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We need a Convention of States to amend the U.S. Constitution. What amendments do you support?

What constitutional amendments would you like to put up for the Convention of States to consider?

  • Election Reform, only US citizens, ID required, signature matching, mail-in by excuse only, etc.

    Votes: 12 57.1%
  • Balanced Budget required, w/o using SS funds, unless in time of declared war,

    Votes: 12 57.1%
  • To ensure that apportionment of Representatives be set by counting only citizens

    Votes: 14 66.7%
  • To make the filibuster in the Senate a part of the Constitution

    Votes: 8 38.1%
  • To allow the President a "line item veto"

    Votes: 14 66.7%
  • To guarantee the right to use the word "God" in the Pledge of Allegiance and the national motto

    Votes: 7 33.3%
  • To set mandatory retirement ages for House/Senate/Supreme Court Justices.

    Votes: 11 52.4%
  • Social Security must be made whole, i.e. "fixed" and only those who contributed can get benefits

    Votes: 9 42.9%
  • New one, see my post

    Votes: 6 28.6%

  • Total voters
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The U.S. Constitution can be amended two ways, either by 2/3 votes in the House and Senate, or by a Convention of States where 3/4 of the States must ratify new amendments for the new amendment to pass. So if in 2022 or 2024 the GOP can get 38 state legislatures they can amend the US Constitution. Not an impossible task.
The US president has no say in either of the amendment processes.

The Constitution provides that an amendment may be proposed either by the Congress with a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or by a constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the State legislatures. None of the 27 amendments to the Constitution have been proposed by constitutional convention. The Congress proposes an amendment in the form of a joint resolution. Since the President does not have a constitutional role in the amendment process, the joint resolution does not go to the White House for signature or approval. The original document is forwarded directly to NARA's Office of the Federal Register (OFR) for processing and publication. The OFR adds legislative history notes to the joint resolution and publishes it in slip law format. The OFR also assembles an information package for the States which includes formal "red-line" copies of the joint resolution, copies of the joint resolution in slip law format, and the statutory procedure for ratification under 1 U.S.C. 106b.

A proposed amendment becomes part of the Constitution as soon as it is ratified by three-fourths of the States (38 of 50 States). When the OFR verifies that it has received the required number of authenticated ratification documents, it drafts a formal proclamation for the Archivist to certify that the amendment is valid and has become part of the Constitution. This certification is published in the Federal Register and U.S. Statutes at Large and serves as official notice to the Congress and to the Nation that the amendment process has been completed.

So what new amendments would you support? I'll start the ball rolling with a few in a poll.

 

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I feel very strongly that there should be an Amendment that says that Congress' power is limited to exactly what is set forth in Article One, and all other powers are reserved to the states and the people.

I think that would be very helpful.
 
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Just thought of another one. TERM LIMITS. We need more turnover in the House and Senate.
 

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So what new amendments would you support? I'll start the ball rolling with a few in a poll.
Sorry to be a downer buf do you really still believe this process can be employed successfully after watching the DC Cartel in action since 2016? THESE people will not be constrained by any rules and they have the money and criminal bona fides to stop anyone from raining on their party.
The only real solution is a DC epicenter for about a 100KT device.
 

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Just thought of another one. TERM LIMITS. We need more turnover in the House and Senate.
wouldnt work,, the parties would just have someone waiting in the hallway for the next election,,

we need to ban political action groups from federal politics.. that includes political parties,,,

no more D or R on the ballots,,
 

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Just thought of another one. TERM LIMITS. We need more turnover in the House and Senate.
Did you see how the bureaucracy was used to stymie an elected president? Term limits, unless we had something very similar in our "civil service" code, wouldn't help and could make things worse.
 

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I would like to see something that would limit the ability of the filthy government to take the money that you earn. Like setting a percentage of your income limit on what the government can require you to pay in taxes. Like 8% total for the combined Federal, state and local. That includes direct and indirect.

That would defund the bastards.
 
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Sorry to be a downer buf do you really still believe this process can be employed successfully after watching the DC Cartel in action since 2016? THESE people will not be constrained by any rules and they have the money and criminal bona fides to stop anyone from raining on their party.
The only real solution is a DC epicenter for about a 100KT device.
The really good news is that the DC coxuckers don't do away games. That's the beauty part of a Convention of States.
 

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My preferred amendment recommendation remains a work in progress.

Last time it was proposed for consideration was 2011 to the 112th Congress in the form of House Joint Resolution No. 50 ("proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States relative to abolishing personal income, estate, and gift taxes and prohibiting the United States Government from engaging in business in competition with its citizens")

The Liberty Amendment

Being about it is > talking about it.
 

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I would support 2 amendments.

1. Politicians get the same exact medical benefits the rest of the country gets. No separate system for them.

2. Politicians lose the right to plead the 5th when involved in any scandal.
 

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wouldnt work,, the parties would just have someone waiting in the hallway for the next election,,

we need to ban political action groups from federal politics.. that includes political parties,,,

no more D or R on the ballots,,
So then, what are you going to do when they claim that they are religious organizations, instead of political activities???
 

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Don't we have enough problems to address without changing the game plan? Let's deal with the Biden situation before we go trolling for constitutional issues.
 

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So then, what are you going to do when they claim that they are religious organizations, instead of political activities???
when that happens lets talk about the details and specifics of their case,,

until then youre just another raving lunatic,,
 

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The U.S. Constitution can be amended two ways, either by 2/3 votes in the House and Senate, or by a Convention of States where 3/4 of the States must ratify new amendments for the new amendment to pass. So if in 2022 or 2024 the GOP can get 38 state legislatures they can amend the US Constitution. Not an impossible task.
The US president has no say in either of the amendment processes.
We all know that stuff. What you do not understand is that Mark Meckler (leader of the Convention of States organization) has no intention of organizing a convention to actually do the work - he just wants to threaten a convention, because then the Congress will make the amendments. That is what has happened in the past. But Meckler cannot get anywhere, because times are different and what he, or you, have to do is organize the convention and compose the amendment system, and then that will convince the state legisltures to appoint the people from their respective states that participated in the private convention, appoint them to an official convention to officially validate the amendments for state ratification.

But the Congress will beat you to the end, anyway. They will find out what amendments a convention composes and validates, and the Congress will just take it and pass it and send it to the states before you can do it all.

The senior members of the Congress and smart lawyers know, that if anyone can actually organize a national convention to compose amendments, then the rules that inspire people to participate and process legislation that impresses the state legislatures is an organization that succeeds the federal legislature.

And the composers of Article V. knew that, just as senior congress members and smart lawyers know.

You mediocre political novices cannot figure that out on your own, and probably send money to Meckler.

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when that happens lets talk about the details and specifics of their case,,

until then youre just another raving lunatic,,
I am not the lunatic - I figured out the inadequacy of your argument years ago.

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