Zone1 We are all NATURAL THEISTS with “homage to reason” unless we lock~in to or against revealed theist-ism vs anti-revelation atheist-ism

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With the coming of mindful self consciousness in a competent human being … We are all NATURAL THEISTS with innate “homage to reason” until/unless we take a locked~in position from the two irrational and unnatural opposites ~ revealed theist-ism vs anti-revelation atheist-ism.

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Where are you? Do you pay homage to reason as much as humanly possible?

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Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, Thomas Paine, Thomas Jefferson and James Madison, to name a few, were not Christians. Those who argue the “Christian nation” do not like to admit this, but many of our founding fathers strongly disliked organized religion. Many of our founding fathers were deists and not Christians. Deism is the religious philosophy that derives the existence and nature of God from reason and personal experience, according to Wikipedia; basically a belief in a God that created the universe, with none of the other stuff. Thomas Paine once wrote, “All national institutions of churches… appear to me no other than human inventions set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.” John Adams famously wrote, “This would be the best of all possible worlds if there were no religion in it.” Jefferson argued, “Question with boldness, even the existence of God; for if there be one, he must more approve of the homage to reason than that of blindfolded fear.” Our founding fathers were not at all Christians and argued against organized religion.
 
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Contumacious Post #242 Apr 21, 2025 …~…. Democrats got their asses handed to them in 2024

whut I say …~… White Republican Party Covenant Christians kicked the Democratic Party’s multicultural multiracial woke ass in 1984. We recovered after one more election cycle.

Reagan was loved for decades by conservatives after he left office. Reagan had horrible policy for the working class just like Trump, but Reagan was not as fucked up morally and lawless as Trump is known to be.

The Democratic Party.s recovery from the weak red Trump map of 2024 will be swift and solid for decades to come.
 
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monotheism is a corruption than for the individual spirit free from servitude and denial.
 
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ding Post #433 Jan 23, 2020 …~… When i say I believe our nation was founded on Judeo Christian values and principles I am not excluding all other values and principles. I am telling you that the overwhelming vast majority of people who lived during colonial times were Christians whose values and principles were informed by their Christian faith.

Their values and principles are too numerous to list but can be simplified as virtue. So I am not excluding any successful behaviors or principles at all. I am telling you that whatever successful behaviors they had were informed by their Christian beliefs.

Whut I say …~… Less than one in five white mostly European persons
who lived during colonial times were Christians who attended church. You say those virtuous settlers to the New World had values and principles that were informed by their Christian faith. You say those who openly professed Jesus Christ to be their personal Lord and Savior had successful values which need be practiced in every generation up to now and into the future to have the best outcome for all God’s human beings,

Why do you think the churched white Christian colonists rejected the “Proclamation Line of 1763” that was put in place by the King of England, their sovereign: in order to preserve the lands for the native human beings and their families who relied on the land, rivers, lakes and forests to sustain lives as part of God‘s creation..

Where was their virtue in pushing human beings westward to satisfy commercial interests?
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Also, why necro a reply from 5 years ago?
 
I'm curious about what the title of the OP means but I'm afraid the OP wouldn't be able to explain it in a concise and logical fashion.

"We are all NATURAL THEISTS with “homage to reason” unless we lock~in to or against revealed theist-ism vs anti-revelation atheist-ism"​

 
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ding Post #66 Feb 11, 2017 …~… It would be against His {God of Abraham who revealed Himself to humanity in ONE Holy Book } nature to void His covenant with us. Just like it would be against His nature to void our free will.

ding Post #8 May 21, 2025. …~… George Washington believed in a moralistic and providential creator. All of the founding fathers did.


whut I ask …~… George Washington was a Freemason, who believed that all religions had equal value.. so our first president, as far as we know was not in a “New Testament Covenant“ with the God of Abraham. Mostly because he did not accept Jesus Christ to be his Lord and Savior. But somehow the rest of the colonists were.

With that in mind, St 🔔 do you believe the God of the One and Only Holy Book in 1763 favored the white European human beings residing to the east of the “Proclamation Line of 1763 ” to be in a nationwide-covenant relationship with Him as HIS Chosen People? Those Chosen white Protestant Christian human beings were divinely directed to convert the human beings residing to the west of the Proclamation Line of 1763“ to the one true religion of Christianity.

By Gatling Gun if need be.
 
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ding Post #66 Feb 11, 2017 …~… It would be against His {God of Abraham who revealed Himself to humanity in ONE Holy Book } nature to void His covenant with us. Just like it would be against His nature to void our free will.

ding Post #8 May 21, 2025. …~… George Washington believed in a moralistic and providential creator. All of the founding fathers did.


whut I ask …~… George Washington was a Freemason, who believed that all religions had equal value.. so our first president, as far as we know was not in a “New Testament Covenant“ with the God of Abraham. Mostly because he did not accept Jesus Christ to be his Lord and Savior. But somehow the rest of the colonists were.

With that in mind, St 🔔 do you believe the God of the One and Only Holy Book in 1763 favored the white European human beings residing to the east of the “Proclamation Line of 1763 ” to be in a nationwide-covenant relationship with Him as HIS Chosen People? Those Chosen white Protestant Christian human beings were divinely directed to convert the human beings residing to the west of the Proclamation Line of 1763“ to the one true religion of Christianity.

By Gatling Gun if need be.
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whut I ask …~…. ,St 🔔, do you believe the God of the One and Only Holy Book in 1763 favored the white European human beings residing to the east of the “Proclamation Line of 1763 ” to be in a nationwide-covenant relationship with Him as HIS Chosen People?
 
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whut I ask …~…. ,St 🔔, do you believe the God of the One and Only Holy Book in 1763 favored the white European human beings residing to the east of the “Proclamation Line of 1763 ” to be in a nationwide-covenant relationship with Him as HIS Chosen People?
Why don't you just say the God of Abraham? I'm not sure what idiotic ideological point you are trying to make but the God of Abraham is the God of everyone. Period.
 
Why don't you just say the God of Abraham?
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whut I ask …~…. ,St 🔔, do you believe the God of Abraham in 1763 favored the white European human beings residing to the east of the “Proclamation Line of 1763 ” to be in a nationwide-covenant relationship with Him as HIS Chosen People?
 
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ding Post #212 Mar 25, 2024 …~… I say man's ability to know right from wrong is innate and logical.

whut I say …~… Then why do you endorse white Republican Party Christian nationalists who have been tearing down the “wall of separation between church and state since 1984.
 
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BackAgain Post #16 Apr 22, 2025 …~… A thread so bad even the headline is gibberish.

whut I ask …~… St Backagain, do you believe the God of the One and Only Holy Book in 1763 favored the white European human beings residing to the east of the “Proclamation Line of 1763 ” to be in a nationwide-covenant relationship with HiM as HIS Chosen People?
 
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OhPleaseJustQuit Post #18 Apr 22, 2025 …~… whutTHEYsay is one of those socks who never made any sense except in their own twisted minds, and is not capable of posting cleanly and concisely

whut I ask …~… St Ohplease, do you believe the God of the One and Only Holy Book in 1763 favored the white European human beings residing to the east of the “Proclamation Line of 1763 ” to be in a nationwide-covenant relationship with HiM as HIS Chosen People?
 
the God of Abraham is the God of everyone. Period.

Do you believe the God of Abraham in 1763 favored the white European human beings residing to the east of the “Proclamation Line of 1763 ” to be in a nationwide-covenant relationship with Him as HIS Chosen People?
I believe the God of Abraham favors anyone who practices successful behaviors. Did some of the people you want to discuss practice successful behaviors? Because if so, he favored them. Was there a contract signed? No.
 
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