We Can't Afford To Be Everywhere Forever

[Kevin_Kennedy]

The point being that WW1 is proof that the U.S. was not "isolationist," but rather very much interventionist.

dear, very much interventionist would mean getting in in the very beginning not in at the very end. In any case it is silly subject since it is our obligations to stop Putin ISIS and Ebola as the richest country on earth by far and as the last best hope for freedom on earth.

No, interventionist means intervening, which the U.S. did and which resulted in the rise of Hitler and WWII.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

No, interventionist means intervening, which the U.S. did and which resulted in the rise of Hitler and WWII.

no dear there are degrees of interventionism. Put your thinking cap on here. It was not the late intervention by the USA into WW1 that caused WW2 but rather the harsh settlement of WW1, the coincidence of Hitler, the isolationism of Europe and to a lesser extend the USA, and the Depression after the WW1 that led to WW2. Do you understand?

 

[initforme]

Nope, we cant. And we can't spread our troops too thin either. I don't know how enlistments are doing but where I live basically nobody goes into the military anymore after graduation, maybe 1 out of 100. And a draft would never go over.

 

[Picaro]

Neocons like Rick Perry and John McCain want our troops to be everywhere forever. We can't afford the obligations we currently have overseas, much less protracted battles in all four corners of the globe.

Actually it's far cheaper, and far more effective, to maintain bases overseas than to fight world wars over and over and over again. What is 'unaffordable' is the domestic corruption that increases the costs of military spending 10 fold through various pork barrel programs; unfortunately most Americans love corruption and pork barrel spending, except of course for 'the other persons' pork barrel spending' in Congressional districts outside their own back yards.

We have problems to address here at home, like the debt, infrastructure, the borders, and Social Security solvency. We would be wise to focus our money at home for a while so we can get caught up on things here

Again, domestic corruption prohibits doing anything sane in regard to those problems as well, and for the same reasons. Those 'problems' exist because the public votes for inefficiency, debt, and mayhem on our borders.

 

[Picaro]

The British Empire declined because of its unilateral 'free trade' policies, the same reasons the U.S. is going into decline. It was these policies that allowed the U.S. and Germany to make money hand over fist behind protectionist tariff walls while England bled to death under a tsunami of cheap imports and ruined industries. Seems they only read the parts of Adam Smith's book that favored financiers while ignoring the parts where he distinctly pointed out the conditions under which his theories would fail miserably, and of course he was right.

 

[Picaro]

no dear there are degrees of interventionism. Put your thinking cap on here. It was not the late intervention by the USA into WW1 that caused WW2 but rather the harsh settlement of WW1, the coincidence of Hitler, the isolationism of Europe and to a lesser extend the USA, and the Depression after the WW1 that led to WW2. Do you understand?

There was no 'harsh settlement' after WW I. That's a myth that isn't even remotely connected to actual facts. Post-WW I sniveling by Germany doesn't mean anything related to truth.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

There was no 'harsh settlement' after WW I.

dear, can you say why you believe that??

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The British Empire declined because of its unilateral 'free trade' policies,

dear, can you say why you are against free trade? Do you think each state in America would be richer if it prohibited free trade with other states? Do you think each person in America would be richer if he refused to trade freely with other people? Do you think we would be better off growing bananas here in a greenhouse or importing them for 10 cents a pound from Central America

Economists agree on little but free trade is one thing they do agree on. We don't need you to reinvent the wheel. Sorry to rock your world.

 

[XPostFacto]

Good thing about not being everywhere is it makes good cover for America no longer being anywhere in world opinion.

Obama has seen to that with his globalist strategy to destroy America as a super power.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Good thing about not being everywhere is it makes good cover for America no longer being anywhere in world opinion.

Obama has seen to that with his globalist strategy to destroy America as a super power.

Yes, liberals would have loved to save the money spent on defense and spend it at home on more and more crippling welfare programs but as it turns out ISIS with anthrax is more dangerous than the USSR with a million nukes.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

No, interventionist means intervening, which the U.S. did and which resulted in the rise of Hitler and WWII.

no dear there are degrees of interventionism. Put your thinking cap on here. It was not the late intervention by the USA into WW1 that caused WW2 but rather the harsh settlement of WW1, the coincidence of Hitler, the isolationism of Europe and to a lesser extend the USA, and the Depression after the WW1 that led to WW2. Do you understand?

And what led to the harsh settlement of WWI, which was a relatively even contest before: Unnecessary U.S. intervention in WWI.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

No, interventionist means intervening, which the U.S. did and which resulted in the rise of Hitler and WWII.

no dear there are degrees of interventionism. Put your thinking cap on here. It was not the late intervention by the USA into WW1 that caused WW2 but rather the harsh settlement of WW1, the coincidence of Hitler, the isolationism of Europe and to a lesser extend the USA, and the Depression after the WW1 that led to WW2. Do you understand?

And what led to the harsh settlement of WWI, which was a relatively even contest before: Unnecessary U.S. intervention in WWI.

Great, so we stand by and let the Germans and ISIS slaughter anyone they want even if in the millions. Sorry pal its not civilized and not American.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

No, interventionist means intervening, which the U.S. did and which resulted in the rise of Hitler and WWII.

no dear there are degrees of interventionism. Put your thinking cap on here. It was not the late intervention by the USA into WW1 that caused WW2 but rather the harsh settlement of WW1, the coincidence of Hitler, the isolationism of Europe and to a lesser extend the USA, and the Depression after the WW1 that led to WW2. Do you understand?

And what led to the harsh settlement of WWI, which was a relatively even contest before: Unnecessary U.S. intervention in WWI.

Great, so we stand by and let the Germans and ISIS slaughter anyone they want even if in the millions. Sorry pal its not civilized and not American.

The Germans in WWI were no worse than some of our allies I'm afraid, and ISIS poses no threat to the United States. Should the U.S. "stand by" and "let" Saudi Arabia behead dozens of people over the past few months alone, or should I not mention that since those particular bad guys are friends of the U.S. government?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

ISIS poses no threat to the United States.

unbelievable ignorance and stupidity. Its like saying OBL posed no threat to the USA. We've already bombed the IS branch that was working on specific attacks on the USA. Chemical and bio weapons could wipe out entire cities easily.

See why we are positive that liberalism is based in pure ignorance?

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

ISIS poses no threat to the United States.

unbelievable ignorance and stupidity. Its like saying OBL posed no threat to the USA. We've already bombed the IS branch that was working on specific attacks on the USA. Chemical and bio weapons could wipe out entire cities easily.

See why we are positive that liberalism is based in pure ignorance?

We await your evidence with bated breath.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

ISIS poses no threat to the United States.

unbelievable ignorance and stupidity. Its like saying OBL posed no threat to the USA. We've already bombed the IS branch that was working on specific attacks on the USA. Chemical and bio weapons could wipe out entire cities easily.

See why we are positive that liberalism is based in pure ignorance?

We await your evidence with bated breath.

dear evidence of what exactly????

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

ISIS poses no threat to the United States.

unbelievable ignorance and stupidity. Its like saying OBL posed no threat to the USA. We've already bombed the IS branch that was working on specific attacks on the USA. Chemical and bio weapons could wipe out entire cities easily.

See why we are positive that liberalism is based in pure ignorance?

We await your evidence with bated breath.

dear evidence of what exactly????

Your claims.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

ISIS poses no threat to the United States.

unbelievable ignorance and stupidity. Its like saying OBL posed no threat to the USA. We've already bombed the IS branch that was working on specific attacks on the USA. Chemical and bio weapons could wipe out entire cities easily.

See why we are positive that liberalism is based in pure ignorance?

We await your evidence with bated breath.

dear evidence of what exactly????

Your claims.

dear are you afraid to say what claims exactly? What does your fear teach us?

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Those wars were not cheap and cost as much as $6 trillion.

US Wars in Afghanistan Iraq to Cost 6 trillion Global Research

The decade-long American wars in Afghanistan and Iraq would end up costing as much as $6 trillion, the equivalent of $75,000 for every American household, calculates the prestigious Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government. ...

The report states: “The Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts, taken together, will be the most expensive wars in US history—totaling somewhere between $4 trillion and $6 trillion. This includes long-term medical care and disability compensation for service members, veterans and families, military replenishment and social and economic costs. The largest portion of that bill is yet to be paid.”

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

ISIS poses no threat to the United States.

unbelievable ignorance and stupidity. Its like saying OBL posed no threat to the USA. We've already bombed the IS branch that was working on specific attacks on the USA. Chemical and bio weapons could wipe out entire cities easily.

See why we are positive that liberalism is based in pure ignorance?

We await your evidence with bated breath.

dear evidence of what exactly????

Your claims.

dear are you afraid to say what claims exactly? What does your fear teach us?

You don't know what claims you made in your post? Not all that surprised, actually.