WATCH: Trump denies Don Jr met with ‘Russian government lawyer’ — but son’s emails say otherwise

[tinydancer]

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lol.......because Trump is right asshole...........she has no connection to the Russian govt. duh

If you believe anything Trumpsays you might as well believe one of Putin's people too.
You crack me up.

he's stating what the facts are s0n..........in the end, the fakery comes out in these pages. We see progressives pwn themselves every day in here with fake stuff.....like Yates/Comey/Flynn/Kushner etc...........all fake stuff bought only by the unicorn chasers.

Fake stuff? Hahaha

Flynn met with Russians as part of the transition team. Didn't lie.

Sessions met with Russians as part of his duties. Didn't lie.

Kushner met with Russians as part of the transition team. Didn't lie.

Donald Trump Jr. wanted to meet with a government official but she wasn't Kremlin linked so in effect he didn't lie either. Seems she was definitely linked to Fusion GPS and the Democrat Party.

Why did they all NOT DISCLOSE the meetings?
Not until the media reported it did they admit it.
You're one naive mfer.

Kushner and Manafort did. Donald Jr. isn't part of the government so he was never required to disclose the meeting.

 

[Reasonable]

Can't wait to watch the Trump whores reaction whenBob Mueller hands out the indictments on so many in the Trump administration.
Kushner is facing 5 years right now fornot disclosing his meeting with Russians.
The Reagan Ad had the largest number of indictments and convictions in american history.
Trump and his band of criminals will make that record look like small stuff.

 

[Reasonable]

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If you believe anything Trumpsays you might as well believe one of Putin's people too.
You crack me up.

he's stating what the facts are s0n..........in the end, the fakery comes out in these pages. We see progressives pwn themselves every day in here with fake stuff.....like Yates/Comey/Flynn/Kushner etc...........all fake stuff bought only by the unicorn chasers.

Fake stuff? Hahaha

Flynn met with Russians as part of the transition team. Didn't lie.

Sessions met with Russians as part of his duties. Didn't lie.

Kushner met with Russians as part of the transition team. Didn't lie.

Donald Trump Jr. wanted to meet with a government official but she wasn't Kremlin linked so in effect he didn't lie either. Seems she was definitely linked to Fusion GPS and the Democrat Party.

Why did they all NOT DISCLOSE the meetings?
Not until the media reported it did they admit it.
You're one naive mfer.

Kushner and Manafort did. Donald Jr. isn't part of the government so he was never required to disclose the meeting.

When a foreign government ( or anyone) contacts you for a meeting about dirt on a political opponent the only response is nyet.
The next step is to alert the FBI.
Like Gore did when someone contracted him about dirt onBush.
Jr: I love it.
Haha... they're all sofucked and you know it.
Well Bob Mueller does.

 

[AntonToo]

Sorry, Junior, but listen to the russian attorney herself. She has said in every interview that she has no ties to the russian government. Quit picking and choosing whatever material fits your own crooked smear agenda.

The email Trump received said she was a representative of the Russian government and thats exactly why he went to meet with her.

Wrong again. You've been lied to. A talent agent he knew from the past told him this lady wanted to meet to talk with him. That she was an attorney from Russia who had some dirt on Hillary he might want to know about! He went just to see what she might have to say not knowing WHAT she might say, because there had been so many scandals about Hillary he wondered if she might have something more on them. Turns out she only wanted to talk about Putin's banning adoptions from Russia into the USA. Later in another thread I will write, I will tell you exactly why nothing about this is improper or illegal.

You say that, but here is REALITY of what was in the email exachange:

Here is the letter Trump Jr. read and responded to:

Emin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting.

The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.

This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.

What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?

I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.


How the **** are you going to try to frame this as if it wasn't 100% clear to Jr. that what he is seeking is info from Russian government.

Further, how the hell do you know that what the meeting "turned out" to be about? Because people that already got caught lying about this meeting, are now saying it wasn't about much?

Even the D / Fusion plant said it was about adoptions. And it still isn't criminal. And it sure as hell isn't treason. Get a grip. Try decaff.

You mean the Russian lawyer? What the **** makes her credible? Your baseless bullshit that she was somehow working for Democrats?

Can't make this comedy up.

 

[nat4900]

rumbelben I'm sorry to tell you this but Trump is right. Nothing we know suggests the lawyer was affiliated with Russia.

Just out of curiosity, how would you interpret this email from Goldstone to Donnie-baby AND the "fact" that "nothing we know suggests the lawyer was affiliated with Russia".............................???............Let's hear your answer.....

On Jun 7, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Rob Goldstone wrote:

Don
Hope all is well
Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and THe Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday.

I believe you are aware of the meeting - and so wondered if 3pm or later on Thursday works for you?

I assume it would be at your office.

 

[tinydancer]

Alan Dershowitz and Jonathan Turley to name a couple of very prominent lawyers who don't believe in spin or fairy tales. Cripes the left wing whackos are trying to turn contact with any Russian into treason.

And that's just flat out bullshit and they look like fools.

Legally speaking I don't know what it is. What I do know is that it is highly unethical. Not to mention dangerous. If the meeting would provide what the e-mails promise. It would mean that the president of the United States would be indebted to a nation that is not America's friend. Even more it would create a situation where he would even be susceptible to blackmail. Not for nothing Trump's attitude towards Putin strongly suggests this did happen

Post #24.

Now there is absolute proof that the DNC and the Clinton campaign absolutely worked a smear campaign against Trump and associates with the Ukraine.

Still feel the same way now?

I'm sorry tiny can you please be clearer in the point your making, I can't make heads or tails out of it.

I put the link in Post #24 for you. My comment deals with your feelings that no foreign nation should be involved in any other nations electoral campaigns and electoral process.

And by the way I agree with you on that. We western nations do it all the time though and I'm uncomfortable with that as well. Then I pointed out that the Ukrainian government and Ukrainian businessmen colluded with the DNC and the Clinton campaign to run a smear campaign about Trump and his associates.

They were successful in forcing the resignation of Paul Manafort because they spread lies about Trump's campaign manager. That's why I asked do you still feel the same way when the D's have done it?

ETA:

Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.


A Ukrainian-American operative who was consulting for the Democratic National Committee met with top officials in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump, top campaign aide Paul Manafort and Russia, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation.

The Ukrainian efforts had an impact in the race, helping to force Manafort’s resignation and advancing the narrative that Trump’s campaign was deeply connected to Ukraine’s foe to the east, Russia.

Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire

Lastly even if it would be exactly the same it would still be wrong. Two wrongs don't make a right.

So yes I still feel the same way.

With you all the way on this. I just hope after we get thru all this we really take a look at what has happened world wide with entities tampering with elections and see where we can tighten our process and lock it down firmly so that we never have to experience this again.

The NSA said that no voting was affected state by state but these hackers are insanely good and even though it didn't happen in 2016 you bet someone out there is working on something for 2018 and 2020.

And one problem I hope to see resolved before the next campaigns is the media smartening up and taking more responsibility to research and vette stories better. A lot of talent in the media has seriously been damaged by their very own efforts to be the FIRST with the breaking story in this 24/7 news cycle.

Bi partisan here. Both left and right media have had to issue far too many corrections in embarrassment. Those three gentlemen that had to resign from CNN were long term excellent journalists. Cripes because they wanted to rush one story they didn't even follow the standard guidelines of their company and they lost their careers and their reputations.

That one really shocked me because these were seasoned journalists who risked it all just for one story. So I hope that when we get over this season and I do beleive we will that the media can get their act together and give citizens the straight goods. Get back to real news again and not spin.

Good grief I hope we get there soon. Well I can dream.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

It doesn't get any more bizarre than this:

WATCH: Trump denies Don Jr met with ‘Russian government lawyer’ — but son’s emails say otherwise

What's bizarre is that Travis Gettys is the only one claiming it was a Russian Government Lawyer.

 

[AntonToo]

It doesn't get any more bizarre than this:

WATCH: Trump denies Don Jr met with ‘Russian government lawyer’ — but son’s emails say otherwise

What's bizarre is that Travis Gettys is the only one claiming it was a Russian Government Lawyer.

But the inconvenient facts:

On Jun 7, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Rob Goldstone wrote:

Don
Hope all is well
Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and THe Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday.

 

[tinydancer]

rumbelben I'm sorry to tell you this but Trump is right. Nothing we know suggests the lawyer was affiliated with Russia.

Just out of curiosity, how would you interpret this email from Goldstone to Donnie-baby AND the "fact" that "nothing we know suggests the lawyer was affiliated with Russia".............................???............Let's hear your answer.....

On Jun 7, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Rob Goldstone wrote:

Don
Hope all is well
Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and THe Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday.

I believe you are aware of the meeting - and so wondered if 3pm or later on Thursday works for you?

I assume it would be at your office.

It was a lie or Goldstone was misled himself but she has no connection to the Kremlin or to the government in Russia at all. Her history is out there.

 

[AntonToo]

rumbelben I'm sorry to tell you this but Trump is right. Nothing we know suggests the lawyer was affiliated with Russia.

Just out of curiosity, how would you interpret this email from Goldstone to Donnie-baby AND the "fact" that "nothing we know suggests the lawyer was affiliated with Russia".............................???............Let's hear your answer.....

On Jun 7, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Rob Goldstone wrote:

Don
Hope all is well
Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and THe Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday.

I believe you are aware of the meeting - and so wondered if 3pm or later on Thursday works for you?

I assume it would be at your office.

It was a lie or Goldstone was misled himself but she has no connection to the Kremlin or to the government in Russia at all. Her history is out there.

OR he wasn't. Either way, Don Jr. was going in for some good ol' Kremlin intelligence.

 

[tinydancer]

It doesn't get any more bizarre than this:

WATCH: Trump denies Don Jr met with ‘Russian government lawyer’ — but son’s emails say otherwise

What's bizarre is that Travis Gettys is the only one claiming it was a Russian Government Lawyer.

But the inconvenient facts:

On Jun 7, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Rob Goldstone wrote:

Don
Hope all is well
Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and THe Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday.

It's not criminal. I've already quoted Alan Dershowitz and Jonathan Turley.

 

[tinydancer]

rumbelben I'm sorry to tell you this but Trump is right. Nothing we know suggests the lawyer was affiliated with Russia.

Just out of curiosity, how would you interpret this email from Goldstone to Donnie-baby AND the "fact" that "nothing we know suggests the lawyer was affiliated with Russia".............................???............Let's hear your answer.....

On Jun 7, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Rob Goldstone wrote:

Don
Hope all is well
Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and THe Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday.

I believe you are aware of the meeting - and so wondered if 3pm or later on Thursday works for you?

I assume it would be at your office.

It was a lie or Goldstone was misled himself but she has no connection to the Kremlin or to the government in Russia at all. Her history is out there.

OR he wasn't. Either way, Don Jr. was going in for some good ol' Kremlin intelligence.

So?

 

[forkup]

rumbelben I'm sorry to tell you this but Trump is right. Nothing we know suggests the lawyer was affiliated with Russia.

Just out of curiosity, how would you interpret this email from Goldstone to Donnie-baby AND the "fact" that "nothing we know suggests the lawyer was affiliated with Russia".............................???............Let's hear your answer.....

On Jun 7, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Rob Goldstone wrote:

Don
Hope all is well
Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and THe Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday.

I believe you are aware of the meeting - and so wondered if 3pm or later on Thursday works for you?

I assume it would be at your office.

Nat as I explained to Brumble. The e-mail chain referred to the Crown prosecutor for Russia. No such position exist, so claiming that the E-mail chain provides proof of anything but Don's willingness to let Russia compromise him is just false. I'm just as left wing as you, I refuse however to let go of rational thinking because it fits my ideology. I think critically and that means I examine myself too. There is plenty of stuff wrong with this situation, I don't think I need to invent stuff.

 

[tinydancer]

This explains it.

The Code of Federal Regulations makes the law immunizing Trump Jr.’s actions precisely clear: any foreign national individual may volunteer personal services to a federal candidate or federal political committee without making a contribution.

The law provides this volunteer “exemption” as long as the individual performing the service is not compensated by anyone on the campaign. See 11 CFR 100.74.

For example, as the Federal Election Commission advises all, “an individual can provide volunteer services to a candidate or party without considering the value of those service a contribution to the candidate or party.”

Section 30121 of Title 52 does not apply to voluntary activity or services.

The thing “of value” must be actual money, or its transferable equivalent, not a volunteer of services or information.

Otherwise, if volunteering information in coordination with a campaign constituted donations, everyone from John Harwood to Chuck Todd (and maybe all of CNN) made millions in donations to the Hillary campaign."

Why Donald Trump Jr. is Innocent. Period.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

It doesn't get any more bizarre than this:

WATCH: Trump denies Don Jr met with ‘Russian government lawyer’ — but son’s emails say otherwise

What's bizarre is that Travis Gettys is the only one claiming it was a Russian Government Lawyer.

But the inconvenient facts:

On Jun 7, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Rob Goldstone wrote:

Don
Hope all is well
Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and THe Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday.

Gotta link?

 

[nat4900]

It was a lie or Goldstone was misled himself but she has no connection to the Kremlin or to the government in Russia at all. Her history is out there.

LOL....(lame)

 

[nat4900]

It's not criminal. I've already quoted Alan Dershowitz and Jonathan Turley.

I'll wait for Mueller's interpretation.

 

[Reasonable]

Trump: Anyone would have taken that meeting.
Most people know the law and no honest person would have taken that meeting.
There's the rub. DT doesn't have an honest bone in his body. Never has. It's his MO.
Deplorables: That's why we voted for him. He's just like us.

 

[tinydancer]

It's not criminal. I've already quoted Alan Dershowitz and Jonathan Turley.

I'll wait for Mueller's interpretation.

I put up the statute that covers him.

 

[AntonToo]

rumbelben I'm sorry to tell you this but Trump is right. Nothing we know suggests the lawyer was affiliated with Russia.

Just out of curiosity, how would you interpret this email from Goldstone to Donnie-baby AND the "fact" that "nothing we know suggests the lawyer was affiliated with Russia".............................???............Let's hear your answer.....

On Jun 7, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Rob Goldstone wrote:

Don
Hope all is well
Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and THe Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday.

I believe you are aware of the meeting - and so wondered if 3pm or later on Thursday works for you?

I assume it would be at your office.

It was a lie or Goldstone was misled himself but she has no connection to the Kremlin or to the government in Russia at all. Her history is out there.

OR he wasn't. Either way, Don Jr. was going in for some good ol' Kremlin intelligence.

So?

So he perhaps wasn't lying and she was acting as an intermediary between Kremlin and Trump's campaign.

If what was discussed were hacked emails then Don Jr., Paul Manfort, and Kushner are in on the conspiracy to commit wire fraud.

But even it that wasn't the case, even if the Russian lawyer misled Jr about representing Kremlin's interests, the INTENT to solicit intelligence from adversarial country is in itself damning. It also happens to be enough to satisfy statutes on this.