in less than 5 seconds

And now we have fixed mag speed loaders. Reload faster than swap mags

Not to mention that the higher the capacity of the magazine the higher the chance for a jam or misfire.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Not to mention that the higher the capacity of the magazine the higher the chance for a jam or misfire.

That's why the military uses belt-fed for high-capacity, rather than drums.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Not to mention that the higher the capacity of the magazine the higher the chance for a jam or misfire.

That's why the military uses belt-fed for high-capacity, rather than drums.

And why we don't use high capacity for the M16s.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Define that please. What makes something a "weapon of war"? What makes a gun a "military grade" weapon?

well if you get to the meat of it

those are the firearms the framers meant for the "people" to keep and bear as needed

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Define that please. What makes something a "weapon of war"? What makes a gun a "military grade" weapon?

well if you get to the meat of it

those are the firearms the framers meant for the "people" to keep and bear as needed

We are armed, but nobody could ever accuse the people of this nation of being disciplined.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

We are armed, but nobody could ever accuse the people of this nation of being disciplined.

No shit. Jeez. Not in word or deed.

We should discipline more and ban guns less.

 

[yiostheoy]

And has proven to be really good at killing lots of people really fast.

So can a 9MM....what's your plan for that one?

Limit magazine capacity.

Useless move. Anyone with a little practice can swap magazines in less than 5 seconds

And now we have fixed mag speed loaders. Reload faster than swap mags

Not to mention that the higher the capacity of the magazine the higher the chance for a jam or misfire.

AR's jam like jam does.

AK's and Rugers are very easy to clear.

To clear an AR jam you need a hammer and a flat head screwdriver. This could get you killed in a firefight.

So I laugh at all the G.I. Joe's with AR's.

 

[yiostheoy]

Pray tell the difference tween the .308 version vs the AR mow down the crowd version ?

You have literally never even seen a gun, have you?

5.56 is too small for most deer. Not Texas Whitetails, but most deer. A .308 is probably one of the most popular calibers for hunting.

My first deer was taken with a shotgun...that gun Timmy deems safe

You want a clean kill right ? Don’t want. Bullet that me going to destroy all that meat.

But if you are killing people , then you want as much bodily damage as possible . That’s the difference.

Unless you plan to eat everything that you kill !!

Uurah !!