We have obtained a secret agreement between 14 blue states, left wing groups, and NYC law firms to conduct coordinated lawfare against DOGE and Elon

[rightwinger]

Government hires consultants all the time and Elon is doing his job fabulously. The problem is that he is exposing the richest and most powerful crooks in our government, including the media and education cartels, and they don't like it a bit.

Elon is a thug who is knocking things down without any concern about how he will fix it.

In the end, he will just walk away and say……It’s your problem now

 

[Care4all]

However.... The government can protect itself from specious lawsuits and force those who bring them to pay their own way.

Yes, they can request such....in those type suits, but the judge makes that decision.

 

[fncceo]

So..........wanna explain how an unelected individual who is making massive cuts to the government and enriching themselves at the expense of this country is legal?

Every member of the Executive Branch -- with the exception of The President and Vice President is un-elected,

Elon Musk and his team are hired by the Federal Government to recommend cost-cutting efficiencies.

How is this NOT legal?


Is passionately campaigning to perpetuate government fraud, waste, and inefficiency REALLY the hill you want to die on?

 

[WorldWatcher]

Every member of the Executive Branch -- with the exception of The President and Vice President is un-elected,

Elon Musk and his team are hired by the Federal Government to recommend cost-cutting efficiencies.

How is this NOT legal?


Is passionately campaigning to perpetuate government fraud, waste, and inefficiency REALLY the hill you want to die on?

Because Musk is making the cuts with a tissue thin paper veil to hide behind.

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[fncceo]

Because Musk is making the cuts with a tissue thin paper veil to hide behind.

He's not actually hiding behind anything ... the cuts are being made in the full light of day, with full public disclosure.

Now, I fully recognize that none of us are used to fully public disclosure when it comes to government workings.

We are far too comfortable with back-room deals and hidden costs.

Welcome to the new normal ... relax and enjoy it.

 

[WorldWatcher]

He's not actually hiding behind anything ... the cuts are being made in the full light of day, with full public disclosure.

Now, I fully recognize that none of us are used to fully public disclosure when it comes to government workings.

We are far too comfortable with back-room deals and hidden costs.

Welcome to the new normal ... relax and enjoy it.

Then why is Trump hiding DOGE's activities from FOIA?

Transparant my ass.

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Trump’s Declaration Allows Musk’s Efficiency Team to Skirt Open Records Laws

Government watchdog groups say they will challenge the Trump administration’s decision to put the initiative under the Presidential Records Act, which shields its work from public disclosure.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Care4all]

Every member of the Executive Branch -- with the exception of The President and Vice President is un-elected,

Elon Musk and his team are hired by the Federal Government to recommend cost-cutting efficiencies.

How is this NOT legal?


Is passionately campaigning to perpetuate government fraud, waste, and inefficiency REALLY the hill you want to die on?

Cabinet positions and high up Admin, have to have divesting of conflicts financially and vetting by our elected officials, with the Consent of the Senate... along with the president.

Elon and his govt paid, lacking common sense idiots working in DOGE, have no such thing....from my understanding....and they make the highest govt pay a govt worker can make....as just hired employees...

 

[justoffal]

Every member of the Executive Branch -- with the exception of The President and Vice President is un-elected,

Elon Musk and his team are hired by the Federal Government to recommend cost-cutting efficiencies.

How is this NOT legal?


Is passionately campaigning to perpetuate government fraud, waste, and inefficiency REALLY the hill you want to die on?

The beauty of this whole thing is that they have allowed their hatred for Donald Trump to completely obscure their vision.

The specter of Marxist hellgrammites wallowing in arrogant self-righteousness in the face of a severely disabled child is proof positive that they have become completely insane.

The fact that they were unable to react humanely in a situation that demanded humanity revealed the lockstep prison of the mind that they have committed themselves to.

It was never more obvious then at that defining moment..... Hell the fact that 10 Democrats parted with the central borg and voted to censure that loudmouthed Jew hating screwball Green, should be a Clarion call to the Democratic leadership.... But no they can no longer hear it.... They have become salt pillars outside the walls of modern day Sodom.

 

[justoffal]

Cabinet positions and high up Admin, have to have divesting of conflicts financially and vetting by our elected officials, with the Consent of the Senate... along with the president.

Elon and his govt paid, lacking common sense idiots working in DOGE, have no such thing....from my understanding....and they make the highest govt pay a govt worker can make....as just hired employees...

Yeah yeah yeah.... But the alternative is to continue the growth of bloated government,
Continue the growth of deficit spending and the growth of the debt. Frankly these just are not acceptable alternatives. If the law says they can't be examined then the law must be broken.

That simple.

 

[justoffal]

"Specious lawsuits" doesn't apply when the actions of the governemnt are violating the law and so in fact have merit.

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Regardless the bond needs to be established and if the government is in the wrong the bond will be refunded. Plaintiffs need to have skin in the game to prevent an army of bad actors from simply overloading the judicial system with personal complaints.

 

[Care4all]

The beauty of this whole thing is that they have allowed their hatred for Donald Trump to completely obscure their vision.

The specter of Marxist hellgrammites wallowing in arrogant self-righteousness in the face of a severely disabled child is proof positive that they have become completely insane.

The fact that they were unable to react humanely in a situation that demanded humanity revealed the lockstep prison of the mind that they have committed themselves to.

It was never more obvious then at that defining moment..... Hell the fact that 10 Democrats parted with the central borg and voted to censure that loudmouthed Jew hating screwball Green, should be a Clarion call to the Democratic leadership.... But no they can no longer hear it.... They have become salt pillars outside the walls of modern day Sodom.

Joe Wilson, yelling YOU LIE, during Obama's SOTU Speech was never CENSURED, with a vote, by the Rs in charge....

 

[j-mac]

Yeah yeah yeah.... But the alternative is to continue the growth of bloated government,
Continue the growth of deficit spending and the growth of the debt. Frankly these just are not acceptable alternatives. If the law says they can't be examined then the law must be broken.

That simple.

Trump tried to go into the swamp in his first term. The problem he had was that he didn't know his way around it. This time around, and thanks to Dems being so crazy after Trump's first term, they pulled all the stops and installed a vegetable in our WH, and had a four year party of total corruption, allowing Trump to really drill down the way to drain the swamp. Now, he's going to do it.

And what get's me is that if they had just been low key the last four years, many American's that are distracted by everyday life would have missed it, and Trump may not have won, but no. They had to go full on Jackass. Outraging almost every corner of America, then are super shocked that all of this is now happening...

I said the entire last 4 years that Democrats would "overplay" their hand, as they always do, and right on cue they did so...They deserve everything they are getting right now...

But, we have to be careful, 1. Not to dive so deep down their hell hole, that we become like them, and 2. Be prepared for Democrats to go full on to their nature which is authoritarian, and begin to resort to mass violence, which could once again pit brother against brother in this Country...

So, Right on Trump, Full steam ahead, but do so with the proper amount of caution, and involve Congress so as to make this worth while.

 

[justoffal]

Joe Wilson, yelling YOU LIE, during Obama's SOTU Speech was never CENSURED, with a vote, by the Rs in charge....

It should have been..... In my opinion the only way to fix this type of misbehavior is to have the president give the speech from an undisclosed location with a macro screen showing to the seated audience of legislators. Marjorie Taylor green and Lauren Bobert have also behaved badly in these venues. Johnson should introduce a rule that bans attendance for an indefinite period of time for any legislator that behaves this way regardless of how right they might feel they are.

 

[justoffal]

Trump tried to go into the swamp in his first term. The problem he had was that he didn't know his way around it. This time around, and thanks to Dems being so crazy after Trump's first term, they pulled all the stops and installed a vegetable in our WH, and had a four year party of total corruption, allowing Trump to really drill down the way to drain the swamp. Now, he's going to do it.

And what get's me is that if they had just been low key the last four years, many American's that are distracted by everyday life would have missed it, and Trump may not have won, but no. They had to go full on Jackass. Outraging almost every corner of America, then are super shocked that all of this is now happening...

I said the entire last 4 years that Democrats would "overplay" their hand, as they always do, and right on cue they did so...They deserve everything they are getting right now...

But, we have to be careful, 1. Not to dive so deep down their hell hole, that we become like them, and 2. Be prepared for Democrats to go full on to their nature which is authoritarian, and begin to resort to mass violence, which could once again pit brother against brother in this Country...

So, Right on Trump, Full steam ahead, but do so with the proper amount of caution, and involve Congress so as to make this worth while.

It's not over yet.... 2026 midterms are right around the corner and I'm sure other Democrats have a plan to steal back the majorities. If they do everything will be nullified.

 

[j-mac]

It's not over yet.... 2026 midterms are right around the corner and I'm sure other Democrats have a plan to steal back the majorities. If they do everything will be nullified.

That's why if Trump is smart, while Dems are crying over DOGE, Trump should be working with Congress to ensure that this doesn't happen....

 

[justoffal]

That's why if Trump is smart, while Dems are crying over DOGE, Trump should be working with Congress to ensure that this doesn't happen....

Yep they have to begin now....
A very sophisticated system of algorithmic tampering has been detected and at least 14 States. Even Florida with its Republican governor has been unaware of just how jaded the local elections have been. It's being dug out of the woodwork now but it's going to be extremely difficult to keep it out of the elections. This has been going on since 2004.

 

[j-mac]

Yep they have to begin now....
A very sophisticated system of algorithmic tampering has been detected and at least 14 States. Even Florida with its Republican governor has been unaware of just how jaded the local elections have been. It's being dug out of the woodwork now but it's going to be extremely difficult to keep it out of the elections. This has been going on since 2004.

Yet Dems throw around terms like Fascist. What a joke....Limbaugh said it years, if not decades ago...Whatever a Democrat is accusing, it is in fact what they are doing.

 

[wamose]

Elon is a thug who is knocking things down without any concern about how he will fix it.

In the end, he will just walk away and say……It’s your problem now

Our country's continued ability to function or even exist depends on our ability to balance our budget at this time, so the idea of eliminating waste is super valid. Elon is doing a great job of pinpointing waste but it's not his job to fix it. He points out waste, gives recommendations, and then it's up to the departments and the legislature to execute the plan. The downside is that our politicians are piss poor at executing anything except spending money and making bullshit excuses for it.

 

[JoeB131]

Again, I say, didn’t get the numbers you were hoping for…

you can say that... but the reality is, I was expecting poor performance and the beginning of a new recession, and that's what we got.

Unemployment is up.
Job creation was below expectations
Previous months were adjusted down.
Labor participation rate dropped.

None of these are good signs.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Regardless the bond needs to be established and if the government is in the wrong the bond will be refunded. Plaintiffs need to have skin in the game to prevent an army of bad actors from simply overloading the judicial system with personal complaints.

Claimants already have skin in the game because to have standing they have do demonstrate from the get go that (a) the governments actions were illegal and (b) that they were harmed by the illegal actions.

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