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Again, do you have a fucking point?Did you have a point?
As I said, TRUE market forces, even WITHOUT gov't help, will not work like it would with iPhones or another widget.....Health care isn't something most people bargain and haggle and shop around for when their kid broke their back And arm, or in a car accident or when diagnosed with cancer etc.... time is usually of the essence and its not like we are simply a customer that can walk away from the "purchase" and wait till it goes on sale...
True market forces are not really present, to make it work as a widget purchase.
Yes, that's true, market forces aren't really present, because GOVERNMENT intervention has totally short circuited them, it explains why health care costs have gone through the roof and relative quality has declined ever since politicians have put their grubby, corrupt, money stealing mitts on the health care market.
Competition is what reduces costs and increases quality, government intervention has the opposite effect.
"The market system is the basis of our civilization. Its only alternative is the Führer principle." -- Ludwig Von Mises
Why stop there? go all the way and just BAN health care, fucking doctors are all quacks anyways.We need to replace obamacare with a BAN on health insurance.
Health care isn't something most people bargain and haggle and shop around for when their kid broke their back And arm, or in a car accident or when diagnosed with cancer etc.... time is usually of the essence and its not like we are simply a customer that can walk away from the "purchase" and wait till it goes on sale...
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3000 should be more like two weeks salary, and thats pretty much living at bare minimum60 years ago a night in a hospital cost one day's salary of an average worker. Now it cost's $3,000 which is more like a month's salary.
As I said, TRUE market forces, even WITHOUT gov't help, will not work like it would with iPhones or another widget.....Health care isn't something most people bargain and haggle and shop around for when their kid broke their back And arm, or in a car accident or when diagnosed with cancer etc.... time is usually of the essence and its not like we are simply a customer that can walk away from the "purchase" and wait till it goes on sale...
True market forces are not really present, to make it work as a widget purchase.
Yes, that's true, market forces aren't really present, because GOVERNMENT intervention has totally short circuited them, it explains why health care costs have gone through the roof and relative quality has declined ever since politicians have put their grubby, corrupt, money stealing mitts on the health care market.
Competition is what reduces costs and increases quality, government intervention has the opposite effect.
"The market system is the basis of our civilization. Its only alternative is the Führer principle." -- Ludwig Von Mises
Medical assistance when sick IS NOT equal to passing on the purchase of an iPhone because it costs too much.
And the very high deductibles was suppose to bring costs down with consumer influence and people are screaming bloody murder over them.
That tax deduction that your employers get, is gov't intervention, those medical advances comes from gov't intervention thru funding the research and development at universities, those medical school grants is gov't intervention, Medicare and Medicaid, and VA hospitals is gov't intervention, CHIP the health care coverage for poor children is gov't intervention, vaccinations for all grade school kids is Gvt intervention, pharmaceutical R&D is Gvt intervention,....building health care clinics is Gvt intervention....
You have not considered REALITY.
Banning insurance would be better than forcing it on everyone. But I still don't get what's wrong with letting people decide for themselves how to finance their healthcare.
Banning insurance would be better than forcing it on everyone. But I still don't get what's wrong with letting people decide for themselves how to finance their healthcare.
It hurts all of us when people are allowed to buy health insurance. Lots of things make sense individually but not collectively. I personally would like to hire anyone i wish to represent me in court but the law says i have to hire a lawyer. And that's probably a good law.
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. Insurance, as a default means of financing health care, isn't viable. All we need to do is quit propping it up with state policy. Let people buy whatever kind of insurance they want, or not. Without government subsidies and policies pushing people into buying insurance, we'll find a balance that suits us.
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. Insurance, as a default means of financing health care, isn't viable. All we need to do is quit propping it up with state policy. Let people buy whatever kind of insurance they want, or not. Without government subsidies and policies pushing people into buying insurance, we'll find a balance that suits us.
That might work but i doubt if would drive down healthcare costs. But if there was no health insurance, health care would cost 1/10th what it does now and there would be no real need for insurance except catastrophic.
because they do not have insurance or can't afford insurance or healthcare in the USA....and they go to Mexico because they have universal healthcare there with no insurance companies getting 1/3 of the cost of health care for just pushing paper...plus workers are paid less in Mexico, Doctors are paid less, nurses are paid less, and pharma drugs are 1/4 the price because these nations can negotiate with the pharma industry for them but Repugs in the USA CONGRESS made it illegal for us to negotiate drug prices with PHARMA, and we in the USA pay for ALL drug research and development, while all other nations in the entire world, who buy PHARMA drugs do not.Health care isn't something most people bargain and haggle and shop around for when their kid broke their back And arm, or in a car accident or when diagnosed with cancer etc.... time is usually of the essence and its not like we are simply a customer that can walk away from the "purchase" and wait till it goes on sale...
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So why do so many americans go to mexico or other countries for health care.? Price always matters, you fool.
the board notes that granny is right....you are an idiot....and a pussy...what do you think of that?....You're an idiot.
Nothing in the OP is true.
The board notes that all you have is namecalling. Thanks for admitting i'm right.
Tyron finds this amusing, I wondered why then I realized.3000 should be more like two weeks salary, and thats pretty much living at bare minimum60 years ago a night in a hospital cost one day's salary of an average worker. Now it cost's $3,000 which is more like a month's salary.
60 years ago most americans did not have health insurance and health care was just fine and much much cheaper than it is now. When people pay their own medical bills three good things happen to keep costs down.
1. People take care of their health and when they got sick, they doctor themselves
2. People haggle with doctors over prices
3. There is very little fraud.
I can see the point of catastrophic health insurance but that should be it.
because they do not have insurance or can't afford insurance or healthcare in the USA....and they go to Mexico because they have universal healthcare there with no insurance companies getting 1/3 of the cost of health care for just pushing paper.So why do so many americans go to mexico or other countries for health care.? Price always matters, you fool.
It was not just fine! You're not only a racist, but one of the most ignorant and dumbest persons who posts on this message board.
It was not just fine! You're not only a racist, but one of the most ignorant and dumbest persons who posts on this message board.
HAHAHA. More namecalling from the loony libs. Thanks for admitting i'm right.
BTW - YOU are the racist since you support affirmative action. I'm an anti-racist.
Big government socialism together with affirmative-action has destroyed Indian reservations all across the nation. FactIt was not just fine! You're not only a racist, but one of the most ignorant and dumbest persons who posts on this message board.
HAHAHA. More namecalling from the loony libs. Thanks for admitting i'm right.
BTW - YOU are the racist since you support affirmative action. I'm an anti-racist.
More evidence of your ignorance (and it isn't the willful form): Affirmative Action (AA) was employed to end a wrong. Only fools and of course racists like you still use the term AA. The term today is a consent decree, and that means the hiring authority will reach out to the protected class (protected from asses like you) and recruit and provide education to them so that they can compete on a level playing field with white males (like me). The goal is for the protected class in any community to mirror the demographics of that community.
Would you like a police force composed of only black men? Until the 60's most police and fire agencies were composed of only white males, over the height of 5' 8" in SF. These requirements eliminated more than half of the population of The City. The sky did not fall when equal opportunity became the policy.