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CDZ We Can't Be Sure Where Covid19 First Infected Humans, But We Can Be Sure About Some Things

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#22 is dangerously uneducated about COVID-19, and blames others for a lack of science. Has #22 actually read and understood any USMB C-19 threads?
 

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The US, Russia and Europe are already done.
Only if we listen to the surrender monkeys

China has a lot of economic influence in western countries with elected political leaders

And the lure of trade with china is still strong despite evidence that china is a thief and a liar

But the chicoms have a lot of problems internally and are not the rock solid favorite that libs think they are
I truly hope your are right.
 

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#38: The pangolin trajectory has been debunked, as we’ve shown on another thread.
 

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#37 does not answer the question about houseflies, which is not a conspiracy theory, though is a scientific fact.
 

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Dipshit #36: Unlike yourself, we have cited many scientists and their work, here at USMB.
 

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Dipstick #47 then dismisses the accumulated science we have cited. No too bright.
 

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It may be that Beale does not have the stones to argue the objective scientific material in front of a reading audience. Forget about hosting pop quizzes.
 

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It may be that Beale does not have the stones to argue the objective scientific material in front of a reading audience. Forget about hosting pop quizzes.
The last four posts you have made were personal attacks citing sources that were not provided and ignoring numerous sources that had been provided for you. You are trolling. Not worth the time to read.
 

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This thread should be in the Rubber room.
Seriously.
The original OP is full of erroneous information and is outright nuts.
It has no place in honest discussion.
 
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OP should realize that there is no evidence of deliberate, intentional manipulation of the virus to increase affinity to human ACE2 receptors. The lysine at position 484 of the C-19 RBD remains a lysine in the wild-type virus. Further, SARS-CoV-2 can be transmitted by houseflies. What does this fact do to your lab-escape conspiracy theory?
It’s about who it kills.
The Green New Deal Is a Dead Man's Hand

The powerful GreenHeads won't let you even think this, but the crony virus is about what kills it. Our pre-Lockdown level of auto emissions is what kills it. "Pollution" had prevented all pandemics for 100 years.
 

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China is not our friend. There IS NO EVEDENCE that they deliberately tried to kill people all over the world. After all we are a main source of there product sales.
 

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China is not our friend. There IS NO EVEDENCE that they deliberately tried to kill people all over the world. After all we are a main source of there product sales.
We were in a trade war that we were winning and they had to put an end to that. Solution? Joe Biden.
 

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On Tuesday, it was clear that the “fact sheet” behind recent claims that COVID-19 originated in a Wuhan lab could not be trusted, and that, truthfully, we still don’t know the precise origin of the virus. We know it has ancestors among a pool of coronavirus that circulates in horseshoe bats and may have reached humans by way of pangolins as an intermediary host. But where the virus achieved the structure we know as SARS-CoV-2, including the ability to spread infection easily from human to human, remains unknown.

But while the scientists can’t eliminate the possibility that the first case of SARS-CoV-2 escaped a facility in the body of a researcher, they are definitive in saying that the features of the virus all but rule out the possibility that the virus was developed “in culture.” The changes between the virus and the wild viruses “argues against culture-based scenarios.” Instead, the features of the virus “suggest the involvement of an immune system.” SARS-CoV-2 evolved within living animals, almost certainly in the wild.

So… once again, could the virus that causes SARS-CoV-2 have been introduced to the population of Wuhan by laboratory error at the virology institute in that city? Yes, though there remains no evidence that this is the case. Could the virus have been in some sense built at that lab by combining features of bat and pangolin viruses in some kind of “gain-of-function” research? No. Almost certainly not.


they are definitive in saying that the features of the virus all but rule out the possibility that the virus was developed “in culture.” The changes between the virus and the wild viruses “argues against culture-based scenarios.” Instead, the features of the virus “suggest the involvement of an immune system.”

From everything i've heard or read so far, this statement is the most telling. A purposely developed, weaponized virus developed in culture, has a very definitive signature, that can be seen and tested. The features of the virus that have been the most infectious, have had immune system involvement. This suggests the virus learned from a immune system how to escape and replicate to become so infectious, and could very well have been an animal immune system first, before jumping to humans. Which would indicate wild virus, not laboratory cultured virus. And as suggested could have been introduced by human error in Wuhan by a lab technician, though this has yet to be confirmed. Biden made the correct decision to have intelligence investigate.






Hmmmm, the "official" line from the chinese and their allies in the WHO, and of course fauci and company, is that covid came from the wet markets. However, there is no factual evidence to support that claim.

The actual facts that we DO have, show that the lab was actively engaged in viral research SPECIFICALLY on those viral agents, and the first people hospitalized were workers from the lab.

So, the chinese stooges would have you believe, in the face of ALL evidence to the contrary, that the virus did not originate in the lab, a lab whose work was funded by fauci and company.

If ever there was a conspiracy theory, that is it.
It is demofk magic
 

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A purposely developed, weaponized virus developed in culture

If someone were going to develop a weaponized disease ... they should probably make it more deadly than the common cold.

On the other hand, all that was needed to panic the entire planet and destroy the global economy was a common cold ... so, maybe they knew what they were doing.
Right?
 

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On Tuesday, it was clear that the “fact sheet” behind recent claims that COVID-19 originated in a Wuhan lab could not be trusted, and that, truthfully, we still don’t know the precise origin of the virus. We know it has ancestors among a pool of coronavirus that circulates in horseshoe bats and may have reached humans by way of pangolins as an intermediary host. But where the virus achieved the structure we know as SARS-CoV-2, including the ability to spread infection easily from human to human, remains unknown.

But while the scientists can’t eliminate the possibility that the first case of SARS-CoV-2 escaped a facility in the body of a researcher, they are definitive in saying that the features of the virus all but rule out the possibility that the virus was developed “in culture.” The changes between the virus and the wild viruses “argues against culture-based scenarios.” Instead, the features of the virus “suggest the involvement of an immune system.” SARS-CoV-2 evolved within living animals, almost certainly in the wild.

So… once again, could the virus that causes SARS-CoV-2 have been introduced to the population of Wuhan by laboratory error at the virology institute in that city? Yes, though there remains no evidence that this is the case. Could the virus have been in some sense built at that lab by combining features of bat and pangolin viruses in some kind of “gain-of-function” research? No. Almost certainly not.


they are definitive in saying that the features of the virus all but rule out the possibility that the virus was developed “in culture.” The changes between the virus and the wild viruses “argues against culture-based scenarios.” Instead, the features of the virus “suggest the involvement of an immune system.”

From everything i've heard or read so far, this statement is the most telling. A purposely developed, weaponized virus developed in culture, has a very definitive signature, that can be seen and tested. The features of the virus that have been the most infectious, have had immune system involvement. This suggests the virus learned from a immune system how to escape and replicate to become so infectious, and could very well have been an animal immune system first, before jumping to humans. Which would indicate wild virus, not laboratory cultured virus. And as suggested could have been introduced by human error in Wuhan by a lab technician, though this has yet to be confirmed. Biden made the correct decision to have intelligence investigate.
So the scientists in Wuhan, attached to the CCP choker, are going going to tell the truth?

So Daily Kooks is ever going to tell any truth, that depicts the Murican left in even the most slight skeptical light?

I don't think so.

Likewise, it is becoming very clear that St. Fauci has been lying out his munchkin ass.

This thread is GIGO.
Dirty Laundry by Don Henley is the best explanation
 

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We can be sure of some things. Ebola vaccine is based on a virus from a Kansas cow, even though the strain of the virus is called “Indiana.” While the commie virus was eating Americans, they were hard at work in their lab combining the Kansas virus with the Chinese virus:

19 Aug 2020 Researchers Create A Virus That Mimics SARS-CoV-2, the COVID-19 Coronavirus — Here’s Why
 

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China is not our friend. There IS NO EVEDENCE that they deliberately tried to kill people all over the world. After all we are a main source of there product sales.
Sure there is. Why do you ignore it? They paying you?
 

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