We don't need no stinkin Dept of Education!

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We could do with probably about 10-20% of what is now the Dept. of Education.
Anything and everything uniform policy for all states goes immediately.
Education is not a function of the Federal government.
 

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Can''t think of any where in the constitution that gives the Federal Government any control over education. I believe that should be up to the individual State....
 

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I am not a Bachmann supporter but she is 80% right on this one.
 

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Can''t think of any where in the constitution that gives the Federal Government any control over education. I believe that should be up to the individual State....
Percentage wise, the federal government has minimal control over education. Most is still at the local level.
 

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Bachmann: Why do we need a Department of Education, anyway? « Hot Air

Or so it seems.

Painting herself as a “constitutional conservative” Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann told Sen. Jim DeMint’s forum Monday that if elected president she would look to get rid of the Department of Education, among other things.
Whatever the bureaucracy used to manage it, education is the key to living any way but wild.

In a society, learn to do something or be dependent on one tit or another for life. We, The People, owe it to ourselves to help us each to learn how to do somethin'.


:cool: Besides... it'll help keep the streets tidy for the tourists!
 

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Bachmann: Why do we need a Department of Education, anyway? « Hot Air

Or so it seems.

Painting herself as a “constitutional conservative” Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann told Sen. Jim DeMint’s forum Monday that if elected president she would look to get rid of the Department of Education, among other things.
Do you have an answer to the question, or are you just acting outraged because you think it is an extreme position without knowing why?
 

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Bachmann: Why do we need a Department of Education, anyway? « Hot Air

Or so it seems.

Painting herself as a “constitutional conservative” Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann told Sen. Jim DeMint’s forum Monday that if elected president she would look to get rid of the Department of Education, among other things.
yes... because it's so much easier to teach religion as science when you do away with standards. :cuckoo:
Like No Child Left Behind, which Arne Duncan plans to exempt states from compliance with?
 

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Can''t think of any where in the constitution that gives the Federal Government any control over education. I believe that should be up to the individual State....
Percentage wise, the federal government has minimal control over education. Most is still at the local level.
AVG-SIS disagrees and she is on a school board. She calls them 'unfunded mandates'.

Some of which make general sense, but many are forced on schools and districts where it just doesn't make sense.

There's something about the baby and the bath-water in this... We, The People of The Whole Fucking Place should maintain a vested interest in making sure the children of the Great State of Mississippi are afforded all the same opportunities for home-town growth and development or world travel following their dreams as all the little dudes and dudetts hanging 10 in California. But nobody knows better where the opportunities of any given region will be over the next 20 years than The People of The Great State of ......, so local control is essential, eh?
 

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Bachmann: Why do we need a Department of Education, anyway? « Hot Air

Or so it seems.

Painting herself as a “constitutional conservative” Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann told Sen. Jim DeMint’s forum Monday that if elected president she would look to get rid of the Department of Education, among other things.
Find the constitutional power that grants the feddies to be involved in education without having to shoe horn the definition to fit your desire.
 

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bachmann: Why do we need a department of education, anyway? « hot air

or so it seems.

painting herself as a “constitutional conservative” minnesota rep. Michele bachmann told sen. Jim demint’s forum monday that if elected president she would look to get rid of the department of education, among other things.
yes... Because it's so much easier to teach religion as science when you do away with standards. :cuckoo:
you leave global warming alone!

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Can''t think of any where in the constitution that gives the Federal Government any control over education. I believe that should be up to the individual State....
Percentage wise, the federal government has minimal control over education. Most is still at the local level.
AVG-SIS disagrees and she is on a school board. She calls them 'unfunded mandates'.

Some of which make general sense, but many are forced on schools and districts where it just doesn't make sense.

There's something about the baby and the bath-water in this... We, The People of The Whole Fucking Place should maintain a vested interest in making sure the children of the Great State of Mississippi are afforded all the same opportunities for home-town growth and development or world travel following their dreams as all the little dudes and dudetts hanging 10 in California. But nobody knows better where the opportunities of any given region will be over the next 20 years than The People of The Great State of ......, so local control is essential, eh?
With over 100 billion a year spent and rising the education system of Mississippi is getting worse than what it was when there was no Dept. of Education.

Education is parents. Attempting to throw $$ to change bad parents is like attempting to legislate morality.
As hard as thou shall try, thou can never polish a TURD.
 

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Bachmann: Why do we need a Department of Education, anyway? « Hot Air

Or so it seems.

Painting herself as a “constitutional conservative” Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann told Sen. Jim DeMint’s forum Monday that if elected president she would look to get rid of the Department of Education, among other things.
She also want's to get rid of the EPA.

Ever notice how those that want to get rid of education are all stupid?
She is an idiot for suggesting to get rid of EPA.
 

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Bachmann: Why do we need a Department of Education, anyway? « Hot Air

Or so it seems.

Painting herself as a “constitutional conservative” Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann told Sen. Jim DeMint’s forum Monday that if elected president she would look to get rid of the Department of Education, among other things.
She also want's to get rid of the EPA.

Ever notice how those that want to get rid of education are all stupid?
Who has been running the public education system for the last 50 years again? It's been so successful we've been consistantly dropping every decade in comparison to other nations. It's time for a flat out change away from a system that has a track record of not working.
 
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Percentage wise, the federal government has minimal control over education. Most is still at the local level.
AVG-SIS disagrees and she is on a school board. She calls them 'unfunded mandates'.

Some of which make general sense, but many are forced on schools and districts where it just doesn't make sense.

There's something about the baby and the bath-water in this... We, The People of The Whole Fucking Place should maintain a vested interest in making sure the children of the Great State of Mississippi are afforded all the same opportunities for home-town growth and development or world travel following their dreams as all the little dudes and dudetts hanging 10 in California. But nobody knows better where the opportunities of any given region will be over the next 20 years than The People of The Great State of ......, so local control is essential, eh?
With over 100 billion a year spent and rising the education system of Mississippi is getting worse than what it was when there was no Dept. of Education.

Education is parents. Attempting to throw $$ to change bad parents is like attempting to legislate morality.
As hard as thou shall try, thou can never polish a TURD.

You seem to have a pretty low opinion of The People of the Great State of Mississippi. It was just an example - Same could be true for The People of The Great State of Rhode Island or Montana.

The point is that micro managing curriculum should NOT be the purview of the federal government, but setting minimum standards for education should. When I hire a high school graduate from another state, I don't want to have to question him on his ability to read, write & cipher a bit.
 

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We just had the largest cheating scandal in the history of this country on the standardized tests in the Atlanta Public School system.
What the fuck good did the US Dept. of Education do in all of that mess?
Their "standards" caused most of it.
 

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