Water

[Etymology gaslight]

I haven't heard too much about the politics of water for a while.

When there isn't enough
it's more dire than any war.

I am of the opinion that the only ones complaining about freshwater falling from the sky are Democrats living on the Ocean Beach.

I live in Florida full time now from Vermont, the only politics about water in Vermont is what they call the environmental justice brigade.
There's more than enough fresh water for everyone.

Mostly about septic.
Some of the lakes in Vermont are thick with algae
it comes from the farms.

This is about drinking water,
Lake Mead,
The Delta smelt was more important than the farms that fed the people.

Mulholland got water to Los Angeles.

I remember there was a big battle in the states just above Florida Georgia for freshwater.

But I guess the fact that I haven't heard much about it lately indicates that there's enough and it's clean and it's fresh notwithstanding poisons lead etc.


Energy almost always
Lead the
headlines a political campaign,

The Democrats for some odd reason want to give it away

Lucky us also true of water.

Google won't show it,
What's up with that ?

Has China ever imported water from the great l - Bing

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[Woodznutz]

There's plenty of fresh water falling from the skies. We just have to find ways to keep it from running into the sea before we can make use of it.

 

[Etymology gaslight]

Relegated to environment
that's beautiful.
So
No one will ever see it again

I only alluded
politics four times instead of five.

Posting
on this message board
it's like dating a StairMaster.

Why not just ban my ass
and get it over with.
*
Come back in 5 years.



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It's really too bad.

You may
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Heck of a way to win your debates.


aloha

 

[frigidweirdo]

I haven't heard too much about the politics of water for a while.

When there isn't enough
it's more dire than any war.

I am of the opinion that the only ones complaining about freshwater falling from the sky are Democrats living on the Ocean Beach.

I live in Florida full time now from Vermont, the only politics about water in Vermont is what they call the environmental justice brigade.
There's more than enough fresh water for everyone.

Mostly about septic.
Some of the lakes in Vermont are thick with algae
it comes from the farms.

This is about drinking water,
Lake Mead,
The Delta smelt was more important than the farms that fed the people.

Mulholland got water to Los Angeles.

I remember there was a big battle in the states just above Florida Georgia for freshwater.

But I guess the fact that I haven't heard much about it lately indicates that there's enough and it's clean and it's fresh notwithstanding poisons lead etc.


Energy almost always
Lead the
headlines a political campaign,

The Democrats for some odd reason want to give it away

Lucky us also true of water.

Google won't show it,
What's up with that ?

Has China ever imported water from the great l - Bing

Intelligent search from Bing makes it easier to quickly find what you’re looking for and rewards you.

www.bing.com

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It's a huge issue. How much water is available to use, as humans, without desalinization? How much more can we grow as a world population before it all falls apart?

 

[ReinyDays]

Why are you considering Florida as a desert? ... or Vermont? ... both these locations carry a Köppen Classification of "Humid" with adequate rainfall throughout the year ... where, exactly, in either state does average annual rainfall fall below 5 inches? ... I lived in Iowa a few years and every farmer planted their corn with every expectation of enough rainfall through the summer for a decent crop ... no irrigation needed ... a Köppen Classification of "Humid" with adequate rainfall throughout the year ... It's called "climate" ... and it tells us what weather we should expect ... a "humid" climate means there's adequate rainfall throughout the year; on average ...

The water issues arise in California ... which has a "Mediterranean" climate ... it rarely rains in July and August ... those farmers must irrigate or their crops die ... thus the extensive water storage and delivery systems we find in the Central Valley, and canals and aqueducts from the Colorado River to the Imperial Valley ...

The Delta smelt was more important than the farms that fed the people.

This is completely un-informed ... the fresh water where we find fish is where farmers get their water ... let salt water up into the Delta and the fish die and farmers' crops fail ... the water goes to Los Angeles golf courses and lush green lawns ... and Colorado River water providing for Phoenix's golf courses and expansive city park lawns ...

Farms need the water, not big city flower gardens ... but I understand your confusion ... drinking water is more of a nuisance in Florida, my Lord it rains there !!! ...

 

[Woodznutz]

We can move lots of water by "mile long freight trains" across America. We just need reservoirs to catch and hold the torrential rains that we are experiencing.

 

[davebb]

I love water.

 

[ReinyDays]

We can move lots of water by "mile long freight trains" across America. We just need reservoirs to catch and hold the torrential rains that we are experiencing.

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Except the rail network is full of "two mile long oil trains" ... do we want gasoline or golf courses? ...

 

[Woodznutz]

Except the rail network is full of "two mile long oil trains" ... do we want gasoline or golf courses? ...

We want food and fiber, and golf courses.

 

[ReinyDays]

We want food and fiber, and golf courses.

Golfers should retire to Florida or Hawaii ... where the courses are automagically green ... build all the ones you need and you'll not be taxing the water infrastructure ...

Phoenix is in a desert, and Los Angeles ain't much better ... retire someplace else if you want to golf ... leave the water for farmers ...

 

[Etymology gaslight]

Why are you considering Florida as a desert? ... or Vermont? ... both these locations carry a Köppen Classification of "Humid" with adequate rainfall throughout the year ... where, exactly, in either state does average annual rainfall fall below 5 inches? ... I lived in Iowa a few years and every farmer planted their corn with every expectation of enough rainfall through the summer for a decent crop ... no irrigation needed ... a Köppen Classification of "Humid" with adequate rainfall throughout the year ... It's called "climate" ... and it tells us what weather we should expect ... a "humid" climate means there's adequate rainfall throughout the year; on average ...

The water issues arise in California ... which has a "Mediterranean" climate ... it rarely rains in July and August ... those farmers must irrigate or their crops die ... thus the extensive water storage and delivery systems we find in the Central Valley, and canals and aqueducts from the Colorado River to the Imperial Valley ...

The Delta smelt was more important than the farms that fed the people.

This is completely un-informed ... the fresh water where we find fish is where farmers get their water ... let salt water up into the Delta and the fish die and farmers' crops fail ... the water goes to Los Angeles golf courses and lush green lawns ... and Colorado River water providing for Phoenix's golf courses and expansive city park lawns ...

Farms need the water, not big city flower gardens ... but I understand your confusion ... drinking water is more of a nuisance in Florida, my Lord it rains there !!! ...

 

[Etymology gaslight]

Why are you considering Florida as a desert? ... or Vermont? ... both these locations carry a Köppen Classification of "Humid" with adequate rainfall throughout the year ... where, exactly, in either state does average annual rainfall fall below 5 inches? ... I lived in Iowa a few years and every farmer planted their corn with every expectation of enough rainfall through the summer for a decent crop ... no irrigation needed ... a Köppen Classification of "Humid" with adequate rainfall throughout the year ... It's called "climate" ... and it tells us what weather we should expect ... a "humid" climate means there's adequate rainfall throughout the year; on average ...

The water issues arise in California ... which has a "Mediterranean" climate ... it rarely rains in July and August ... those farmers must irrigate or their crops die ... thus the extensive water storage and delivery systems we find in the Central Valley, and canals and aqueducts from the Colorado River to the Imperial Valley ...

The Delta smelt was more important than the farms that fed the people.

This is completely un-informed ... the fresh water where we find fish is where farmers get their water ... let salt water up into the Delta and the fish die and farmers' crops fail ... the water goes to Los Angeles golf courses and lush green lawns ... and Colorado River water providing for Phoenix's golf courses and expansive city park lawns ...

Farms need the water, not big city flower gardens ... but I understand your confusion ... drinking water is more of a nuisance in Florida, my Lord it rains there !!! ...

I dont know let me think about it.

 

[Concerned American]

We can move lots of water by "mile long freight trains" across America. We just need reservoirs to catch and hold the torrential rains that we are experiencing.

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Moving water from its natural water shed is stupid. LA decimated the Owens Valley with their theft of water and they are doing the same with the CA central valley. They will do the same with the Columbia R if they are allowed. WOTUS has been kicked down the road for decades. If man continues their arrogance in believing they can change the natural order and make things better, nothing will change.

 

[Etymology gaslight]

Moving water from its natural water shed is stupid. LA decimated the Owens Valley with their theft of water and they are doing the same with the CA central valley. They will do the same with the Columbia R if they are allowed. WOTUS has been kicked down the road for decades. If man continues their arrogance in believing they can change the natural order and make things better, nothing will change.

Would you be interested in helping me startup
TheGreenestState.Com.

I stake you 10% of the gross.

 

[Mushroom]

There's plenty of fresh water falling from the skies. We just have to find ways to keep it from running into the sea before we can make use of it.

And getting people out of the overcrowded megaopolis that are often located where there is no water and move more to places where there is water.

 

[Concerned American]

And getting people out of the overcrowded megaopolis that are often located where there is no water and move more to places where there is water.

Most of these cities/water thieves live near the ocean where desalination plants could be constructed.

 

[Mushroom]

We can move lots of water by "mile long freight trains" across America.

-laughs-

-reads that again-

-laughs even harder-

OK, let's do some basic math here.

A "mile long freight train" is around 100 cars. And a liquid freight car has a maximum capacity of 34,500 gallons. That means that a mile long freight train hauling water is moving 34.5 million gallons of water.

Log Angeles uses over 425 million gallons of water per day. That is 12.3 mile long freight trains hauling nothing but water to the Greater Los Angeles Area every single day.

Far better to just do it as its done now, canals and aqueducts. The California Aqueduct alone moves over 650 million gallons a day. That is almost 19 mile long trains worth of water every single day.

 

[Concerned American]

Far better to just do it as its done now, canals and aqueducts. The California Aqueduct alone moves over 650 million gallons a day.

Water stolen from other watersheds that would never reach that area of the state. LA/SD/SoCal in general should desalinate ocean water for their needs. They live in a desert.

 

[Mushroom]

Most of these cities/water thieves live near the ocean where desalination plants could be constructed.

Desalination Plants will never be economical and realistic other than in very limited circumstances. Because such plants when constructed for anything other than very limited uses can devastate the environment.

LA/SD/SoCal in general should desalinate ocean water for their needs.

Sure, if they want to completely destroy the oceans around them.

 

[Concerned American]

Desalination Plants will never be economical and realistic other than in very limited circumstances. Because such plants when constructed for anything other than very limited uses can devastate the environment.



Sure, if they want to completely destroy the oceans around them.

There are many places that use desalinated water as their primary source of domestic water. Yes it is expensive. That is the price you pay for living in a desert. People who live in areas where there is a natural source in their own watershed should not be forced to subsidize desert dwellers.




Desalinated water is the primary source of water in several places, including Kuwait, where it supplies most of the domestic water needs, and the Maldives, where many islands rely on desalination for fresh water. Additionally, cities like Antofagasta in Chile fully depend on desalinated water for their supply. Wikipedia WorldAtlas

Countries Relying on Desalinated Water​

Desalination is crucial in regions with limited freshwater resources. Here are some notable places where desalinated water serves as the primary source of water:

Middle Eastern Countries​

Country	Details
Saudi Arabia	Produces about 50% of its drinking water from desalination, with 27 plants along its coast.
United Arab Emirates	Heavily invests in desalination; it is the main source of fresh water due to scarce resources.
Kuwait	First country to establish large-scale desalination in 1951; relies on it for all domestic water needs.
Qatar	Desalination is essential for meeting the country's water demands.
Bahrain	Depends on desalination for most of its fresh water supply.

Other Regions​

Country	Details
Maldives	Many islands rely on desalination as their primary water source.
Chile	Cities like Antofagasta and Caldera are fully supplied by desalination, mainly for mining.
Singapore	Plans to meet 30% of its water needs through desalination by 2060.

Desalination is increasingly vital in these areas due to the scarcity of natural freshwater sources.
WorldAtlas Wikipedia